The eVo makes longer cars. It's the one wider than high.Yessir. Both were same width within a fraction of an inch.Affirmative.

mmmm - think I like your's better...

I have to agree.
Your colors are alot less washed out, and more like I remember the movie being.
I have a 2 year old who is fascinated with the movie, and we have seen it hundreds (not exaggerating) of times.

DIY!!!!

I'm impressed D I thought yours was on the right Your colors look deeper.

Dear SIM:

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you gotta luv him

Figure I'll add a few comments since I am the eVo donor. First let me say that I am the one that planted the evil little DIY PJ seed in Dans head. I really wanted to do a build too but there just isn't enough spare time and I lack the PC skills that Dan has. When the eVo came out, I jumped on one just to have something to shoot a picture from with a cheap bulb and it had met my expectations just fine. The fan makes too much noise, there is a lot of light leaking on darked pictures, and a few other minor issues that I was well aware of going into this. Mine hasn't caught fire yet and the viewing area we have is so far from ideal that a better PJ would just be wasted!

That said, the eVo is a VERY viewable PJ and to compare it to the level of DIY that Dan built is like comparing a Yugo to a Corvette. They will both get you to work and that's about the only common feature!

The only advantages the eVo has is size and inputs. I took mine back home in the back seat of my truck while Dan's PJ would have had to ride in the truck bed.

I wish we would have had more time to play and believe me when I say that Dan's PJ really kicks a$$ and it's not even close to finished!! There is just no way you could tolerate doing any PC work with the eVo due to the SDE but with the resolution of Dan's, it looks great.

If you had the projectors in different rooms, you could still easily walk from room to room and notice a big difference.

It should not come as a shock how much better the DIY is given Dan's skills, patience, and the level of components used in his build and I think for the most part, he had fun doing it?

After seeing it in person, it really does make me wish I could find the time for even a simple DIY!!


Ken

Hi Durachko
Took me a wile to get through your plog after being out of pocket for so long.I like what you have done and your screenshots are impresive. The EVO is ok but your looks better!
I feel your pain about sinking $ into the projector.
Did you use the big springs anywhere on your mirror mount? I have some window locks that I am going to modify for the ones I am building. I am not happy with my current mirror mount so I am going to follow your lead. How about a pic of your completed assy if it differs at all from the pic you have posted before paint.

No difference. This is it and it works a treat. You honor me sir.

Thanks D
I figured not but I had to know. I am glad you finally got your pig in the air. The two long bolts on the mount secure it to the plywood? I was also curious as to how sturdy the springs are. Are they real stiff and wound of steel?

Yep, just two long pan head wood/sheet metal screws for each of the three brackets.They're actually not stiff springs at all but yes they're steel. I went through the bins at the hardware and picked out pretty much the "weakest" springs they had and they're plenty stiff for this application. It's very easy and quick to adjust the mirror with my fingers and the adjuster screws do not "creep" at all but stay put where I adjust them.

Thanks D
I guess I'm going spring hunting!

Tres cool, D.

Some observations: When Destructo-kitty killed my first Ushio S400DD, I looked at the exact lamp you have pictured there, but was too chicken to try it. (Guess I shoulda!)

Your DIY looks much better than the eVo, but it's really hard to make 1:1 comparisons without being TRUELY side-by-side. Initial impressions though, your build wins.

Hey D
Where did you get your springs for the mirror mount? I have been to LOWES,HD AND ACE but no joy.

If you struck out at Ace I'm afraid for you. Seriously, I'm not 100% certain but am pretty sure I got them at a local Mom & Pop hardware. I work at a university and they seem to stock a kick-ass amount of gizmo stuff and I always see physics lab basement types in there rifling through the bins. I could stop by and pick some up and mail them to you if ya want but it may take me a week or two. They're conical in shape and that makes them pretty odd don't it? You have any other hardware stores nearby that have like a whole freaking wall of those little plastic containers that are like fishing lure boxes and they hold EVERYTHING you could ever possibly need or want EXCEPT they always only have 3 left of the 4 things you need from that one little compartment?

D
I think i may have lucked out, Found another ACE here in town and they say they have the springs and guess what......They have 2

Try TrueValue. That's what I have down the road from me and they have a whole stack of little drawers will all sorts of springs.

www.truevalue.com (no i'm not affiliated in any way...)

Thanks GadgetSmith
I found another spring at another ACE store in the next town. They are a little bigger than the ones D used on his but they will give the mirror a really good push. I have no TrueValue stores close to me. I looked for them first as I used to go there for stuff like this when I lived in Dallas.
Here is what I got.
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What can I say? I'm prescient.

I purposely went for very, very "light" springs - and they still make me cringe when I adjust the mirror due to the ominous sounds which are produced. It sounds like the mirror is going to shatter.

They had a spring that fits the bill. It is heavier than the ones you have but if it is too much I will cut a coil or too off. I will put them in today.

You dont HAVE to...but I hear his wife gets hefty compensation...

Then why's she always telling me she's overworked and underpaid?

Guess she's finding it more difficult to keep luvin ya despite her current hefty compensation....just a guess

And I repeat.

Double duty.

Waste not, want not.

Really? All three?

AP Report: In a rare spurt of DIY projector activity I've disassembled my pro triplet, cleaned out the hundreds of dust and lint pieces, inserted an 80 millimeter iris between the two rearmost lens elements, and reassembled it without even chipping any more pieces off of anything. Phew. Now for another several month long hiatus.

It'll be winter in your neck of the woods soon too . Those bears 'll slow you down again.

I'm very keen to hear how your iris goes. I've got a couple of stray internal light leaks that are difficult to plug as the result of my over ambitious first design. Just random scatterings of light, but I think they may be washing the image out a little.

It definitely makes a difference in the projection quality particularly at the periphery of the projection. When I project the paladin program pgen.exe white dots on a black background they are "starlike" at the periphery. The iris tames that way down. I use it as a result of research done by DAZZZLA with his homemade adjustable paper iris. The man's a dogged researcher and a smart cookie to boot - as are many others in this here place called Lumenlab. I tried to get pictures to demonstrate the difference but ran out of patience. Natural Newbie uses an iris of sorts as well. He just chops off the ends of his arc image at the butt of the pro lens with some electrical tape or similar. One can also pay attention to blacking out the edges of the lens elements and anything inside the pro triplet. DAZZZLA described it to me as the lens not being able to process peripheral light well or sumpin' like dat.

Thanks, D - I'll play around with those ideas. I'll start with some tape and "science it up" from there depending on the results.

I'll be interested to hear what your results are L so if you remember gimme a heads-up when you do some experimenting so I don't miss it.

If you do decide to stick an iris INSIDE your lens just have a very clean work area and a can of compressed air handy for blowing crud off the lenses. Mine was a horrible mess (but it didn't really seem to affect the projection at all) and I just couldn't stand looking at it. Besides, I really wanted the iris inside instead of taped to the butt of the lens.

Oh, and be patient with taking it apart and putting it back together. The stuff is a really close tolerance fit and the lens elements can really jamb easily. I chipped one of mine pretty badly but it's at the edge and has no effect on the projection.

Sure, I can let you know how it goes here if you like. I haven't posted on my own PLOG for quite some time!

I was curious as to why you put the iris inside rather than before the lens, but you've answered that for me. I don't think I'll be taking my lens apart in the short term as I have basically been watching the PJ every night since I stopped updating, and there are a few minor tweaks I want to make before engaging in conduct that could result in the catastrophic failure of an expensive component. Destroying 1 LCD TV was quite enough extra-budgetary excitement for me...

I do remember seeing Dazzz's iris. Looks fantastic, but a bit complicated for my liking at the mo. My picture is awesome, so I don't really want to spend a great deal of time eeking out the last couple of perhaps unnoticable percent. In consideration of the law of diminishing returns, sorting my screen and playing with aforementioned black tape is probably enough for me for a while. I'll keep you posted.

Happy birthday to me.

Happy birthday to meeeee.

Happy birthday Duuuuu-raaaach-kooooooo.

Happy birthday to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Proud owner of an LG LP154WU1 15.4" WUXGA panel. I only moments ago cut open the packaging to gaze upon it's beauty. I had no jitters 'bout gutting a 17" but these look ominously more fragile in some indescribable way.

Stay tuned for more . . . As is typical it'll likely be awhile. I had my sights on a Kontron but now that dag nab Johnzo dropped this bomb the day before I get my panel. Even though my butt is still sore I've gotta crawl right back up on that fencepost for awhile yet.

Happy Birthday Big Guy!

A birthday is a free day around our house. You dont have to do ANYTHING... so what arent you gonna do today?

Happy Birthday man!

What made you pick the LG?

Happy Birthday D-man!!! And many mooore!!!

Thanks fellows. It's an early present. My birthday is the 31st. The LG kinda picked me and not the other way around. We'll see how she turns out.

Hi Ho, premature ebirthdaylator

Great to see some movement at the station, though.

All the best with the LG

Happy B-Day D! Have a good one!!

That 15.4 sure looks thin and fragile doesnt it?

Not as much as a toshiba does....I think Christmas GT has something to do with that

PS happy birthday! Always an excellent excuse for buying PJ parts.

I'm going to hold on the best wishes until that day comes D-Man but if I miss it then Happy Postdated Spawn Day to you.

The LG is nowhere near as fragile as the Toshiba. I would say out of the three WUXGA brand's that I've worked with, from strongest (and hardest to AG/AR strip) to least would go LG, Sharp, Toshiba. No Samsung experience.


Happy birthday

I had to read that three times to decide whether it was good news or bad news. And I'm still not sure.

Thanks!

Happy birthday Durachko

Hope you'll have a nice one

cheers

Are you planning on AG/AR stripping it?

Oh, you betcha. Just gotta woik up da noive.

Edit: Now that I'm getting a wee bit of attention do I remember correctly that there was a member quite recently who related their relatively smooth experience with doing both an antiglare and reflective layer strip on an LG panel???

Anyone?

I can't seem to find it although I can't find sugar in the grocery store when my wife puts it on the list either.

Edit 2: It could be a simple case of wishful thinking.

If you search around, you might find that I had a bear of a time with the two LG's I stripped . I would say that the anti-glare strip is pretty much comparable to the anti-glare strip of the Sharp screen. They are both somewhat brittle and require a long soak, but believe me it can be done.

The anti-reflective is where I ran into all the problems. When removing the first layer, I had no problems at all. The second layer is where it took a dive . After various lengths of soaks, the thing still came off in little one inch pieces (which didn't really bother me too much), and left all the adhesive behind. Remember when I said that the LG is quite the strong WUXGA? Well that goes for it's adhesive as well. When I removed the anti-reflective on the Sharp, it only left one or two streaks of adhesive behind, and it was really easy to clean up with some water and rubbing. Well, the LG left ALL the adhesive behind, and my fingers were about to start bleeding after three hours of soaking and rubbing to get it off. This happened on both of the LG's.

And I only this far on it before I gave up:



I'm not trying to scare you away from stripping it, I just want you to be better prepared for what you're about to face than I was . Who knows, maybe you won't have the same problems I did .

Oh I'm quite familiar with your LG experiences. Say, maybe I can send you my panel and you can strip it for me since you've so much experience. It just sticks in my head that there was someone said they had a relatively good experience peeling the layers of an LG and it was fairly recently. But, like I said, I may be not remembering things correctly. Thanks for your input!!!

Sure you can send it to me, it might not functional when you get it back though! If you find that successful LG experience, let me know; I'd love to see/read about it.

Sharp-eyed members (well, even not so sharp eyed) will be aware I totally chickened out on attempting the LG epidermal peel. Biding my time and seeking a more friendly wux. Dum-de-dum-de-dooooo . . . <twiddling thumbs>

I threw up my arms in frustration after playing around with a busted LG panel graciously sent to me by Garfing Sharks. Too tough for my taste.