joecnc2006
Jan 9 2006, 04:25 AM
Finished cutting the Bottom Torsion box ribs, they fit very tight and all even.
joecnc2006
Jan 12 2006, 02:31 AM
got a chance to finish the bottom torsion box. it weights only 46.5 lbs.
jcav
Jan 12 2006, 04:53 PM
very nice, i'm in the starting process of getting all of the parts to build one myself.
what software are you using?
joecnc2006
Jan 13 2006, 06:07 AM
QUOTE (jcav @ Jan 12 2006, 10:53 AM)

very nice, i'm in the starting process of getting all of the parts to build one myself.
what software are you using?
cadd to draw the machine or the cnc control software?
Joe
joecnc2006
Jan 13 2006, 06:07 AM
I took a video with a webcam (all i had at this time) the machine cutting at 80ipm one of the bottom gantry torsion box ribs. it is 8.9meg so i guess i can e-mail if you let me know where to send.
Joe
wyldesyde007
Jan 13 2006, 11:14 AM
i'd like to see it joe, ronsam3j@bellsouth.net
Spat
Jan 13 2006, 03:09 PM
I,d love to see that alose if you don't mind...
patrick@choquette-mousseau.com
thanks
jefftt
Jan 13 2006, 08:42 PM
ME TOO! thorsgaardATsrt.com
joecnc2006
Jan 14 2006, 02:12 AM
sent, let me know what ya think.
Joe
joecnc2006
Jan 14 2006, 03:22 AM
I was able to finish cutting out the last couple of parts for the Gantry Bottom Torsion Box.
joecnc2006
Jan 14 2006, 04:56 AM
Gantry Bottom Torsion Box Complete.
jefftt
Jan 14 2006, 06:24 AM
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 13 2006, 08:12 PM)

... let me know what ya think.
Joe
about the video:
Hey, JOE! That's pretty sweet! I like the vacuum skirting.. You gots some major speed advantages o'er mine...going by the video, if ya slow it down to a quarter speed, that's MY machine
'scuse me for not reading all the forums, but what's the plan here? - ya gonna make the rig, then sell plans, or kits? or..?
On the Projector front: I secured a 20" monitor.. Little afraid of it since it's a newbie project, and 20 inchers are experimental.. I don't know the specs, but I'll find out, since my best buddy's a computer tech guru (who's selling me the monitor) After some readin', I might end up trading(?) with someone for a 15"(?) on the trading post portion..
joecnc2006
Jan 14 2006, 06:47 AM
QUOTE (jefftt @ Jan 14 2006, 12:24 AM)

about the video:
Hey, JOE! That's pretty sweet! I like the vacuum skirting.. You gots some major speed advantages o'er mine...going by the video, if ya slow it down to a quarter speed, that's MY machine
'scuse me for not reading all the forums, but what's the plan here? - ya gonna make the rig, then sell plans, or kits? or..?
On the Projector front: I secured a 20" monitor.. Little afraid of it since it's a newbie project, and 20 inchers are experimental.. I don't know the specs, but I'll find out, since my best buddy's a computer tech guru (who's selling me the monitor) After some readin', I might end up trading(?) with someone for a 15"(?) on the trading post portion..
I will be able to cut the parts for people and make a list of hardware that would be needed to complete it, the less i would have to ship the cheaper it would be, most everything else came from Enco so it can be had from one place and very cheap, I will put together a price list for everything parts I will provide and the other parts needed so people will know what the total cost would be around.
Joe
pagercam
Jan 14 2006, 08:01 AM
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 13 2006, 09:47 PM)

I will be able to cut the parts for people and make a list of hardware that would be needed to complete it, the less i would have to ship the cheaper it would be, most everything else came from Enco so it can be had from one place and very cheap, I will put together a price list for everything parts I will provide and the other parts needed so people will know what the total cost would be around.
Joe
What sort of total price for everything: your parts, locally source HW, motors and controller???
Meskalitto
Jan 14 2006, 02:25 PM
Hi Joe!
Great job. You are a ture inspiration to me. I made a cnc router too based on your designs. I can post some pictures of my machine if you like. I would also like to see the video of your machine cutting at 80ipm

at jetijs@emuprim.lv
BTW I'm from Latvia (Europe) so sorry about my english!
joecnc2006
Jan 14 2006, 07:33 PM
QUOTE (Meskalitto @ Jan 14 2006, 08:25 AM)

Hi Joe!
Great job. You are a ture inspiration to me. I made a cnc router too based on your designs. I can post some pictures of my machine if you like. I would also like to see the video of your machine cutting at 80ipm

at jetijs@emuprim.lv
BTW I'm from Latvia (Europe) so sorry about my english!
yea post some pictures in the cnc section here, start a post on yours, if you have build pictures.
Thanks, Joe
ps video send
joecnc2006
Jan 14 2006, 07:34 PM
QUOTE (pagercam @ Jan 14 2006, 02:01 AM)

What sort of total price for everything: your parts, locally source HW, motors and controller???
I will be working that up as soon as i finish this build.
Joe
wyldesyde007
Jan 15 2006, 04:32 AM
Awsome video Joe! dang it I got to get building version 1, took out all my parts last nite quick question though Joe. I've sorted the parts out and know where they go except for 4 blocks which have a large center hole and 1/8" holes drilled in each corner what are those? motor spacers?
joecnc2006
Jan 15 2006, 05:26 AM
QUOTE (wyldesyde007 @ Jan 14 2006, 10:32 PM)

Awsome video Joe! dang it I got to get building version 1, took out all my parts last nite quick question though Joe. I've sorted the parts out and know where they go except for 4 blocks which have a large center hole and 1/8" holes drilled in each corner what are those? motor spacers?
Motor spacers should be three unless i put one to many in, can you take a picture and e-mail to me?
Thanks, joe
foamcows
Jan 15 2006, 08:04 AM
can i have that vid joe? foamcows@yahoo dot com
FastCote
Jan 15 2006, 01:50 PM
Thanks for the video Joe. (and for all the email assistance lately)
Looks like you are doing multi-pass in that video just to cut out a basic shape. Is that necessary with your new machine?
foxy2000
Jan 15 2006, 03:16 PM
I'd love a peek at that vid too Joe..
thanks in advance
mr.fox@virgin.net
joecnc2006
Jan 15 2006, 03:54 PM
QUOTE (FastCote @ Jan 15 2006, 07:50 AM)

Thanks for the video Joe. (and for all the email assistance lately)
Looks like you are doing multi-pass in that video just to cut out a basic shape. Is that necessary with your new machine?
A lot of cam programs i have noticed has a default of 0.15" stepdowns for the 1/4" bit so i left it at that.
you can go deeper, but i always like to be safe, as you see it does not take to long to cut parts out.
I will see if i can find a chart for this.
Joe
Meskalitto
Jan 15 2006, 07:56 PM
Just had the chance to watch the movie file.

A truly incredible speed. Awesome!!! My router makes a full path on y axis form one end to another in 5 minutes at full speed. My motors run ar 120rpm at highest speeds. Are your motors faster or is it the leadscrew's, that makes such speed possible?
Great job!
joecnc2006
Jan 15 2006, 09:01 PM
QUOTE (Meskalitto @ Jan 15 2006, 01:56 PM)

Just had the chance to watch the movie file.

A truly incredible speed. Awesome!!! My router makes a full path on y axis form one end to another in 5 minutes at full speed. My motors run ar 120rpm at highest speeds. Are your motors faster or is it the leadscrew's, that makes such speed possible?
Great job!
My second machine cut at 40ipm so i would think you would be able to cut at that speed.
what is your power supply you are using, motors and leadscrew?
it is a combination of things to gain speed.
1. power supply (mine is 33.7vdc 10a)
2. amps of motors (mine are 3a)
3. leadscrews (mine are 1/2"10tpi I bought two for 6.99 each and the nuts I used in my antibacklash are .99 each)
Joe
Meskalitto
Jan 15 2006, 09:38 PM
Hmm,
I use dynamo 3 Axis stepper system from www.stepperworld.com
The motors run at only 3.3v and are powered by regular computer power suply. I don't know about amps.
The leadscrew's I use are 8mm in diameter with 1.2mm step. That way the axis moves about 1,2mm per one motor revolution. I guess I will have to buy the hobbycnc motors and board for my new design in order to achieve more speed.
joecnc2006
Jan 15 2006, 09:54 PM
QUOTE (Meskalitto @ Jan 15 2006, 03:38 PM)

Hmm,
I use dynamo 3 Axis stepper system from www.stepperworld.com
The motors run at only 3.3v and are powered by regular computer power suply. I don't know about amps.
The leadscrew's I use are 8mm in diameter with 1.2mm step. That way the axis moves about 1,2mm per one motor revolution. I guess I will have to buy the hobbycnc motors and board for my new design in order to achieve more speed.

One problem is the power supply you should atleast use 24vdc, to get the preformance out of the motors, the controllor and motors should be fine, do you have the model and model of motors? link?
Joe
SnakeDragon
Jan 15 2006, 10:34 PM
Hello Joe,
Awesome project!!! I have only locked at the pictures you have posted and I can only say R E S P E C T ! ! !
I would really like a copy of the video, please send it to thomas.jacobson@brevet.nu
Good luck!!
Regards
TJ
Meskalitto
Jan 15 2006, 10:40 PM
Check out the dynamo system from
http://www.stepperworld.com, that's what I have.
I also just sent you the whole documentation of this system I've got per e-mail. Please let me know what you think about it!
Thank's.
SPK
Jan 16 2006, 04:25 AM
Hats off to you Joe. Your new CNC looks like a machine to have.
The video shows the results.
Keep up the good work.
PS
Thanks for the tip on the LCD kit.
joecnc2006
Jan 16 2006, 04:58 AM
QUOTE (SPK @ Jan 15 2006, 10:25 PM)

Hats off to you Joe. Your new CNC looks like a machine to have.
The video shows the results.
Keep up the good work.
PS
Thanks for the tip on the LCD kit.
Thanks, And i have to return the compliment on your DIY RPTV...
joecnc2006
Jan 16 2006, 04:58 AM
Here are the CNC Router Support End pieces, weight is 10lbs each side.
jefftt
Jan 16 2006, 05:04 AM
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 15 2006, 09:54 AM)

A lot of cam programs i have noticed has a default of 0.15" stepdowns for the 1/4" bit so i left it at that.
you can go deeper, but i always like to be safe, as you see it does not take to long to cut parts out.
I will see if i can find a chart for this.
Joe
I'm currently working on redrawing the [Haas Box] parts in my program. (for me to cut)... I
STILL wanna cast them in aluminum...

...mebbe add fins on top..? heh heh
foxy2000
Jan 16 2006, 03:00 PM
Joe
thanks for sending me the vid!
While my girlfriend thought i had lost my marbles, i enjoyed a great bit of routing porn

seriously good work man
Spat
Jan 16 2006, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the video Joe... Very inspiring!
How big is the bed? what's the biggest piece you can lay there?
joecnc2006
Jan 16 2006, 04:22 PM
QUOTE (Spat @ Jan 16 2006, 09:12 AM)

Thanks for the video Joe... Very inspiring!
How big is the bed? what's the biggest piece you can lay there?
Cutting area is 25"x48"x7" now
Looper1
Jan 16 2006, 05:02 PM
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 16 2006, 11:22 AM)

Cutting area is 25"x48"x7" now
Thanks Joe. I am still amazed that you can build a cnc out of mdf
MM
xscsime
Jan 16 2006, 07:46 PM
Joe,
I'm the guy that was asking how big a machine it took to cut out your new router. Rather than splice it up, due to table size limitations, I'm thinking I could get it cut out on some local machine. So If you would place me in line for a copy of the g code and drawings I would appreciate it. Just let me know what I owe you and I'll send you some money (paypal). Also, I would like to see the video too.
Thanks,
Rick
Spat
Jan 16 2006, 08:42 PM
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 16 2006, 04:22 PM)

Cutting area is 25"x48"x7" now
Thanks... other question...
What do you use to hold the part in place...
i can see side bars, do you use any other parts to fix smaller pieces?
joecnc2006
Jan 16 2006, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (Spat @ Jan 16 2006, 02:42 PM)

Thanks... other question...
What do you use to hold the part in place...
i can see side bars, do you use any other parts to fix smaller pieces?
right now because i cut from 24"x48" pieces i use clamps on the outside, but when I finish this one I will have 4 miter channels screwed down to the table top into the torsion box ribs. since the channels are 1/2" tall, i can then used 3/4" mdf in between them to alow 1/4" cutting surface above it. here is a picture of what i mean and the pieces on either side of it instead of 1/2" like they have i will have the 3/4"
wyldesyde007
Jan 16 2006, 09:16 PM
Hey Joe question for ya, i'm starting up my cnc now (finally) and have been kicking around putting the gantry lead screw to the side rather than down the middle if the unit is rigid enough that should not cause a problem right? my reasoning is then i could have an open bottom unit which I could just plunk down on a full sheet of material 4X8 and move it to another section to cut more parts without having to resize the sheet.
joecnc2006
Jan 16 2006, 10:00 PM
QUOTE (wyldesyde007 @ Jan 16 2006, 03:16 PM)

Hey Joe question for ya, i'm starting up my cnc now (finally) and have been kicking around putting the gantry lead screw to the side rather than down the middle if the unit is rigid enough that should not cause a problem right? my reasoning is then i could have an open bottom unit which I could just plunk down on a full sheet of material 4X8 and move it to another section to cut more parts without having to resize the sheet.
You would need to install a leadscrew on both sides and then run a belt drive system to it, it will twist on you if you try it on one side only.
Joe
wyldesyde007
Jan 17 2006, 12:00 AM
i wondered about that, i had been looking at a belt system from grainger
joecnc2006
Jan 18 2006, 02:08 PM
QUOTE (wyldesyde007 @ Jan 16 2006, 03:16 PM)

Hey Joe question for ya, i'm starting up my cnc now (finally) and have been kicking around putting the gantry lead screw to the side rather than down the middle if the unit is rigid enough that should not cause a problem right? my reasoning is then i could have an open bottom unit which I could just plunk down on a full sheet of material 4X8 and move it to another section to cut more parts without having to resize the sheet.
When you want to use 1 motor and your leadscrew are not in the middle , then you have a problem. Here you can see an easy solution for this problem. The red and green lines are small steel cables and the rollers are as here below.
wyldesyde007
Jan 18 2006, 10:34 PM
Nice setup but it defeats the purpose of moving the leads to the outside of the gantry area, your cables would still cross into the cut path. What I was envisioning was an open bottom structure as would be on a unit that was using a plasma or gas cutting system, you wouldn't want any hardware under the cutting apparatus. with an open bottom unit you could feasibly set it down on a full 4X8 sheet of material and move it around as you cut parts from it this way you could get a higher material yield by not having to cut your 4X8 into pieces small enough to fit between the gantry uprights.
wasted_druid
Jan 18 2006, 11:05 PM
Turn the entire machine upside-down and put long legs on it.
wyldesyde007
Jan 19 2006, 01:49 AM
NOw that was some original thinking! that would actually work ;-)
rodbotic
Jan 21 2006, 10:58 PM
QUOTE (wyldesyde007 @ Jan 18 2006, 05:49 PM)

NOw that was some original thinking! that would actually work ;-)
kableschlepits not cheap and it isn't origianl but
it works
I use it on the cnc machine I build at work all the time
I'll have to grab some photos for you guys I used to hang around the zone
a bit too I just don't have time anymore
but need less to say I build cnc machine
that are basicly a upright cnc lathe with x being 26" y 36" and A is rotary
running a 5/8" carbide cutter that is 11" long
www.bobcat.ca/stuff/carver.jpg
is a pic of a older machine we used to build with a themro forming oven on top
joecnc2006
Jan 22 2006, 04:57 AM
QUOTE (rodbotic @ Jan 21 2006, 04:58 PM)

kableschlep
its not cheap and it isn't origianl but
it works
I use it on the cnc machine I build at work all the time
I'll have to grab some photos for you guys I used to hang around the zone
a bit too I just don't have time anymore
but need less to say I build cnc machine
that are basicly a upright cnc lathe with x being 26" y 36" and A is rotary
running a 5/8" carbide cutter that is 11" long
www.bobcat.ca/stuff/carver.jpg
is a pic of a older machine we used to build with a themro forming oven on top
like to see more, maybe start a post here in the cnc section here.
Joe
SnakeDragon
Jan 23 2006, 03:28 PM
How is it going with your CNC project Joe? Haven't seen any new pictures in ... 8 days now....! Or, maybe I'm just spoiled

We are all waiting for an update of your lovely project

OT: I would be pleased if I could see the video of your masterpiece. My e-mail is thomas.jacobson@brevet.nu
Regards,
TJ
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