Discuss the Haas style..

There so many good things that have happened here at Lumenlab including the latest 'AG removal(hats off to all those that pioneered this "sweet' discovery), Hass style box is one of them- Hassman, uda man! I mean, this thing is not only a well thought out-functional design but also is soooo sexy looking that it's become "wife-acceptable" in my living room - I'm in the process of painting my Hass style box- will be starting my plog soon.

My hats off to Haas_man for the design and the permission to make these available for sale. it deffinetly gets the Wife approval factor, Mine would never let me hang that "box" ( PJ1 ) but the Haas is OK.

The design is very awsome, but i'm wondering how much i would need to increase the dimensions of it for a 17 inch lcd with 3rdlens fresnals and standard triplet, any help would be appreciated. Anyway Haa_man has done a fantastic job with the design.

Thanks!

Kuba

Haas man, when you read this, please don't be offended that others are tweaking your design. We are just taking the coolest case and trying to make it slightly better. Think of this exercise as flattery.

So has anyone strayed from the standard dimensions, and created a smaller version? Larger version? Did you compute a formula for going from LCD/lamp/triplet dimensions to case dimensions? This could be a cool program to have.

I am planning on trying to get it slightly shorter, although a bit fatter to accommodate the new and improved longer bulbs. That or go with a 45DEG upward mount. Still need to experiment more.

Haas improvement ideas.

Perhaps a Haas design where instead of removing the top/bottom, it is cut in half around the LCD sled. opening it like a plastic egg and removing the sled should give ideal access to the internal components, with the advantage of shaving around an inch off of the sides as the retaining dado would no longer be required. The dowels and brass dowel hardware could be skipped too with this design. This would reduce the complexity of the design and require less advanced routing techniques. This method would also allow for the triplet half to be more pyramid shaped, or some sweet shape between current and pyramid.

So, if the case is made of 3 parts, the light sled (using a 5"x3/4 frame) and the front and back of the Hass case. It could be extended slightly, revealing some of the sled, to handle focusing and light adjustments?

The LCD sled has a complicated cut on the dowels. I haven't worked out a safe, reliable, repeatable way to cut dado's the length of the dowels. I am thinking replacing this part with a 3/4 board with dado's cut into it to wrap all 4 sides of the LCD/fresnel/lexan/keystone lens.

Perhaps hollowing out the sides a bit to a 1/4" thickness for the sled might allow for savings on width.

Can the key stoning mechanism be improved in such a way as to allow for a shorter case?

The heat shield might be improvable if it say were 1/4 inch thick with air channels through it, so air could come in from inside the case, and through the metal shield, then directly out of the projector. To better explain, Imagine a wall when it is framed with 2x4's. Now put drywall on it, and cut off the top and bottom. This would leave multiple channels for air to flow through. Now imagine it in the thin sheet metal we already use. Maybe someone will come up with a good design that we could get out sourced. I think all projector designs could benefit from active heat shield technology.

If the fans could be relocated from the rear, that would provide an excellent place to put the ballast. It could even be recessed into the wood or the sides could be extended to obscure it.

Anyhow, I am just spit-balling...

Brain, can you add a "Woodworking techniques for projector makers" in an appropriate place? This would be a good place to document how to fabricate various parts. It will help those who want to make the part, but have no idea how to do it. It would encourage safety. As wood workers know, the shop is full of machines that want to eat fingers. They will fire pieces of wood through windows in an effort to distract you so they can maybe get a piece of you. I have seen my router do this many times...

Check it out

I'm just wondering is it a problem when the length is 5 cm/1.97 inch shorter. Normally it should be 30 inch, now it is 27.24. I'm asking this because I already cut the wood, so it would be a pain in the ass if I have to do it again hehe.

Another thing, Is it possible to put a norpro bowl on the place of the fan and install the fan somewhere else?

Thnx in advance

you should be fine with your length, just make the field fresnel adjustable. your norpro could be mounted there and your fan elsewhere. the design is flexible just lay out your parts first to see how it all fits. you could always off center the fan and put it to one side.

just finished my hass inspired box.

looks as well as it works and that is great.

i was wondering however, my pj has a huge amount of light leakage throught the air inlet. maybe i made the slot to big. what results have all of you had?

Hi there!
Nice design!
I have a question for you, is it possible to make the Haas design with the pro lenses and a 17" LCD? Would you (Haas) make the drawings?

I'm going to have to ditto that one. I have a 17" monitor and pro fresnels, and i really want to do the Haas projector design, but I'd like to see updated plans from the master himself.

I have had a few requests for this style in a pro set up, I am going to give it a shot, stay tuned. I have the pro lens set up on the way so I can test it out with this design. I also have a vertical design for the pro set up that combines the best of a few designs. curved front, folded. soon to be shown on my thread in the trading post.

will you be selling the plans or will they be free, or will you just be building the projectors and selling them?


let me know

if I draw up some plans they are free, I will be selling the enclosures. basically I am going to strech it out to fit the focal lengths of the optics.

if you need my pro lens, let me know, my basement is still not finished and I have no current need for the projector. I could mail you my pro kit with the fresnels if you would like, heck I could mail you my monitor also if it helped (samsung 712n). this would help you get the sizing down, then you could just send it back to me when you have it complete. plus I am planning on getting on your list in the near future of wanting a 17 inch hass kit.

TESCORP

I would be interested in buying 2 of the 17" pro set ups when you start selling them if you could email me. skimaniaz@gmail.com

Thanks Alot!!

OK then, I have decided that I will attempt to re-demension the Haas for the Pro Fresnels. I will eventually start a PLOG and post the details in it, but I have so much other stuff going on right now that it's going to take me a while.

My main idea is to just enlarge the basic Haas design to make it large enough for the Pro fresnels (the lens carrier will have to be bigger) and work everything around that. For instance, i think I have an idea on how to use them without cutting them.

At any rate, don't expect anything really coherent for a while. I have NO idea what's going on right now, but I do know that I'm busy!




- Al

Gents,

I'm looking for a CAD file of a HASS shaped enclosure, but for a 17" LCD and the new PRO lenses. All I need is the dims for the side panels and width of the box.

CAN I just take the HASS 15" Dims and add two inches to each dimension??

For example instead of 18 x 18 x 24 would my box be 20 x 20 x 26??? Is it longer for the new PRO triplet???

I'm thinking a doing a MACHINED enclosure, alum plates for side and front/rear then stainless for the top and bottom. perhaps some finning to help dissipate heat???

HELP!!!

Here is the Pro Haas I am working on. 40" in length, 15" I.D. this is for a 17" panel. focus can be adjusted from 550mm to 600mm.

WOW! Absolutly gorgeous!

I agree - that's gorgeous! I may have to copy your focus mechanism

- Al

STUNNING is the word I'd use.

HOW MUCH AND WHEN CAN I HAVE ONE???

PLEASE!!!!

I've finally got my pro lenses after more that a year of waiting (see my join date!) and now having this beautiful box would save me from having to make one.

The thing I like best about that focusing mechanism is that it would be really easy to put a linear actuator on it.You could have motorized remote control focusing.That would be so sweet.

Hi TESCORP,
How is the Pro Hass coming along? Are there any drawings? Thanks.
Stryder_X

TESCORP doesnt use a cnc to make these so he probably doesnt have any drawings. He makes them the old school way, with a router and a steady hand.

Hi Foamcows,
Do you know the dimensions of the 17" Pro hass? Someone above mentioned adding 2 inches to each dimension but was still concerned about the pro lens. I looked around but I have not found any tried and tested measurements.
Thanks
Stryder_X

the measurements are the same as the old varifocal kit. I can try to measure my box tonight, the pro hass will have to be about the same as mine.

Hello..I am new to the world of DIY PJ. Can someone tell me where can I find the measurement for the 17 inch pro haas design? Also, are there any other designs for the 17 inch lcd PJ? Pls let me know

can someone go thru the haas design and change the decmals to fractinal inches.

i dont under stand half of it..

http://ac3l.com/dec2frac.htm

thanks

1 more question, does anyone know the circumfrence, or the radius for that matter, of the top and bottem of the projector, it would help so much so i can just make a string and pencil to draw it

thanks

The radius is 46.250"

quick question, and i know this is probably dumb.... but what measurements are the plans in the pinned post done in. it reads like a mixture of imperial and metric and it's kinda confusing.

If you have Google Sketchup grab This, it's a sketchup version of the hassman I made today while being bored at work. it has no insides atm... but i plan to do those later.

Is that drawer mechanism used for focusing or something? It looks cool, could it be adapted to go onto the original design?

Hello there..
This is my first post in the LL forums..
I would like to say -as an artist- that the Haasman style is a brilliant peace of work .. and by browsing the LL forums, I can see that it became international .. so, thank you Haas man for a great design.

I'll buy you a beer for the plans to that 17" haas. This is exaclty the excuse I need for my wife to let me get new tools.

that's crazy, I just started playing with Sketchup Google today, and the first thing I thought of was,
haas projector, I'm glad someone beat me to it, now I don't have to do it

Just looking at the 2d plans for the Hass style case. Looks quite do-able - I'm fortunate to work somewhere with a wood workshop so can borrow some build time there! Can someone explain this to me:

On the plans, the two dowels at the rear of the case have been slotted along their lengths to hold something, but I can't figure out what! The protective glass, two frensel lenses and LCD panel are all housed in the holder in the middle of the box.

Also people seem to be favouring a gravity 'suspended' frensel at the front of the machine rather than the frame on the Haas plans, which appears to pivot around the centrepoint? For example in TESCORP's designs.

Thanks in advance
Rich

The slots in the rear dowels were there to support the reflector. Here is a link to the original PLOG.. It has been done many other ways since and wouldn't work with the pro reflector, since it is much smaller than the Ikea bowls.

Anyone have the dimensions for the 17" Haas? I see someone mentioned the length at 40" and the inner width at 15" is everything else the same?

I made an assembly of the haas design for the pro lens setup using SolidWorks. If anyone wants these files just let me know.

Wow! Nice 3D Drawing.... That must have taken a while to make.

I have a question though, Is the box drawn to scale, or it is it double scale? when I measured the length, it measured over 7 feet long.

It still looks nice, and using X-ray shows the details nicely.

Fulcrum

No cursing. That's bad.

has any one tried making one of lexan or other plastic? I think the haas would look sweet in that glassy black you get from plastic. Im putting together a psone pj rite now and thinking about mini haas in plastic.

I dont remember who made an enclosure from plastic lexan, but it has been done although not in the Haas style. I dont see why it couldnt be done as long as the material can withstand the heat. proper cooling and shielding would be a must.

Made from Acrylic with acrylic liquid weld, works good, this one was made a long time ago.

http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?s...&hl=acrylic

Joe

When do you think you will have plans available for the 15.4" version in metric, also if you are selling kits for them (Wood, screws, plans and accessories) will you ship them to Australia?

Thanks

Ubermal