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kiat
Hi everyone.
I removed AG on Hami 8" by rag method. I left it to be soaked for 7 hrs. Afterwards I could peel up AG so easy. But I don't know it's only AG or PVA comes with. I use squeegee to take away some glues from LCD, but it''s difficult to take it. any recomment? (somes pics. )
Kiat
Rox
do you see the image on the hami yet?

is it gray the layer you removed?
kiat
QUOTE (Rox @ Jan 20 2006, 04:47 PM) *
do you see the image on the hami yet?

is it gray the layer you removed?


I haven't seen the imege yet. Because I have read a thead someone said...have to leave LCD to dry for 24 hrs. befroe power on after the AG was removed. But I have seen the image with the AG on my PJ before.
Yes, it's gray layer. I took some pics. but I don't know how to post on thhis forums. Thank you so much, Rox for quick reply. What is it going on if I power it on immedtily after removed the AG? If anything else comes with the gray layer or it's not AG what can I do?
Regards
Kiat
Rox
I think you have removed the polarizer+antiglare film

i would say there wont be an image anymore until you place a new polarizer....

please do not scare yet, let us know if there is an image or not after it gets dry.
Whorse
antiglare film is clear and white, polarizer/PVA is brown (at least for me) and very stiff compared to AG.
kiat
QUOTE (Whorse @ Jan 21 2006, 02:30 AM) *
antiglare film is clear and white, polarizer/PVA is brown (at least for me) and very stiff compared to AG.


I can't wait for 24 hrs. so I try to power LCD on today. You're right, Rox. No image at alll. My polarizer came with AG 100%. So I needs new polarizer replacement. What do you recoment me? How do I attach new polarizer wiht LCD and where is polarizer replacement to buy? Thank you so much Rox, Whorse for your respone. I got more knowlage.
Regards.
Kiat. sad.gif
Rox
mmm, Iīm sorry about that new from you... :S

well, you have some solutions;

1)try restoring the polarizer layer from the film you removed. You need to remove the antiglare once more... but this time propperly biggrin.gif

2)buy new polarizer from any of the supliers such as 3dlens

3)buy a photographic polarizer (cheap) and place it on the triplet when the antiglare removed side is facing the triplet

good luck
kiat
Good morning !
First of all, Thank you so much for your respones, Rox. You'er very helpfull.
1.) Polarizer layer damaged when I used paint stripper to remove AG once more. tongue.gif
2.) Which one is the best ?( with adhesive or non-adhesive)What is specs. your suggestion?
3.) How is the quality of image on sgreen? If I do this.

I already have another LL standard lens kit and HQI 250 watt set. I was searching to fine 15" LCD monitor to build the second PJ. Are there any LCD with out AG? or what type or brand of LCD is easy to remove AG? ( That Hami, I had used it in my car for a year before I took it out to build PJ.)
Thanks again. smile.gif
Kiat.
Rox
1)bad luck

2)I donīt know about real world comparisons but it looks like the glue on the adhesive ones is killing the efficiency of the polarizer (better quality if no adhesive one is used).

3)photographic polarizer filters are very good quality, just find a big enough to cover your triplet area. (do not by a circulary polarized filter, you need a linear polarized one).
Mark
QUOTE (Rox @ Jan 22 2006, 05:40 AM) *
3)photographic polarizer filters are very good quality, just find a big enough to cover your triplet area. (do not by a circulary polarized filter, you need a linear polarized one).
You want a non adhesive polarizer film. Photographic polarizers are not good enough. They are too inneficient.

The best polarizer film in the world that is available to us right now is the one from polarization.com. The Super High Contrast model. There is another thread in this forum dedicated to it.
Rox
I though they were better... I bought two last year for a 3D slide projector system I did... It looked nice.

I havenīt had luck with photographic polarizer filters spec on google... do you mind me to show some specs to check they arenīt as good as I thought Mark?

(do not wanna start another never ending Rox's stupid disccusions with you, just curiosity biggrin.gif)
Mark
QUOTE (Rox @ Jan 22 2006, 02:22 PM) *
I havenīt had luck with photographic polarizer filters spec on google... do you mind me to show some specs to check they arenīt as good as I thought Mark?
I have a bunch of camera polarizers and a bunch of film polarizers. The camera polarizers that I have all seem to have been designed to have as high a transmittance as possible, while sacrificing extinction. This is fine for photography because all they are used for is to reduce glare and UV, something that is usually less intense than the overal brightness of the scene. It seems a film polarizer (for LCD's) is designed to have as high an extinction as possible at the expense of brightness.

At least this is what I have found. The photographic polarizers look to have an extinction of no more than 99%.

I can't find any numbers on the extinction, but FWIW this is one of the topics early on in the Lumens Theory thread.
kiat
I have purchased super high contrast polarizer from polarization.com and waiting for. I couldn't fine the source of photographic polar to buy. I will make the comparision of them if I get both. This is a new knowlage for me. smile.gif
Kiat.
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