I guess one way to find out is to insert them, boot up the computer, and see if everything flys just fine. (just make sure they fit in correctly, don't force anything)

beat me to it

Hmmmm . . . didn't I ask for conclusive answers?

Yeah, that's probably just what I'll wind up ultimately doing but I'm hoping someone else with that mobo might chime in. I guess the odds are pretty slim someone on Lumenlab has the exact same mobo & mem though.

(The memory is already in - in fact. Waiting impatiently for my power supply.)

ya know, this was a very confusing subject for me as well when I went to buy memory for a new MB. I don't remember where, but I ended up reading something about how the physical apperance of the memory (double sided, 8 chips, 16 chips, etc...) had nothing to do with it's compatibility, but it was more about how the memory organized transfer...

... so I can say conclusively that; "it just might work." !!

(sorry D, not what you were looking for, but personally, i'd give it a 99% chance of being fine.)

gs

edit: also forgot to say that I too have an ASUS board (P5LD2 Deluxe) with the same stern warnings about how "double sided x16 chips" won't work...

I'll take 99% any day.

Err . . . am I to assume then that you have the taboo double-sided x16 configuration in YOUR P5LD2 Deeeeeee-lux without problems?

I had the same warning on my MB. Im running the Corsair equivalant of your ram and it runs super good!
I'll bet you a snickers bar it works!

SJ

Sounding better and better!

You guys figger the manufacturers are just playing some cruel joke putting that crazy warning in the mobo manuals?

I've lost track - if it works then do I owe you one or two Snickers™?

Man I just love how I can type crazy stuff now . . . ©, ®, ╝, ♥, █!!!

This is typical CYA by the manufacturer... this is why they only list 10 types of memory that work for the motherboard out of the 100's that are available... they should just put a statement that reads: "you've spent good money on our nice, but fairly overpriced, motherboard, so don't go and cheap out on the memory and buy some no-name junk to go with it... buy something mainstream, and up to date and you shouldn't have too much trouble." ... at least that's my cynical view on the whole thing...

yup, my memory doesn't work according to my motherboard manual !

gs

The HTPC Lives!!!

SJ asked me above about whether or not I had the "big WOW" when I first got an image from my projector. Oddly enough I'm more excited about my computer than I was about my projector. I think that'll change when I really get the projector done though!

The case needs a little work to get the power supply in proper. Maybe tomorrow I can get that done.

Gotta get an OS in that baby and download the customary 48 hours worth of windows updates and get all the latest drivers and get everyone to make nice with one another, etc.

Dang computers!

Oh yeah - the "unsupported" memory DOES work.

The ugly case won't be seen since it'll be built into my projector enclosure. All that will show is a custom built power panel including a fan controller and the DVD+/-R drive. At least that's the current plan.

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Taking a shower this morning. My wife plants her face on the shower door and she's in tears. My heart attempts to leap from my chest.



Cripes! It's just the bluebird box 25 feet from our kitchen door was knocked down.

Sherlock Durachko has determined we have a birdhouse bear again!

Bent down a steel pipe, popped the top, and munched out on a nice plateful of baby bluebirds. Yummy!!!

Also took down two other boxes but decided the contents were not to its liking. How shamefully wasteful.

I can never figure out how those dang things stroll around outside our house all the time knocking stuff down with all their brute strength and yet they can daintily pick baby birds out of a nest without leaving much in the way of evidence of their passing. The nests were very intact and not at all shredded. I couldn't find one print even on the muddy lane next to one of the raided nesting boxes. Twas a bear no doubt. Hope it won't be back.

Ooooooooo those pesky beaws. Pesky wabbits awe bad enough wifouwt having to deaw wiff pesky beaws!

Okay, now to mount that power supply in my HTPC case before I really have to do some work today.

I think you're on to something here, Durachko. The problem with the focus on folded light paths is............
Bears!!! Yeah that's definitely it...... those damn bears!! I better go tell Rearden asap.

By the way, blue bird box is a great name for a PJ.

On a more serious note.... R.I.P. baby birds.... candle light vigil @ my house

Got Zoomplayer and an AMD64 3200+.

Precisely which build of FFDshow should I download? The most recent "generic" pack? What the bloody biscuit fwappa-dappa-doo are the SSE & SSE2 versions of the latest build and why should I care? Friggin' acronyms! :angry:

I looked it up but my fuse is a little short today and I couldn't stand to dig any further.

Anyway, any recommendations and advice are appreciated.

You want the SSE version.

I was too slow! I just dug a little deeper and came to the firm conclusion I wanted the SSE2 version since it appears my chip supports SSE2. Was gonna delete my question. So, now, may I ask why you specified SSE SJ? Boy, I hate being stoopid.

Jeez I didnt even notice that.
Sticky Keys....Hahahaha!



Delete it if you want!

Hmmm . . . what . . . have you been eating Snickers bars over your keyboard again?!?!

I found this thread and maybe someone else with similar concerns will find it useful.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/ind...46752-p-17.html

Thanks SJ.

I gotta get over my paranoia about downloading the wrong stuff to my comp!

I may try Media Player Classic based on the above thread which I'm pretty certain you - SJ - suggested to me not so long ago. This is instead of Zoomplayer. We'll see . . .

Yep Classic is my player of choice, but a friend of mine just graced me with TheaterTek and Im thinking this one might be a pretty nice thing to use. Classic intergates well, supports a wumpload of file formats and can be customized in much the same manner as Zoom...and its free!

Having a little problem trying to use Avisynth.

I'm following this guide and I can't get FFDshow to play nice with Avisynth scripts.

I get this error:

Evaluate: System exception - Access Violation
(ffdshow_filter_avisynth_script, line 1)

Can anyone tell me what silly thing I'm missing?

Anything I enter into the Avisynth text box in FFDshow gives me this error so I'm pretty sure I've simply got something configured incorrectly.

Im hazy on this. I used to run a lot of avisynth when crushing movies. I seem to remeber something about the SSE versus non SSE versions. But it looks to me like the script isnt being loaded. Did you get the right extension on the script and did you use the defaults for paths?

I see what yer gettin' at and figured there was a problem like ffdshow didn't know where to look for what I was telling it to use.

I uninstalled FFDshow and reinstalled it and the paths looked right so I thought I was good there. I'll check again.

This is all new to me and coming up to speed always takes some heartache.

I simply followed this guide:

All versions use these settings

THIS STEP IS THE MOST IMPORTANT !
YOU MUST FOLLOW THIS STEP. BEWARE ! CAUTION !
- Put RemoveGrain 0.9 in the avisynth Plugins folder.
It should be the only thing in the Plugins folder.
Delete everything else that's in there.
- Step 2. Put RemoveGrain 1.0 Beta in the Avisynth Plugins folder.
Let it copy over the removegrain that's in there.
There should be only the new removegrain in the Avisynth Plugin folder now !

Now the rest is easy. Put these into the Avisynth Plugins Folder.
You get from Masktools folder
- mt_masktools.dll
- LimitedSharpenFaster.avsi
You get from hqdn3d folder
hqdn3d.dll

ffdshow
Codecs
- Raw Video: All Supported

ffdshow
Output
- Planar YUV: YV12 Checked
- Allow output format changes during playback. (Box is the color Green)

Entry Level PC's use these settings
ffdshow
Blur & NR
- Blur & NR Checked
- - Denoise3d Checked: Luma 0.00, Chroma 2.00, Time 4.00, HQ Checked

ffdshow
Resize & Aspect
- Resize Checked
- Multiply by 2.000
- Resize Always
- No aspect ratio correction
Resize & Aspect Settings tab
- Luma Meathod: Lanczos
- Parameter 2.00
- Luma Sharpen 1.20

Version B use these settings
ffdshow
Resize & Aspect
- Resize Checked
- Multiply by 2.000 (Or 3.000)
- Resize Always
- No aspect ratio correction
Resize & Aspect Settings tab
- Luma Meathod: Lanczos
- Parameter 2.00
- Luma Sharpen 0.00

ffdshow
Avisynth
- Avisynth Checked
- Add ffdshow video source Checked
- Input Colorspaces: YV12 Checked
- In the Text box I type (No Spaces):
hqdn3d(0.0,2,0.0,4)
LimitedSharpenFaster(ss_x=1.0,ss_y=1.0,Smode=3,strength=60,o vershoot=7)

This is the version used when your using MT (Multithreading):
SetMTMode(2)
MT("HQDN3D(0.0,2,0.0,4)")
MT("LimitedSharpenFaster(ss_x=1.0,ss_y=1.0,Smode=3,strength=60,o vershoot=7)")

Step 11.) To set up ffdshow Avisynth to use MT (Multithreading), you need to get the plugin's for it.
From the MT link. Put the MT.dll in the avisynth plugin's folder,
and put the avisynth.dll in the Windows System 32 folder.
Use this if your cpu support hyperthreading or is a Multicore cpu.

Step 12.) To set up reclock for NTSC dvd's.
In the Configure Reclock utility. Under the Video Settings Tab.
- Uncheck "Determine framerate of dvd's..."
- Put 29.970 in both boxes.
- the rest of the settings in this utility are default.
- Your Monitor refresh rate has to be 60 Hertz.
In Zoom Player
- Under the Advanced settings, DVD tab, "Customized (Recommended)".
Highlight the Reclock Audio Renderer and register it.

END GUIDE

Red sections are most pertinent. So, I maybe should just try insertring a path into that script I'm entering into the FFDshow text box?

My understanding is my processor don't support MT.

I'll keep fiddlin'. Thanks for the input - as always!

Sometimes I just need a little prod to get back on track.

Errrr . . . . . . I had the wrong version of FFDshow installed. No idea how that happened since I just clicked on what I was supposed to click on in that guide.

Anyway, it's glaringly obvious Avisynth is working now since my DVD plays incredibly stuttery and my CPU load is 100% pedal-to-the-metal.

Sigh . . . back to fiddlin' . . .

My Aerogate 3 is installed and lookin' good BTW.

What version did you have before?

Prior to the one I have now (20051129) I was using 20041012.

I still have to verify this is THE one I want. The 20041012 one was SSE2 specific but my processor supports SSE3 - if I can remember what I found out yesterday correctly!

These things drive my crazy!

Using Blur & NR really makes a difference and doesn't bog my system.

LimitedSharpenFaster (Avisynth) slows it to a crawl.

Gonna take some tweakin' to get things just so.

I'm a bit surprised that I'm so bogged down by the Avisynth thing but I may very well still have something setup very wrong.

Finally got the fireball pic from my "Take Yer Kid to Work Day" presentation.

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Durachko

Try this version of FFDShow. This may solve your issues.

http://mirror01.x264.nl/x264/ffdshow-20051...sse-x264.nl.exe



Here is a beta of the new ZoomPlayer.Very stable and new features!

http://www.inmatrix.com/files/zoomplayer_beta.shtml

Thanks ChuckL. I'll look into it. A quick search gave me no build details but I assume you have a good reason for recommending that one. Is it optimized for my processor type?

Here is an even newer version of FFDShow. This software has daily builds but are hard to find.

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/download_splash.cfm

How much ram do you have and what type of video? Just curious.

One gig. GeForce 6800 w/256MB.

I tried that build you suggested above and it appears to behave exactly like the one I had been using previously. My system still chokes on Avisynth. Just Blur & NR w/Denoise3d and Resize & Aspect X 3 Lanczos Param 2 Luma Sharpen ~1.0 works pretty dang well though. Not sure how much better the Avisynth can possibly do especially if I wind up tweaking my system all to hell just to get it working and wind up with near 100% CPU load???

Plus, I need to finish my damn projector!!!

Yeah u do need to finish ur damn projector!!!!! I'm not interested in all this PC stuff!!!! I want my money back from my durachko subscription!!! haha j/k. But yeah i'm lookin' forward to u gettin back to your pj and stuff.. u think u can make ur pj shoot out a fireball too? Now that would be cool..........


Edit: OMG!!! this post just made me a Guru!!! W00 H00!!!!

that fireball pic reminds me of one ill-advised afternoon at college, when a classmate of mine showed a bunch of us how to make fireballs by igniting airborne clouds of non-dairy creamer - him and his twin brother had melted a huge stretch of their garage's vinyl siding doing that

the stint culminated with him going to a lower level of the quad with my lighter, and me shaking the entire jar down onto him - when it finally caught, it turned into a giant cloud of fire that knocked us backwards to the ground, singeing our eyebrows as it shot up 2-3 stories past us

Oh man! That brings back memories!!! Juggling flaming tennis balls and throwing them at random at my inebriated buddies watching me. My one friend still remembers running away while looking over his shoulder at the fireball attempting to overtake him!

Once we tied a piece of fishing line between dorms and tied a dollar bill to the middle. Whenever someone would come along and try to pick it up we'd jerk the line and it'd shoot away from their grasp. One girl screamed and ran away.

I set fire to one guys underwear (the slob ) when I shot a bottle rocket under his door.

Hey, what IS your avatar wharpua?

arrik: NO REFUNDS!!! NO RETURNS!!! You do remind me of a Tibetan monk in your pics - kind of - well, a beer swilling Tibetan monk! - so that's like being a guru of sorts. I could make my PJ shoot a fireball but it'd be very messy in my basement and my ceiling would scorch!

Edit: You should see what you can do with 5 or so pounds of creamer and some black powder in a 5 gallon bucket. 80 foot fireball. AWESOME!!! (Note: I do not recommend trying it without proper research and safety precautions.) I'll get a pic of my next one.

I remember in high school chemistry class we had lab benches that had round sinks in the middle. Of course there were gas outlets for the bunsen burners too. One day we had the bright idea of putting a cork in the drain of the sink and using a piece of hose to fill the sink with natural gas, and then my friend Vince used a striker to light it. It made a good fireball and singed his arm hair.

My avatar is actually a light drawing (photograph) I made during art school - I did a big series of them, and printed a few out as 5' square images. That's me inside those rings of light, swinging around a little mag-lite bulb, and turning it on and off. The avatar is too small to show this, but at the points where the light arcs end, you can actually see my hand silhouetted against the background multiple times, so it's as if the figure in the middle has 12 arms or so.

I'm actually sitting on a bunch of these - people always told me they would sell, but I was never too interested in pursuing gallery stuff. This avatar is actually the only example of these images existing online. I may post this one in larger form over on my newly-created PLOG.

Also, what's the 'black powder' you mention? Gunpowder? Either way, it sounds like you've got some serious pyro experience under your belt that would make my old classmate proud. (As an odd side note, a high school friend of mine met a different classmate who was present that afternoon, and while playing the 'name game' asked if he knew me, and he said, "Yeah, I know who he is. Doesn't he like to blow things up or something?")

Ah Creamer Cannons.....NDC, PVC pipe, a firecracker and a candle....you can do it with flour too! Lets not forget Potassium Permanganate and glycerine or powdered aluminum and ferric oxide with a magnesium fuse...Hair spray cannons. Spud guns and of course, the napalm catapult. AKA "Death Rain
"

Somedays I look back and think.....

"Why am I NOT dead?"

Samuraijack

Oh yeah - post some of those light drawing pics please!

Yep: black powder = gunpowder.

Once a guy here at work filled a rubber glove with hydrogen and lit it with a hand held lighter. He had no arm hair left to speak of up to his elbow! Stinky too!!!

While he was lighting it in my rather small office another guy was attempting to claw his way out through the closed door like a caged rat!! He was very scared.

We also pushed one of those gloves out the window with a LONG-fused firecracker attached. It floated up nicely and KAAA-BOOOOOM.

One dunce in our high school chemistry class decided it'd be smart to stick a paper clip into the benchtop electrical receptacle right in the middle of lecture. PFZZZZZZZTTTT!!!!!

Remotely-lit, strategically-placed firecrackers and bottle rockets kick major butt. Also, a micro switch, 9V battery, and some really fine wire along with a cracker or rocket make for some nice additions to desk drawers. Ahhh . . . sweet booby traps. The guy who tried to claw through the door above got to the point where he'd kick his desk chair before sitting down and he'd always stand as far away from his desk as possible and open and close the drawers quickly to check for and contain any pyro items. Can you say P-A-R-A-N-O-I-A?

I'd better stop here. I've already revealed way too much.

garbage bags with acetylene and oxygen make a loud bang too, but you need a really long fuse. I always made sure to watch from a safe distance rather than get involved when my friends did that. These are the same friends that always have a potato gun on the 4th of July. Some time I'm going to make a potato trebuchet and give them a run for their money.
The simple funnelator is always fun too.

HMMMMM

trebuchet + 5 lbs potassium (borrowed from the Chem Lab ) + calm lake in the middle of the University =

Ahhhh the days of College youth.......and to think I have reproduced also

Back in the day you either made drugs or blew crap up to utilize your new found vast knowledge of chemistry.
I always preferred the fireball.
Of course there was that whole solar panel still thing senior year

Don't forget the tennis ball canon.
Four bud tall beer cans taped together with the centers mostly removed lots of duck tape 7 drops of lighter fluid shake for 3 seconds and bang. (There were lots of small injuries doing this)
The real fun is soaking the tennis ball in lighter fluid( not too much just a little) first, it lights when leaving the cannon and you have a great high velocity flame ball cannon.

After a few cold ones we would line up in a row about 50' from the cannon to see if the two man firing team can make a hit. The flame balls added just the right amount of thrill. I would say about 100mph flaming tennis ball. Pay attention it hurts when you loose.

I liked to make ummmm....loud noises? when I was in high school, but I was always intelligent enough to have my best friend(?) light the fuses while I was at a safe distance .... when my parents finally retired and moved they had to replace the floor in my bedroom, seems there were large holes in the floor .....

I used to have fun with pure sodium. Drop a small piece in some water - sizzle, sizzle, sizzle, BOOM.

oh dear,, reminds me of nitro mishaps,, or should I say deliberate's

You guys keep talking like this, about chemicals, explosions and what not......next thing you know "Big Brother" will be keeping an eye on those "so called, projector builders."



Don't blame me......I didn't vote for W!!!

Bluto

Okay AV. I challenge you to a duel. I think I still have my "Polish Cannon" and it actually has a sighting reticle, bazooka-style handles, and a piezoelectric gizmo to fire it.

We never got 'em to come out flaming.

I can't count the welts I got and the tears (with laughing) I shed both from being hit and scoring a hit.

Somebody "upstairs" must have been looking out for all of us who still have 10 fingers, two working eyeballs, and no major burn scars!!!

When they started making the damn cans with the formed bottoms and tapered tops I immediately saved a carton of empties so I could make these things when I was 90 years old.

I found gasoline to be much better than lighter fluid.

I think that someone upstairs must have been looking in another direction while I was playing. I lost most of my vision in my left eye from a crossbow made from car leaf springs and a steal cable. Extremely bad burns to both hands from harvesting phosphor from matches using a blender. High velocity grey icky stuff squirted into my eye when I was cutting a golf ball open while having too much squishing force applied to it in a vice. Acid in my eyes while making hydrogen balloons for exploding. Brass shell casing imbedded in-between my knuckles from detonating blank bullets with a hammer. A singed face from testing homemade black powder to close to the open freshly made 10KG batch. My accident rate did improve as I got older. Now if I could only stop walking in tight lefthand circles .
I wouldn’t change anything though, the stuff I learnt is priceless.
A least I’m still alive.

DJ

Holy crap DAZZ!!! I had no idea you were truly crazy all the time I've been teasing you!!!

You'd best start taking better care of yourself in your "old age". We want you around for a l-o-n-g time to come.

And don't worry about those circles. They keep you in one place so yer less likely to get into even more trouble!

10kg of BP? Man - you are playing with fire!

Edit: You into pyro or just big bangs?

The greatest thing about being young is you heal so fast! This allows you to keep learning weekend after weekend after weekend.......

As for not voting for "W” I want to know how many lefties like to make there own cannons?

I remember them telling me wee need safer bullets? In California they are going to make them put little tiny serial numbers on every bullet and if you don’t too can sell them. But that doesn’t mater they all gave up their guns a long time ago and there guts too.

Light off a loud bang in any leftist controlled city and expect to do some real time.

Look at my avatar, Poo has a gun, The people you like have taken his gun away ( PC has made almost all the new cartoons about saving the environment not about saving people) and they will not stop until the whole country is safe from itself.

Just a few more laws and we can all be safe from a potato cannon. I can’t remember where but they have made them illegal in places already.

Rant on my good brother!!.
There is no 1st without the 2nd.
Amendments-- for you slow folks out there-- you know the Constitution.

Just gonna lie low while this here debate blows herself out.

I try not to do it but it just comes out some times I would be glad to start a thread on "who would be the most willing to pull the spud cannon from your cold dead hands." Met me over at the outlands, I'm ready

It's all a personality thing and I don't mind people shootin' off a bit now 'n then. I have STRONG feelings about gun control 'n all dat stuff but I tend to keep them to myself. Just in case yer wunderin' I get weak in the knees when I smell Hoppe's No. 9.