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spyder_meister
Joe;

Thank you for sharing your ideas and hard work with the world! The work you have done is quite impressive. Are you still building the kits to sell? If so, I would like to purchase one. I have downloaded a couple of the files that you have posted, the assembly manual and the easm file.


Thank you again, and keep up the good work!

-Jim
ccsparky
Joe,

First off I just wanted to say WOW! I really like what you have done and would like to purchase the kit.
I found my self thinking, will I really use this and then I thought, who cares, it would be fun just putting it together! I'm sure I'll have fun using it also! smile.gif

I sent an email through the forum and your yahoo address. When you get a chance can you email the information required to make a purchase from you for the kit.
I'm so jazzed about this I've ordered everything I need, all that is left is your kit, the router (which is in stock at the local Lowes) and the nuts, washers and bolts.

Thanks and keep up the excellent work!!!

William
skalhus
hi can u tell me if any of these motors is close to the 200Oz ur talking about,
I dont know what Oz stands for and can translate it! rolleyes.gif

http://www.transmotec.net/PDFCOM/Transmote...ies_86%20mm.pdf
spyder_meister
QUOTE (skalhus @ Sep 20 2006, 10:30 AM) *
hi can u tell me if any of these motors is close to the 200Oz ur talking about,
I dont know what Oz stands for and can translate it! rolleyes.gif

http://www.transmotec.net/PDFCOM/Transmote...ies_86%20mm.pdf



Oz = Ounce = x* N; where N is newton for newton CM.

I'm not sure what x is...
joecnc2006
QUOTE (skalhus @ Sep 20 2006, 11:30 AM) *
hi can u tell me if any of these motors is close to the 200Oz ur talking about,
I dont know what Oz stands for and can translate it! rolleyes.gif

http://www.transmotec.net/PDFCOM/Transmote...ies_86%20mm.pdf



.01 Nm x 141.6112 = .01 in./oz

so the 1st motor the 34H060-4.5v-8a is:
nema 34 motor
4.5 volts
8.0 amp
410 oz/in

I used Nema 23 motors
skalhus
Thx mt`s so the first on would be enough to make it work propperly!
exellent!
skalhus
erm nevermind my reply im drunk!
skalhus
her u can se some 23`s steppers

http://www.transmotec.net/PDFCOM/Transmote...series_57mm.pdf
ccsparky
Hello All

I have been following this topic off an on and decided to join in on all the fun! biggrin.gif
I order Joe's kit a few days ago and have been gathering the parts, so that I'll have everything and be able to get started once the kit arrives.

Here is how it stands so far:

Items I have bought and have on hand:
(4) 5/16” x 2” x 4-1/2” U-Bolts
(8) 7/16“OD x 5/16”ID x 2-3/4” Vinyl Hose (clear)
(12) 10-24x1” screws
(6) 1/4”x9-1/12” threaded rods
(4) 1/4”x38” threaded rods
(4) 1/4”x63” threaded rods
(2) 1/2"-10 Acme Lead screw 6' lengths
(20) 1/2"-10 Acme Nuts
(1) 3/4"x 36” Drill Rod
(3) 1/4" Bore LoveJoy Coupler
(3) Keyway Spiders
(3) 1/2" Bore LoveJoy Coupler
(36) 8mm x 22mm x 7mm Skate Bearings
(6) 1/2"x1-1/8"x5/16" Bearings
(1) HCNCPROPKG 3 Axis Package With (3) 200oz-in Steppers
(1) Suggested transformer
(1) Plastic enclosure for the power supply
(1) Hitachi Router Model: M12VC

Already had on hand:
All of the Nut, Bolts, and Washers
AutoCAD Lt 2006

Items I need to pick up:
(2) 3/4" x 36" Gas pipes
(4) 1" x 60" Gas pipes
1-1/4" x 1-1/4" x 1/8" Aluminum ( 4 - 8", 2 - 7.5", 2 - 6")
Mach 3 Software
Router bits

Does it look like I've got everything pretty well covered or have I missed some items?
What would be a good selection of router bits to pick up?

I'll start posting my progress once I get started.

Thanks!

William
joecnc2006
People have been asking for the diminsions for the Bearing Slides, so I made some simple frawings for them to print out, these are 1:1 so you can print out and use as templete also if needed.

X Axis - 8.00"
Y Axis - 7.50"
Z Axis - 6.00"

Here are PDF Drawings
skalhus
joe mail me the video of ur machine doin some cutting please! =)
to: skalhus@spray.se
Johann Badenhorst
Haai Joe

Please e-mail me the video

Thanx

jdgbadenhorst@yahoo.com
kdvail
Joe. this is just incredible.
joecnc2006
also here is a video of the machine built by an individual, who wanted to see how smooth it was, he used a bobble head on top of the z-axis carriage, he was very pleased.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...scott&hl=en

joe
JimDandy
QUOTE (ccsparky @ Sep 21 2006, 09:07 PM) *
Hello All

I have been following this topic off an on and decided to join in on all the fun! biggrin.gif
I order Joe's kit a few days ago and have been gathering the parts, so that I'll have everything and be able to get started once the kit arrives.

Here is how it stands so far:

Items I have bought and have on hand:
(4) 5/16” x 2” x 4-1/2” U-Bolts
(8) 7/16“OD x 5/16”ID x 2-3/4” Vinyl Hose (clear)
(12) 10-24x1” screws
(6) 1/4”x9-1/12” threaded rods
(4) 1/4”x38” threaded rods
(4) 1/4”x63” threaded rods
(2) 1/2"-10 Acme Lead screw 6' lengths
(20) 1/2"-10 Acme Nuts
(1) 3/4"x 36” Drill Rod
(3) 1/4" Bore LoveJoy Coupler
(3) Keyway Spiders
(3) 1/2" Bore LoveJoy Coupler
(36) 8mm x 22mm x 7mm Skate Bearings
(6) 1/2"x1-1/8"x5/16" Bearings
(1) HCNCPROPKG 3 Axis Package With (3) 200oz-in Steppers
(1) Suggested transformer
(1) Plastic enclosure for the power supply
(1) Hitachi Router Model: M12VC

Already had on hand:
All of the Nut, Bolts, and Washers
AutoCAD Lt 2006

Items I need to pick up:
(2) 3/4" x 36" Gas pipes
(4) 1" x 60" Gas pipes
1-1/4" x 1-1/4" x 1/8" Aluminum ( 4 - 8", 2 - 7.5", 2 - 6")
Mach 3 Software
Router bits

Does it look like I've got everything pretty well covered or have I missed some items?
What would be a good selection of router bits to pick up?

I'll start posting my progress once I get started.

Thanks!

William


William, it looks like you have quite a grocery list there! Would you have a total on it? I am in the beginning phase of building and I would just like another 'price check' if you will on the materials.

Thanks,
JimDandy
JaceMan
I feel like Jessica Simpson talking about HD.

"I totally don't know what I would do with this machine, but I WaUnt it."
ccsparky
QUOTE (JimDandy @ Nov 4 2006, 11:25 AM) *
William, it looks like you have quite a grocery list there! Would you have a total on it? I am in the beginning phase of building and I would just like another 'price check' if you will on the materials.

Thanks,
JimDandy



JimDandy,

You bet!

I will not be back in the office until Tuesday, I'll get you the info hopefully by Wednesday.

William
joecnc2006
Here are some video, sorry for quality all i had was my call phone.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...76196052577205

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...39832248421632

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...41446226194488

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...28530824325363

Also those who asked for video and or price i sent emails, but i got three back as failure, so email ne joecnc2006 at yahoo dot com.

joe
ccsparky
JimDandy,

Hope this makes sence. I did not really shop around to save money as I just do not have the time so I ordered based on information found or provided.


HobbyCNC
3 Axis HCNCPROPKG w/ 200 oz stepper motors $240.00 16.00 (shipping)
Mouser
Power Supply Enclosure $26.70
Allied Electronics
24VAC 10A Triad (Magnetek) Allied Electronics part #9678482 $37.34

onlinemetals
Aluminum Angle
1.25x1.25x.125 8" $2.32 each
1.25x1.25x.125 7.5" $2.18 each
1.25x1.25x.125 6" $1.74 each
$8.35 shipping and $27.00 cut fee
I thought I had a source locally but it turned out to be the wrong size so I used OnlineMetals

McMaster Carr
Aluminum 1/4" coupling $5.51 each
Steel 1/4" coupling $4.48 each
Stainless 1/4" coupling $8.78 each

Home&Beyond
5/16x2x4-1/2 U-Bolts $20.16 for 16

Gas Pipe $65.00 for all (normally I believe this goes for around $90)
Mach III $159.00
Nuts-Bolts On Hand
Vinyl Hose $3.00 (loose hose laying around) True Value

Enco
409-0045 3/4 WATER HARD.DRILLROD 1 $8.19 $8.19 each
408-0220 1/2-10 6'LENGTH ACME THREADED ROD $6.99 each
407-2200 1/2-10 ACME NUTS $.99
990-4044 1/4 BORE NO KW LOVEJOY L050 JAW CPLG HUB $1.97
990-4046 1/2 BORE NO KW LOVEJOY L050 JAW CPLG HUB $1.97
990-4042 BUNA-N SPIDER/L050 HUB L050 JAW SPIDER COUPLING $1.30

www.vxb.com
100 Skate Bearings $29.95
R8ZZ Bearings $14.99

According to FedEX my Joe's CNC Model 2006 will be here on Monday - November 13, 2006 smile.gif
Thanks Joe!

William
dixonlv
I was just introduced to this yesterday (11-20-06) by a friend of mine...

I know you've heard this time and time again...but
All I can say is WOW....This thing ROCKS!!!!



Thanks and keep up the awesome work!!!
JimDandy
Wow very good... Thanks! William.



QUOTE (ccsparky @ Nov 9 2006, 07:57 PM) *
JimDandy,

Hope this makes sence. I did not really shop around to save money as I just do not have the time so I ordered based on information found or provided.
HobbyCNC
3 Axis HCNCPROPKG w/ 200 oz stepper motors $240.00 16.00 (shipping)
Mouser
Power Supply Enclosure $26.70
Allied Electronics
24VAC 10A Triad (Magnetek) Allied Electronics part #9678482 $37.34

onlinemetals
Aluminum Angle
1.25x1.25x.125 8" $2.32 each
1.25x1.25x.125 7.5" $2.18 each
1.25x1.25x.125 6" $1.74 each
$8.35 shipping and $27.00 cut fee
I thought I had a source locally but it turned out to be the wrong size so I used OnlineMetals

McMaster Carr
Aluminum 1/4" coupling $5.51 each
Steel 1/4" coupling $4.48 each
Stainless 1/4" coupling $8.78 each

Home&Beyond
5/16x2x4-1/2 U-Bolts $20.16 for 16

Gas Pipe $65.00 for all (normally I believe this goes for around $90)
Mach III $159.00
Nuts-Bolts On Hand
Vinyl Hose $3.00 (loose hose laying around) True Value

Enco
409-0045 3/4 WATER HARD.DRILLROD 1 $8.19 $8.19 each
408-0220 1/2-10 6'LENGTH ACME THREADED ROD $6.99 each
407-2200 1/2-10 ACME NUTS $.99
990-4044 1/4 BORE NO KW LOVEJOY L050 JAW CPLG HUB $1.97
990-4046 1/2 BORE NO KW LOVEJOY L050 JAW CPLG HUB $1.97
990-4042 BUNA-N SPIDER/L050 HUB L050 JAW SPIDER COUPLING $1.30

www.vxb.com
100 Skate Bearings $29.95
R8ZZ Bearings $14.99

According to FedEX my Joe's CNC Model 2006 will be here on Monday - November 13, 2006 smile.gif
Thanks Joe!

William
JimDandy
Keep us posted with pictures, I enjoy seeing other people building these CNC machines.


QUOTE (ccsparky @ Nov 9 2006, 07:57 PM) *
JimDandy,

Hope this makes sence. I did not really shop around to save money as I just do not have the time so I ordered based on information found or provided.
.
.
.

According to FedEX my Joe's CNC Model 2006 will be here on Monday - November 13, 2006 smile.gif
Thanks Joe!

William
JimDandy
Joe, got a question for you.. I just came across some linear slides that I may be able to get at a good price. Can you give your opinion on them. Looking at the pricing above I would like to get your opinion on any negatives these may have... I have attached a picture of them for reference..

Click to view attachment
Click to view attachment
joecnc2006
I would think they have to much play in them, I would rather use these.

http://cgi.ebay.com/8020-Aluminum-Make-You...oQQcmdZViewItem
with
http://cgi.ebay.com/8020-T-Slot-UHMW-UniBe...oQQcmdZViewItem

to start then cut your own rails inserts (unibearings) from uhmw or delron for a tighter fit.
JimDandy
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Nov 30 2006, 03:39 PM) *
I would think they have to much play in them, I would rather use these.

http://cgi.ebay.com/8020-Aluminum-Make-You...oQQcmdZViewItem
with
http://cgi.ebay.com/8020-T-Slot-UHMW-UniBe...oQQcmdZViewItem

to start then cut your own rails inserts (unibearings) from uhmw or delron for a tighter fit.




Ok, I see what you mean however i have yet another question though.. regarding the friction of the linear bearings that you suggest. Do you think the friction would add any noticable slowing down of the machine? I would be using the 200 oz motors. How much of a difference do you think there would be over the bearing method.

As if you couldn't tell, I am a big fan of the extruded aluminum. I would rather use the stuff, but I dont want to sacrifice performance for it.
joecnc2006
QUOTE (JimDandy @ Dec 2 2006, 12:47 PM) *
Ok, I see what you mean however i have yet another question though.. regarding the friction of the linear bearings that you suggest. Do you think the friction would add any noticable slowing down of the machine? I would be using the 200 oz motors. How much of a difference do you think there would be over the bearing method.

As if you couldn't tell, I am a big fan of the extruded aluminum. I would rather use the stuff, but I dont want to sacrifice performance for it.



If you use silicone spray it should work fine.

yes i agree the ext.- alumn. is very good and easy to build with, wish i had a plethora of it. biggrin.gif
chrishensel
My machine is mostly finished, and I feel like I've spent weeks researching cad/cam programs. I am running mach3, and design in turboCAD. What CAM program do you use? It seems like the cheap programs will make machine times out of control by bad path planning, and the other end is too expensive. Just finding the right software is probably the hardest part of this project.Click to view attachment
joecnc2006
i have used a few, most cost alot, have you tried the LazyCam within Mach3 now? version 2.0 and later.
jjones
Joe,

I've got to tell you, I'm pretty blown away. I would have never thought a CNC Mill/Router was possible. I spent a great deal of time reading each post on both threads! Didn't sleep much last night blink.gif

A couple of questions...

I wasn't able to access all of the content that wasn't on this forum. Have you done any type of video walk around on your latest machine?

Can you offer any other reading recomendations?

Are you making any parts for replicas?

Jim Jones
joecnc2006
QUOTE (jjones @ Jan 9 2007, 10:59 AM) *
Joe,

I've got to tell you, I'm pretty blown away. I would have never thought a CNC Mill/Router was possible. I spent a great deal of time reading each post on both threads! Didn't sleep much last night blink.gif

A couple of questions...

I wasn't able to access all of the content that wasn't on this forum. Have you done any type of video walk around on your latest machine?

Can you offer any other reading recomendations?

Are you making any parts for replicas?

Jim Jones


Here is a link to the files for review.

http://mail.lumenlab.com/~joe2000chevy/CNC_Model_2006_R-1/

and also a link to the machines already built, you will know which ones are mine they will have joe2006, joes model 2006 ect. in the title of the thread usually.

its on the cnczone.

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=209

Joe
joecnc2006
Here is a quick sample of an Engineers seal i cut for test out of a 8"x8" sample of signfoam board. (Cover name and Reg No.) lol
joecnc2006
Here is the seal cut at 16" the machine works well with all the movement up down and all around to do the v-Carving.
JasonD
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 14 2007, 05:01 PM) *
Here is the seal cut at 16" the machine works well with all the movement up down and all around to do the v-Carving.


Looks great!!

Is these ones also capable of doing things like the carveright? http://www.carvewright.com/results.html

I am a general construction contractor with a garage full of tools and want to add a CNC for routing to my collection next biggrin.gif
joecnc2006
QUOTE (JasonD @ Jan 14 2007, 07:08 PM) *
Looks great!!

Is these ones also capable of doing things like the carveright? http://www.carvewright.com/results.html

I am a general construction contractor with a garage full of tools and want to add a CNC for routing to my collection next biggrin.gif


the CarveWrite / Sears is limited to 14" wide. and uses its own software not compatable with others. no DXF import i believe.
joecnc2006
Here is the Final seal, What I did was cut it into 1/2" Birch Ply, used a Foam brush and brushed the stain on making sure to leave a puddle in the cut areas (i was hoping this would leave those ares darker), take a cloth and wipes off excess from top and let dry then sprayed with satin finish poly.
joecnc2006
QUOTE (chrishensel @ Dec 30 2006, 05:27 PM) *
My machine is mostly finished, and I feel like I've spent weeks researching cad/cam programs. I am running mach3, and design in turboCAD. What CAM program do you use? It seems like the cheap programs will make machine times out of control by bad path planning, and the other end is too expensive. Just finding the right software is probably the hardest part of this project.Click to view attachment



Have you tried the Vertic software, V-Carve, PhotoCarve

http://vectric.com/
JasonD
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 14 2007, 10:19 PM) *
the CarveWrite / Sears is limited to 14" wide. and uses its own software not compatable with others. no DXF import i believe.



Yes, you can only use their software from what I read.. But can these homemade ones have the same results? Do they need to be an image made in cad or can a photo or something be imported and carved for example?

Would this router work? I see you use a 2hp one.... would 1 1/4 be much slower? What speed do you cut at mostly? I have a spare plunge router: 1¼-hp, 7A variable-speed motor: 9,000-27,000 rpm that I would like to use if it would work....

Thanks Jason
wyldesyde007
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 14 2007, 09:22 PM) *
Here is the Final seal, What I did was cut it into 1/2" Birch Ply, used a Foam brush and brushed the stain on making sure to leave a puddle in the cut areas (i was hoping this would leave those ares darker), take a cloth and wipes off excess from top and let dry then sprayed with satin finish poly.



After you have put on your clearcoat apply a black glazing paint (found in the decorative house paints section) this is a semi transparent paint which will highlight the cuts and can be wiped off the surface.
jjones
Click to view attachment biggrin.gif
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 14 2007, 09:22 PM) *
Here is the Final seal, What I did was cut it into 1/2" Birch Ply, used a Foam brush and brushed the stain on making sure to leave a puddle in the cut areas (i was hoping this would leave those ares darker), take a cloth and wipes off excess from top and let dry then sprayed with satin finish poly.


Joe, A question and a comment.

What bit are you using for the carving of these seals?

What I've done in the past for accenting carved letters is to paint the entire surface (letters and all) the colors you want the letter to be and then sand the surface to remove the paint. With care, you can leave a sharp, well defined edge. The can is for size reference biggrin.gif

Jim
joecnc2006
Here is the second Seal in the series, both Seals will be framed and have a cloth background, I will take a picture when finished and hung.

Joe
joecnc2006
QUOTE (wyldesyde007 @ Jan 15 2007, 04:26 AM) *
After you have put on your clearcoat apply a black glazing paint (found in the decorative house paints section) this is a semi transparent paint which will highlight the cuts and can be wiped off the surface.


I will try this and what jjones sugested, However on these carves i did not want to carves black i guess i could have used a brown, but what i did was use the foam brush and let a puddle sit in the lettering areas and dry, while i wiped the top surface as you do in regular staining.

This effect gave me a more rustic type look i wanted.

Joe
joecnc2006
QUOTE (JasonD @ Jan 14 2007, 10:59 PM) *
Yes, you can only use their software from what I read.. But can these homemade ones have the same results? Do they need to be an image made in cad or can a photo or something be imported and carved for example?

Would this router work? I see you use a 2hp one.... would 1 1/4 be much slower? What speed do you cut at mostly? I have a spare plunge router: 1¼-hp, 7A variable-speed motor: 9,000-27,000 rpm that I would like to use if it would work....

Thanks Jason


I usually cut 10,000 to 14,000 rpm, a for a small machine the 1.25hp will work, but for a larger machine you need something with more power, or you have to make alot of shallow cuts.

For carving i mostly use a 1/2" 60deg v-bit. sometimes a 90 deg. bit.

If you look at the www.Vertic.com page alot of the work done with this software is on DIY machines, yes you use cad and/or pictures, artwork.

i can cut anything the Carvewrite can cut on my machine, plus have more versital for alot more different cutting.
JasonD
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 15 2007, 11:19 PM) *
i can cut anything the Carvewrite can cut on my machine



Thanks! You have sold me on one of your setups soon biggrin.gif
JasonD
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 15 2007, 11:19 PM) *
If you look at the www.Vertic.com page alot of the work done with this software is on DIY machines, yes you use cad and/or pictures, artwork.



I dont think thats the right address? Giving me some business website? www.Vertic.com
biskit2
QUOTE (JasonD @ Jan 17 2007, 12:42 PM) *
I dont think thats the right address? Giving me some business website? www.Vertic.com


Try www.vectric.com
mikyd1954
hey joe and the rest of you cnc guys.... I have a quick question....have any of you cut acrylic? is it hard to polish afterwards? the reason I ask is that a few of us have talked about a patent we found don the net that discusses combining the output of 2 lamps into a pj by using an array of 60 degree prisms...think a fresnel lens, but with straight grooves instead of circular...and I was wondering how small the cnc machines can go? I envision maybe a bit with a really small point and 60 degree sides just cutting a series of adjacent grooves in a sheet of acrylic therby creating an array of small 60 degree prisms.....this would just be for testing purposes, but if the theory panned out we could probably get a group buy to create a specialized fresnel type mold.... so if its possible to polish acrylic(no idea on that) and if a bit like that exists.....well.... smile.gif the smallest equilateral triangle rod we can find is 3/8" which might be small enough to test the theory, but obviously a more accurate test could be made with a much smaller prism(1/16th"?).... anyb of you guys have an idea?

edit: it just occurred to me that maybe I should have put this in a seperate topic...if you think so let me know and I can move it....
DAZZZLA
QUOTE (mikyd1954 @ Jan 17 2007, 10:38 PM) *
hey joe and the rest of you cnc guys.... I have a quick question....have any of you cut acrylic? is it hard to polish afterwards? the reason I ask is that a few of us have talked about a patent we found don the net that discusses combining the output of 2 lamps into a pj by using an array of 60 degree prisms...think a fresnel lens, but with straight grooves instead of circular...and I was wondering how small the cnc machines can go? I envision maybe a bit with a really small point and 60 degree sides just cutting a series of adjacent grooves in a sheet of acrylic therby creating an array of small 60 degree prisms.....this would just be for testing purposes, but if the theory panned out we could probably get a group buy to create a specialized fresnel type mold.... so if its possible to polish acrylic(no idea on that) and if a bit like that exists.....well.... smile.gif the smallest equilateral triangle rod we can find is 3/8" which might be small enough to test the theory, but obviously a more accurate test could be made with a much smaller prism(1/16th"?).... anyb of you guys have an idea?

edit: it just occurred to me that maybe I should have put this in a seperate topic...if you think so let me know and I can move it....

I just had a thought after I posted my last PM to you.

The polishing could be done using two of these fresnel prisms. Once the cnc has cut two it may be possible to use some polish between the two and simply rub them together. Or perhaps cut one using a harder material and use the same process. Similar to how hand made lenses are polished

DJ
mikyd1954
actually joe et al...if its not feasible to polish acrylic, dazzz in his pm to me mentioned a metal mold.... seems to me that would be possible on a cnc machine wouldn't it? at least we know metal is polishable smile.gif
JasonD
QUOTE (biskit2 @ Jan 17 2007, 06:14 AM) *
Try www.vectric.com



Thanks smile.gif
ccsparky
Hello Joe,

Your seals look great! I've got some questions if you don't mind.

Do you use the sign foam prior to all of your cuts?
Did you design the seal in AutoCAD? If so how do you put the lettering in a circular pattern? I've got books and will start looking through them later today.

I'm getting very close to having my machine up and running, hopefully by this weekend. Still working on the electronics end of it. I'll probably start a plog here and post all of my pictures from CNCZone.

Thanks for everything! wink.gif

William
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