Now that I'm no longer using my projector in my classroom, I set it up for summer to watch movies at home.

I want to get the most out of the image and there are a few questions I have. SIMJEDI has helped me out quite a bit so far. My setup goes from a DVD > N6 > LCD, I recently changed over to Monster Ultra cables and they made quite a bit of difference in quality.

So here are my questions...

1. I play a DVD at 480p, but I still get the some squiggely lines (most apparent at things with sharp edges such as the opening credits for Star Wars) I'm just using a regular monitor. Is there a way to get rid of these? Would switching over to a Computer help out that much? It was suggested leaving it at 480i and let the N6 do the handling, but it looked worse this way.

2. I went to Circuit City and the sales rep told me the LG DVD player will output 720p over component, from what I've read so far, this is not possible. But he said he checked the manual for another customer and it was there. Question is, since I'm using a regular monitor 1024X768, would a 720p signa even make my image any better?

Right now I have my fresnels incased in glass, I'm going to take the glass out after reading how much better and brighter the image looks when it is taken out. Hopefully that will take away from the squiggley lines (sorry I don't know what that is called).

Thanks

Boggs

I can't speak for hte N6, but I know that with my PC, the image comes out very nicely, without much if any apparent jaggies. They're there if I walk up to the screen and start inspecting pixels, but not noticable while watching a movie.

I think he's referring to the "screen door" affect. Having the fresnels split on in front of the LCD causes this.

Its not that I see individual pixels (this is what I refer to as screen door). I notice even when I watch DVD's on regular TV. Where ever there is a straight line, it sometimes looks jagged. I just don't know what the actual term is. I'm sure someone else on here has seen this.

I finished retooling my frames today to handle just hte fresnels and not the glass, I'll let everyone know how it went when I try them out tonight.

I think your problem is the N6 trying to process anything in 480i/P with component input. I have seen exactly what you are talking about with my N6. I am still trying to determine if it is just a poorly engineered crap product, or if they have major quality problems, and a large percentage are defective. Viewsonic is sending me my 3rd one.

See my post HERE to discuss N6 problems.

d. All of the above.


peace

the absolute best way to do it, in my opinion, is to just drive it with a computer. Then you can use the DVI, and your computer video card will do the scaling in a much better way than a "black box" solution will. And you can game on that baby!

But what about if you want to hook up your cable or satelite and run it through your N6? Is there any other solution to watch live tv other than N6? Sorry if this is a beginner question... but if the shoe fits.

Chris

There are other boxes out there that do the same thing, but unless your monitor has TV inputs, then that's pretty much the only option you have.

Maybe I'm confused with what you're looking for, but can't a TV video card allow you to watch tv live? Or is the resolution too poor?

its TV, the resolution is going to be poor. TV tuner cards and/or video cards will do their own upscaling and look way better than anything the N6 can do though.

DVDs should look great. The problem is that you're probably doing the regular red/white/yellow component output which is designed for regular TVs at crap resolution. Have you tried S-Video? I know the N6 does it, and your DVD player should too. It might help (idle speculation on my part, not fact).

Do you have the ability to run dvd's directly from your computer? That would eliminate the N6 as a variable. I had some issues with the N6 with horrible interlacing problems at the edges of objects on the screen(things like moving text etc).

(the picture below is just an example of what I was getting on bits of the screen. The whole screen wasn't like that)
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?s...indpost&p=63669

It is my opinion that the N6 is either overhyped or there a select few that have gotten ones that actually work. Having switched to my computer as a source, the quality difference is drastic. The only issues I've had with interlacing are with video sources on dvd but I fixed that with ffdshow.

not sure if that helps or just rubs your face in your current condition..

-Jude

After finishing my projector, i started with my dvd --> n6 --> lcd. I was not happy with the results..

I changed my setup to drive everything with a pc, and have been much happier. I use the n6 to hook my PS2 to the pj, and watch movies on the PC. I think the PC setup wins, hands down, but like everything else, it's all subjective.

I think it would benefit you to try both setups, and decide which is better yourself. Some people swear by the N6, and others the PC route.

Best of luck...

I think those that swear by the N6 have a much higher tolerance for poor picture quality. To me the N6 is completely unacceptable.

how did u get your class room dark enough to see the projector at day time???? what did the kids say? ...can we see a pic of ur class room and the pj?/....what did u use it for in the class room?....what ages u teach?

Sorry Dingle, I stopped doing projector stuff for a few months. Had to get married, go back to work, etc.. etc... Now I'm getting back into the projector.

To answer your questions, my kids thought it was really neat. I teach science, specifically physics, so my kids are kinda dorky and think things like this are cool. The ages of my students are 15 to 18.

I had to block out my windows to get my room dark enough, and unfortunately, I do not have a picture. I don't use it in the class anymore because we got Infocus projectors with out book adoption, and as much as I enjoy my projector, the infocus is much more easy to handle.

We used my projector for power point presentations and watching movies.

Right now my brother-in-law has it and will probably buy if off me, I want to start on the pro version as soon as I get some extra cash (I'm on a teacher salary), but I use is just at home.

Boggs

The n6 isnt very good, but outside of spending 250-300 for a centerstage (which i wont), or buying a new monitor that letterboxs 720p (which i wont), I have no option.

I believe the "jagged" effect your are taking about is aliasing, see here. It is most common in 3D games and applications, but video and other forms of digital media are affected as well, although to a lesser extent due to the nature of the process of recording images that are in the real world vs. computer generated(I think). This aliasing could be due to the N6 output resolution set to low. Also, be sure you are sending it a PROGRESSIVE signal over PyBpR (red, green, blue) component cables. As I am sure you already know, you cannot send 480p over S-video, composite, or RF. I, myself, am not a fan of the N6, but I have never seen a real problem with 480p. Do not let the N6 do the de-interlacing, as I am CONVINCED it lacks a de-interlacer at all! DishNetwork over my CS-1 vs. the N6 is NIGHT and DAY. I don't know how anyone can stomach the N6 with interlaced sources, it is simply horrible. Other things you could do to get the best image quality on your existing PJ would be to swap/add the new Pro reflector, or any at all if you have none at the moment. Or tweak your light placement... and last but not least, remove the antiglare. Good luck!


Yoder

A few people have had good results with the Phillips Ebox, with a little software hacking(easy stuff with the remote). They can be found cheaper than the CS-1. Might find the guys on here that bought them. Now, if you want a real mean box, get the iScan VP30... Thats a beast...

Yoder

Perhaps the 'jaggies' are the artifacts caused from 3:2 pull down.

http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report..._2_pulldown.htm