For a new 17" project, im wondering if there are any LCDs that can display 720p or even 1080p?

most if not all 17" monitors = 1280 x 1024

EDIT: see post below.

Ok, so all 17" have 720p capability.

My 15" benq is 1024x768 but will not display 720p, this because the screen is 1024, and it requires 1280.

Are there any good 15.4" widescreen monitors, that actually display 1280x720 HDTV quality. I think i read about one but the colour was poor. Plus can i still use the standard kit or would i have get larger fresnels too.

you can get 1600x1200 out of the sgi panal but they are expensive.

which panel is that, the one minoten was selling?

I don't know if minoten is selling this monitor, but a guy named Cruser does. It comes prestripped with an adapter board (which is why it's so expensive) to convert the monitor into DVI from its native input. Anyway, its more than worth the price IMHO. There's several people in this forum who are using it, with no complaints as far as I know.

If i built a PJ ready for the pro lenses, 17"lcd, pro fresnels, correct dimensions, but used the 80mm triplet until the pro one became available, what would be the result??

Just found this at lunch....anyone seen it, is it any good, can it be stripped?

Hyundai ImageQuest B70A 17" LCD Monitor (MO-026-HY)
Hyundai's new 17 Inch Multiscanning LCD Monitor with high quality screen rescaling capability and Image Color Matching Profile.

- 1280x1024 Optimum Resolution --- nice
- 700:1 Contrast Ratio ---nice
- Viewing Angle 150° horizontal, 135° vertical
- 8ms Response Time --- nice
- 300 cd/m2 Brightness ---????
- One Analogue Input
- 3 Years On-Site Warranty

Available This Week Only for just £142.95 +VAT. --- not bad

Just be sure the box is long enough. The standard triplet (320mm FL) and field fresnel (317mm FL) have the same basic FL, but the new pro triplet and pro field fresnel will have corresponding FL's that are around 500mm. When you convert to the new pro triplet you will move the triplet to the new 500mm dimension and install the new field fresnel which will direct light to that position... so basically leave room to move the triplet forward 180mm. These dimensions are approximate, but you should get the idea.

Sorry, forgot you were talking widescreen. If you want 720p any 17" will do that with black bars top and bottom. The black bars will be bigger than with a 15" at 1024 x 768 because 4:3 is closer to 16:9 than 5:4 is (5:4 = 1280 / 1024). 1080i requires 1920, which is just crazy. Even the SGI panel won't do true 1080i. In fact you would have to buy a 23" monitor to get true 1080i and I'm not even certain the pro fresnels would support it.

There aren't many 15" widescreen monitors and I don't think they fit the regular fresnels anyway (not certain on that). But if you're running the pro lens kit, then just get a 17" widescreen monitor (most are 1280 x 768 which is 16:10, so small black bars even in widescreen mode, but close enough). They aren't all that expensive I don't think.

The 17" monitor I'd recommend to you is the Samsung 712N for sure, it has awesome specs and a great price.

Contrast ratio: 600:1

Response time: 12ms (< crazy )

Native resolution: 1280x1024

More then you could possibly need.

I agree, those are nicely spec'ed.

Im looking at these for now, cant find the 712n in the UK, well, not through google anyways:

Samsung SM713N - 8ms, 600:1, 16.2mil

Hyundai ImageQuest B70A - 8ms, 700:1

Benq FP71G 17" - 12ms, 500:1, 24bit,

Samsung SM710TM - DVI, 600:1, 12ms, 16.2m colours

Benq FP71E+ - 8ms, 600:1 (might be 500:1), 24-bit, DVI

Acer AL1722HS - 8ms, 700:1, DVI

All the response times re good, so are the contrast ratios although the higher the better i believe. The DVI would be a plus, but im more concerned with the colours. some say 16.2 million, where others say 16.7million/24-bit, which i presume is superior, and im wondering how much difference it makes?

Wow that list awesome, thanks, I'll be checkin those out.

In all fairness id happily use any of them, but i dont want to choose one thats got a nasty ffc issue or similar.

Im going to start a plog soon, so which everone i get, you will be able to see how it turns out, but we warned, when it comes to decisions, i usally mess up and get something with a hidden problem

I am still a little leery about 16.2 million color monitors. What they do is do some funky pixel blurring and blending to make the other half a million colors to get to true 16.7 million colors.

It just seems like another place to get lag/ghosting to me.

Well, it seems very few 17" lcd's have true 24-bit, after searching through the manufacuers websites.

Ive found this, i havent found out whether its 24 bit, but this looks good, not that cheap though at around £200

Viewsonic VP171s - Click here

Does anyone know of any issues with viewsonic monitors, has anyone used one before.

The main reason i like it is that it mentions 720p compatable, where many sites dont quote 1280x720p as a standard display resolution. Oh, plus it can alter the horizontal size, meaning i can make it work with standard LL lens easier.

http://3btech.net/paixmy17wilc.html

not sure if it will work but this monitor has good specs? also has alot of inputs on it.

seems quite nice, may be issues while stripping, or there may not, Thing is i cant buy it in the UK...which sucks...if i wanted it

I have just done a stripdown on the BENQ FP71E+

specs are

500:1 contrast
brite 300
8 mS

DVI and mini sub input

very easy and no FCC probs at all

I used the plate that covered the FCC PCB board and attached it to the metal surround that holds the LCD, so panel and FCC's are as one, pic attached

I have yet to see a Benq monitor that was 24 bit. When you see these fast response times you can count on it not being 24 bit. The dell 1704FPV is 24 bit color, 1000:1 contrast ratio, but 25ms response time. The Dell 1704FPT is 16.2 million colors with dithering, 500:1 contrast ratio, and 12ms response time. I would say you want to get the lcd that best suits your usage as no one monitor can do it all without sacrificing a little on either gaming or movies.

To answer your first question Minoten had a group but on an $$ lcd/controller $$ package that would handle 1080p. If there is enough interest in this he may start a new group but in the future.

You said that any 17" lcd will display the black bars on top and bottom. I just want to know how you would do that for a hyundai l72s lcd. I've tried everything I could think of with powerstrip with no luck.

It is very wierd. I actually had black bars on top and bottom (samsung 711T) before, straight from windows settings. (Perfect 1280 x 768 and 1280 x 720 on desktop.) I think it is after I updated my ati drivers or monitor.. that I get resizing no matter what I do. I tried powerstrip too, like several settings but all of them resulted in resizing.

I have found that I need to use the older ATI drivers for Powerstrip to work properly. Cataylst v5.1 or earlier seems to work with Powerstip. v5.2 and newer do not. I have the CMV-520D, but I believe the drivers are the important thing in getting the LCD to display 16:9 correctly.