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brainlock
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 22 2006, 02:39 PM) *
Always been a StarCraft fan - nuthin' else.

Never enjoyed all the shoot-em-up killer-zombie games.

My coworker just brought in Halo for me to try.

Uh-oh. huh.gif I see late nights in my future. biggrin.gif

This is REAL incentive for getting my projector done. wink.gif

i made my roommate in college puke from playing wolfenstein too fast.
shoot-em-ups and driving games (rally)... i live for them.

i wish somebody would make a decent asteroids for xbox. smile.gif
Remdaddy
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 22 2006, 02:39 PM) *
Always been a StarCraft fan - nuthin' else.

Never enjoyed all the shoot-em-up killer-zombie games.

My coworker just brought in Halo for me to try.

Uh-oh. huh.gif I see late nights in my future. biggrin.gif

This is REAL incentive for getting my projector done. wink.gif


Oh Yes...Halo on the PJ is quite an experience. biggrin.gif

I'm a little partial to the WWII First person shooters myself.
MOH, COD, BIA.... I just can't resist when a new one comes out.
cool.gif
Durachko
QUOTE (Remdaddy @ Aug 22 2006, 03:14 PM) *
I'm a little partial to the WWII First person shooters myself.
MOH, COD, BIA.... I just can't resist when a new one comes out. cool.gif
I strongly suspect it's just that I've adamantly resisted even LOOKING at any of these games up to this point. I know I have a "problem" so avoid temptation.
samuraijack
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 22 2006, 03:27 PM) *
I strongly suspect it's just that I've adamantly resisted even LOOKING at any of these games up to this point. I know I have a "problem" so avoid temptation.


Mine is currently Dungeon Siege II with the expansion pack...
TESCORP
Hey we missed you but had lots of fun in your thread! You are going to love playing halo on a big screen, I like the driving games too! I even found a disc with Asteroids, tempest, Pac man. even has pong! so lets get that pj built around that nice light gate already, the masses are waiting to pounce on you like one of those animals your always chasing! Hey what did you think about using the keyhole slots in the sides with pan head screws in the end pieces to latch into? would hide the screws completely and you could lift off the sides anytime with out tools. you would need to be precise with the cuts though.
Durachko
Sorry I kinda ignored you TES - I was overloaded!!! The way I'm designing my enclosure the T-slots wouldn't work because I'll have no lateral movement (vertical actually) of the panels in question. I do have a T-bit for my router and use that trick for other things though. It's a very good idea.
elken2004
nah ya only overloaded when you have three kids running around 18.9 projects for better half to do,, and the extras like wrestling with grizzilies and black snakes

work is a holiday compared...

then there is 4.7865 mins left for love projects... and keep ya mind above gutter too heheheh
Remdaddy
QUOTE (elken2004 @ Aug 23 2006, 10:03 AM) *
then there is 4.7865 mins left for love projects... and keep ya mind above gutter too heheheh


now that is an interesting line ohmy.gif

on the note of time..I leave you with remy's 2nd law of time

"if one takes on a cool project for himself. Then everyone else's projects will creep in on your time so as not allow you to finish it!!!" :angry: :angry:
elken2004
Damm Remmy,, that6 cat of yours is really disturbing,,, keeps pacing
Durachko
Thanks to Remdaddy I got these:

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A little pricey but almost everything is.

What I really like about them is one can drill a single hole after carefully aligning the boards to be fastened and the drilling is done. cool.gif

Plus, they're low profile and use an allen key so I can use my cordless screwdriver and shouldn't slip out of the fastener.

Downside is the head is almost 3/4" in diameter so it dosn't allow for much slop with a 3/4" joint like I'm doing. It's just 1/16" under 3/4".

Notice the insert has an allen head recess as well for installing it into the wood. Could be a little dicey inserting into the plywood so I'll do a dry run on scrap.

Should be just fine though. I like 'em. smile.gif

BTW: They're from Lowe's and made by Hillman. 1/4x20 threads on the bolt. The bolts are available unshouldered as well and in silver and brass in a variety of lengths. Funny thing - they're all labelled in metric lengths (millimeters) but SAE threads. Talk about mix-'n-match!!! laugh.gif
elken2004
welll dazzzlers typical,,, the americans take a simple idea,, like our simple twist and complicate it,,, KIS''S
Durachko
Well:
  1. Wood threads aren't really all that good for many assemble/disassemble cycles.
  2. I am going into plywood end grain - ewwwwww.
  3. I've always been under the impression that we're supposed to dump as much money and complexity into these damn DIY Projectors as is humanly possible.
  4. It's still a fairly simple twist. (Twist drill, twist insert into twist-drilled hole, twist bolt into twisted insert which was twisted into twist-drilled hole. Wow. This plog is really twisted.)
Hee, hee, heeeeee . . . ism huh.gif
Remdaddy
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 23 2006, 10:53 AM) *
Downside is the head is almost 3/4" in diameter so it dosn't allow for much slop with a 3/4" joint like I'm doing. It's just 1/16" under 3/4".

Notice the insert has an allen head recess as well for installing it into the wood. Could be a little dicey inserting into the plywood so I'll do a dry run on scrap.


Good Show Mr. D!! I found they work real good for me. I put a dab of wood glue in the hole and then put the insert in. Lubes it up a little and if the ply wants to split a little..slap a clamp on there and all is good. I did have to go find a special sized bit (not sure on the size its listed on the back of the insert package) its not a standard size you find in most bit sets-- or at least my 3 sets did not have that size, but that ain't saying much.

As to the head size you could take them down a little with a grinder. I had to shave just a hair off a couple of mine....it was prob not necessary... but hey I was little anal that night. wink.gif
DAZZZLA
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 24 2006, 01:17 AM) *
Hee, hee, heeeeee . . . ism huh.gif


laugh.gif
You just crack me up with your deliveries
DAZZZLA
QUOTE (Remdaddy @ Aug 24 2006, 01:26 AM) *
As to the head size you could take them down a little with a grinder. I had to shave just a hair off a couple of mine....it was prob not necessary... but hey I was little anal that night. wink.gif

ohmy.gif unsure.gif biggrin.gif

hang on, ph34r.gif nah
Remdaddy
QUOTE (DAZZZLA @ Aug 23 2006, 12:03 PM) *
ohmy.gif unsure.gif biggrin.gif

hang on, ph34r.gif nah


Why do I even try??? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
That did not sound good --esp with all these twisted minds. laugh.gif laugh.gif
SIMUL8R
Dang, word on the threads was that D was close to a final build. Popped in here for a peek and all I find are pics of a tattooed teeny and a bolt. And what the hell!!!....did I just read D using the 'ism'???
samuraijack
QUOTE (SIMUL8R @ Aug 23 2006, 12:32 PM) *
Dang, word on the threads was that D was close to a final build. Popped in here for a peek and all I find are pics of a tattooed teeny and a bolt. And what the hell!!!....did I just read D using the 'ism'???


Ahhhh...Truisms and half truthisms.....and half and halfismsss...

Need mo caffienism to hit the wakey wakey.....


...ism!

laugh.gif ism
DAZZZLA
Sorry D I can’t help myself sometimes. Feel free to pollute my plog , just a good will gesture from me.

DJ

PS I’ll try to reframe from going OT.
SIMUL8R
QUOTE (samuraijack @ Aug 23 2006, 09:36 AM) *
Ahhhh...Truisms and half truthisms.....and half and halfismsss...

Need mo caffienism to hit the wakey wakey.....
...ism!

laugh.gif ism

THATS IT, I'M PACKING UP VERTICAL LAMP AND I'M FINDING ANOTHER DIY HOME!!!!! :angry:

ism, errr....sim OUT!!!! blink.gif
samuraijack
QUOTE (SIMUL8R @ Aug 23 2006, 12:44 PM) *
THATS IT, I'M PACKING UP VERTICAL LAMP AND I'M FINDING ANOTHER DIY HOME!!!!! :angry:

ism, errr....sim OUT!!!! blink.gif


Yeah but who REALLY loves you more than the LL crew?
No amount of prozac will stimulate this type of insanity!
C,mon! Haikus written by Scottsman? Australianisms, Buff haircuts, slutty women, snakes, bears and the occasional shot of plywood?

You CANT BUY this type of fun!

Right Simism?

laugh.gif
Durachko
QUOTE (DAZZZLA @ Aug 23 2006, 12:03 PM) *
ohmy.gif unsure.gif biggrin.gif

hang on, ph34r.gif nah
Sometimes I think DAZZ is related to me. tongue.gif Do you realize how hard it was for me to pass on Rem's ripe-for-the-picking post? laugh.gif
Durachko
And who's spreading the vicious rumor(s) that I'm close to a final build anyway!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry: tongue.gif
SIMUL8R
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 23 2006, 11:01 AM) *
And who's spreading the vicious rumor(s) that I'm close to a final build anyway!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry: tongue.gif

Well, ism you going to finish thism or ism we going have to wait for the next centurism, wakey, wakey...
AHH CRAP, this 'ism' language ism very difficult! :angry: laugh.gif wink.gif

sisismisims...........................damit
elken2004
why is it I wake upism, and suddenly understandism the rest of the worldism.... oh boy !!
TESCORP
anyone remember what the topic of this thread was? oh yeah, ism's.
GadgetSmith
QUOTE (elken2004 @ Aug 23 2006, 06:34 PM) *
why is it I wake upism, and suddenly understandism the rest of the worldism.... oh boy !!


... or is it the rest of the world understands youism ! tongue.gif laugh.gif
samuraijack
QUOTE (GadgetSmith @ Aug 23 2006, 08:49 PM) *
... or is it the rest of the world understands youism ! tongue.gif laugh.gif


Elkenism!
Caffienatism for the sunism combat? Looky likey golden sunrise on the homesteadism!
Missed you upgrade to the brewerism in da house wid de scent-sual aroma-isms!

Reminds me o' me psych days when everything was an "ology". Study dis, study dat! Truthism be that all humanzees be screwed in ways they cant accept the "ology" of...

DSM IV becomes the new ism and the new bar....

Wow! I need some alcoholism.... huh.gif
TESCORP
ism dis gettin silly? SJ pass da bottle.
Durachko
Got some more cutting of my enclosure panels accomplished. Once I'm out of the garage and into my basement shop things should progress a bit more rapidly.

As an aside, while out for a walk in the rain yesterday we came across what I take as a comment from above regarding the speed with which my projector build is advancing. laugh.gif

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This is my first encounter of turtles "doing it" in the wilderness. I assume they practice opportunistic mating. I also assume this male doesn't have a foot fetish but rather has an interesting anatomy? ohmy.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif

They were nicely stacked until I disturbed them by approaching. Then the poor guy slid off to the side and gimme the ole red-eye gaze. What could I say? I don't speak turtle. And they were brazen enough to be doing it right in the middle of my truck path through our woodlot.

This was around 50 yards from our house BTW. I really wanted to check their undersides because we've seen one turtle several times over the years and someone carved initials into its shell. I'm fairly certain neither of these fine specimens is that one though.
Durachko
Just remembered (due to another recent post) a question I've had for awhile. I currently have Media Player Classic on my HTPC and when I fire up a DVD and go fullscreen I get two levels of "black" on the screen. I think a picture will say it better so:

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Can I make the "lighter black" bars as black as the rest of the screen and how?

Note: That example is not to scale and is not a screenie.
paladin
What's in the syringe might help. smile.gif
Durachko
rolleyes.gif tongue.gif Edit: You're just PO'ed I didn't use your panel fastening ideas! laugh.gif
paladin
Is that a 16:10 format image on a 16:9 format screen?
samuraijack
Try it with a movie and go full screen. My ClassicMP doesnt do that.
Durachko
QUOTE (paladin @ Aug 28 2006, 09:44 AM) *
Is that a 16:10 format image on a 16:9 format screen?
Uh . . . my example was created in FotoSlop. Not quite sure what you're getting at. Sorry, thought I was clear in my questioning post. sad.gif

When I insert a DVD and select the full screen option I get less-than-black bars displayed above and below the DVD image. The OSD from ffdshow appears inside of these "gray" areas. Completely black bars appear above and below the gray areas. Hmm . . . is that clearly stated? Maybe I'm not describing this clearly but don't know how else to put it? I resize the image and use the blur & denoise options of ffdshow (or something like that).

I can puzzle this out but figured it was just some really simply thing I was missing. We'll see what develops.
QUOTE (samuraijack @ Aug 28 2006, 09:48 AM) *
Try it with a movie and go full screen. My ClassicMP doesnt do that.
SJ: I think that's what I'm doing??? I'll experiment some more. I haven't put in a whole lot of fiddling with it yet.

You're saying your black bars are really black - right?

Also, my screen is 4:3 FWIW.
steve_TO
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 28 2006, 02:00 PM) *
Uh . . . my example was created in FotoSlop. Not quite sure what you're getting at. Sorry, thought I was clear in my questioning post. sad.gif

When I insert a DVD and select the full screen option I get less-than-black bars displayed above and below the DVD image. The OSD from ffdshow appears inside of these "gray" areas. Completely black bars appear above and below the gray areas. Hmm . . . is that clearly stated? Maybe I'm not describing this clearly but don't know how else to put it? I resize the image and use the blur & denoise options of ffdshow (or something like that).

I can puzzle this out but figured it was just some really simply thing I was missing. We'll see what develops.
SJ: I think that's what I'm doing??? I'll experiment some more. I haven't put in a whole lot of fiddling with it yet.

You're saying your black bars are really black - right?

Also, my screen is 4:3 FWIW.


I also have that problem with the background black bar colour being dark grey (almost bluish). I have uninstalled FFD show, but the problem still remains.

BTW this problem is not player specific, I get it in WMP, VLC, ZOOM, etc...
samuraijack
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 28 2006, 10:00 AM) *
Uh . . . my example was created in FotoSlop. Not quite sure what you're getting at. Sorry, thought I was clear in my questioning post. sad.gif

When I insert a DVD and select the full screen option I get less-than-black bars displayed above and below the DVD image. The OSD from ffdshow appears inside of these "gray" areas. Completely black bars appear above and below the gray areas. Hmm . . . is that clearly stated? Maybe I'm not describing this clearly but don't know how else to put it? I resize the image and use the blur & denoise options of ffdshow (or something like that).

I can puzzle this out but figured it was just some really simply thing I was missing. We'll see what develops.
SJ: I think that's what I'm doing??? I'll experiment some more. I haven't put in a whole lot of fiddling with it yet.

You're saying your black bars are really black - right?

Also, my screen is 4:3 FWIW.


Under the Options category, under playback, what are your settings? Mine is set to AutoZoom, but you can also specify a size. Im at work right now, so no DVD...wink.gif

BTW, That girlie is darn cute! She can play doctor with me anytime...
elken2004
just passing thru,, but that prob is classic prob with video drivers

one side sets desktop, the other set overlays,, which are dvd player and the like

as per example NVIDIA,, you can control desktop as one item and overlay as another,,, or you can choose do it too both together

i would say what you had was overlay bright and gamma higher than the desktop ones....
elken2004
and as to ''signs from above'',,,, well they are waiting for you to build it,,, then they will come,,, yuk hehehehyuk yuk hehehehhe
DAZZZLA
I’m not sure if this will help.
I have an Nvidia card and in its control panel I can adjust overlays independently. Maybe you have something simular.

DJ

edit:
LOL, Looks like Elken bet me to it.
stirlinga
I know with TheaterTek you can adjust the blanking... right click - blanking. Not sure about other players though.
Durachko
Played around a little last night and discovered that I get this gray frame effect (see recent posts above) whenever I use a multiplier larger than 2 in the FFDshow resize option. Now why would that be? With a multiplier of two (2) I get pure black borders. With a multiplier of three (3) I get these funky gray borders. Is there a simple explanation? I couldn't find anything else that would eliminate the gray borders other than reducing to a multiplier of two (2). Sure, I can just use the inoffensive multiplier - but I'm curious to know why this is happening.
Durachko
And annuda ting - is it common to experience noise/shudder when switching between a DVD's opening menu and actually displaying the movie itself? I get odd pixelation artifacts at these points in playing a DVD. Jumping, stuttering behavior (the display - n..n..n..not me!).
samuraijack
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 30 2006, 02:20 PM) *
And annuda ting - is it common to experience noise/shudder when switching between a DVD's opening menu and actually displaying the movie itself? I get odd pixelation artifacts at these points in playing a DVD. Jumping, stuttering behavior (the display - n..n..n..not me!).


That usually means you are either doing too much post processing, or your drivers need to be cleaned up. Wanna post your specs and your decoding chain so we can have a look?
Durachko
QUOTE (samuraijack @ Aug 30 2006, 02:48 PM) *
That usually means you are either doing too much post processing, or your drivers need to be cleaned up. Wanna post your specs and your decoding chain so we can have a look?
Uh, sure. But I haven't used my CrackerJack decoder ring since I was a kid. huh.gif

Seriously, I'm relatively ignorant regarding specifically whatcha mean by decoding chain but I'll dig in sometime soon and get the info posted here. smile.gif

The movie plays just fine and the FFDshow OSD shows I'm utilizing like 60 to 100% CPU capability - flickers constantly between those two approximate values.

And the junk while switching from menu to movie isn't particularly annoying since that's the only time it happens.

Can you describe in idiot-proof terms what you'd like to know about my system I haven't already written up in the first post of this plog? Other than which decoders I'm using that is. I'm following directions posted on the web and - I think - outlined earlier in this plog BTW.

Like I said, I'll try to gather up everything in one place to makes things easier for folks to help.

Another thing, I think I get this crap even when I have almost no post-processing active? I must verify this though.

Thanks SJ.
samuraijack
QUOTE (Durachko @ Aug 30 2006, 02:58 PM) *
Uh, sure. But I haven't used my CrackerJack decoder ring since I was a kid. huh.gif

Seriously, I'm relatively ignorant regarding specifically whatcha mean by decoding chain but I'll dig in sometime soon and get the info posted here. smile.gif

The movie plays just fine and the FFDshow OSD shows I'm utilizing like 60 to 100% CPU capability - flickers constantly between those two approximate values.

And the junk while switching from menu to movie isn't particularly annoying since that's the only time it happens.

Can you describe in idiot-proof terms what you'd like to know about my system I haven't already written up in the first post of this plog? Other than which decoders I'm using that is. I'm following directions posted on the web and - I think - outlined earlier in this plog BTW.

Like I said, I'll try to gather up everything in one place to makes things easier for folks to help.

Another thing, I think I get this crap even when I have almost no post-processing active? I must verify this though.

Thanks SJ.


Drivers for video
Decoders installed and which ones are active.
Which version of the decoders?
What sound card are you using?

I think my unit used to do this too with MPC. I changed versions and that went away, but I also did some tuning.
brainlock
QUOTE (samuraijack @ Aug 30 2006, 03:14 PM) *
Drivers for video
Decoders installed and which ones are active.
Which version of the decoders?
What sound card are you using?

I think my unit used to do this too with MPC. I changed versions and that went away, but I also did some tuning.


as far as codecs go... the k-lite codec pack usually solves all my problems...
K-Lite Codec Pack Description Download for Full... you can google it for other download locations if this one doesn't work.

edit: i guess it contains players, filters, and some tools as well.... and i meant to say audio and video codecs... the full package contains encoders as well... so you can re-encode videos or audio to other formats... it's been awhile since I had to go out and get it... it's really maturing nicely... it's been around for at least the 2-3 years I've been using it...

edit #2: hehe... how could you get anything done without the "GSpot Codec Information Appliance"...
samuraijack
QUOTE (brainlock @ Aug 30 2006, 03:29 PM) *
as far as codecs go... the k-lite codec pack usually solves all my problems...
K-Lite Codec Pack Description Download for Full... you can google it for other download locations if this one doesn't work.

edit: i guess it contains players, filters, and some tools as well.... and i meant to say audio and video codecs... the full package contains encoders as well... so you can re-encode videos or audio to other formats... it's been awhile since I had to go out and get it... it's really maturing nicely... it's been around for at least the 2-3 years I've been using it...

edit #2: hehe... how could you get anything done without the "GSpot Codec Information Appliance"...


I would caution against a full fledged codec pack. Its true that some out there are pretty good, but they seem to always screw something up, even if its not readily apparent. I prefer the lean method of decoding. Thats been my experience, but there are some talented people out there. Maybe things have changed...
Although I have been using Gspot since it came out...very usefull.
brainlock
QUOTE (samuraijack @ Aug 30 2006, 03:45 PM) *
I would caution against a full fledged codec pack. Its true that some out there are pretty good, but they seem to always screw something up, even if its not readily apparent. I prefer the lean method of decoding. Thats been my experience, but there are some talented people out there. Maybe things have changed...
Although I have been using Gspot since it came out...very usefull.


each to his own i guess... probably best to figure out what the problem is versus throwing a whole bunch of software at it... K-Lite has saved my neck though when video won't play unexpectedly... especially for presentations and the like.
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