Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Hyundai L72S
Lumenlab > Community Interests > Product Reviews
Pages: 1, 2
venery99
Does anyone know if the Hyundai L72S has any ffc issues or any other issues.

Specifications

Display Type a -si TFT Active Matrix
Viewable Screen Size 17 inches
Pixel Pitch 0.264 mm
Display Area 337.92 mm x 270.336 mm
Contrast Ratio 700:1
Response Time 8 ms
Maximum Resolution 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz
jmrguy
Seriously, it has some nice specs. I am looking into getting one of these, but would like to know if it will strip properly or has any issues.

Has anyone worked with any of the Hyundai screens?
jmrguy
OK, well I just bought one of these off of TigerDirect for $209 After Rebate.

I will report back on any stripping issues when it arrives.
cmolson6
I would also like to know how this monitor does with stripping. Thanks!
jmrguy
I just got it today. I have to get my computer running first, because I want to make sure the LCD has no dead pixeks before I void the warrenty. I should have pics in the next few days.
venery99
That's great keep me updated.
jmrguy
WOW! This is a nice moniter! I can't imagine what a higher contrast would look like. The response is amazing also. No dead pixels. I am definately buying one of these to use for my computer. I started looking at how it is put together. I haven't stripped it yet, but it looks like it will be relatively straight forward.
Dingle
QUOTE (jmrguy @ Jun 27 2005, 12:42 AM)
WOW!  This is a nice moniter!  I can't imagine what a higher contrast would look like.  The response is amazing also.  No dead pixels.  I am definately buying one of these to use for my computer.  I started looking at how it is put together.  I haven't stripped it yet, but it looks like it will be relatively straight forward.
*


strip that baby already! fingers crossed smile.gif
venery99
any issues with the monitor?
jmrguy
I've been in the middle of work/school/moving to a new house/girlfriend, so i haven't had any time to strip it (plus I didn't want to break it in the middle of moving). I have set some time this weekend aside, so I will let you know how it works (hopefully today).
jmrguy
OK, so I got busier than I expected last weekend. BUT, today was my last day of finals (2 finals, and 2 papers due)!! So now I am done with classes for a while! As soon as I got home from my last final, I started stripping the Hyundai monitor. This is my first monitor I have stripped. I am in the process of doing it at the moment. I have successfully taken out the LCD, and everything. It seems to be going smoothly and so far has been straight forward. All I have left to do is unscrew three more screws holding the circuit board to the metal panel behind it. It is REALLY tight and my hands are a bit sore at the moment.

So in conlucion, this monitor DOES strip well. I didn't have any problems with it. I am essentially done, just three more screws to go. The FFC cable seems pretty long, and very flexible, so I am not worried about it breaking off.

The monitor looks awesome (I have been using it until I bought a new 19"er. It was easy to strip. DEFINATELY RECOMMENDED!
jmrguy
Hopefully I will be able to get pics soon if I can steal my roommates digital camera for a few minutes.
venery99
That is great to hear the monitor works out. Can't wait to see photos of your progress.
jmrguy
OK, I measured the metal frame (which I will probably just use to hold the LCD) and it is 11 and3/4 inches by 14 and a little less than an 1/8 inches. Hope that helps for estimating box size.
blake
QUOTE (jmrguy @ Jul 22 2005, 05:25 AM)
OK, so I got busier than I expected last weekend.  BUT, today was my last day of finals (2 finals, and 2 papers due)!!  So now I am done with classes for a while!  As soon as I got home from my last final, I started stripping the Hyundai monitor.  This is my first monitor I have stripped.  I am in the process of doing it at the moment.  I have successfully taken out the LCD, and everything.  It seems to be going smoothly and so far has been straight forward.  All I have left to do is unscrew three more screws holding the circuit board to the metal panel behind it.  It is REALLY tight and my hands are a bit sore at the moment.

So in conlucion, this monitor DOES strip well.  I didn't have any problems with it.  I am essentially done, just three more screws to go.  The FFC cable seems pretty long, and very flexible, so I am not worried about it breaking off.

The monitor looks awesome (I have been using it until I bought a new 19"er.  It was easy to strip.  DEFINATELY RECOMMENDED!
*

You should add this to the compatible monitors list, this is great news. biggrin.gif
evilbetty
looking for a good 17" screen with no issues in stripping and definatley no ffc issues due to my last strip down,can you get any pics of this puppy please!!!!!
makey
QUOTE (evilbetty @ Jul 25 2005, 09:48 AM)
looking for a good 17" screen with no issues in stripping and definatley no ffc issues due to my last strip down,can you get any pics of this puppy please!!!!!
*

benq fp767 v2
jmrguy
OK, I'll try to get some on here tonight.
evilbetty
dont mean to be a pain in the ass but any luck with those pics of the lcd ???
sawtooth_ktm
QUOTE (evilbetty @ Jul 30 2005, 02:11 AM)
dont mean to be a pain in the ass but any luck with those pics of the lcd ???
*

Me too... just ordered one biggrin.gif want to see how you did it.
noddy43
Hi
New Member from Australia.
Have also just ordered a L72S. Would be very interested to see some pics on how you stripped it jmrguy.
jmrguy
Pic of the FFC (I believe this is the FFC?). It is actually a round wire to connect to the circuit board.
jmrguy
Another FFC shot.
jmrguy
And a pic of the edge connectors.
jmrguy
I forgot my roommate was leaving this week, so I had to use my crappy webcam. I just ordered a new 5MP camera, so I will get some better pics soon. The edge connectors seem a little brittle, but I have flexed them quite a bit, and they haven't broken. The ffc is actually a round cable which is very flexible, and plenty long enough.
sawtooth_ktm
QUOTE (jmrguy @ Jul 30 2005, 12:14 PM)
And a pic of the edge connectors.
*


Sweet, that means it actually has no FFC, it is a wired cabled. And, it only has 2 edge connectors? That should make this panel very easy to work with, and much less fragile. Thanks jrmguy, looking forward to more pics when you get your camera.
jmrguy
Actually, it has 6 edge connectors on the one side (the pic didn't show it very well). But nevertheless, I think that will make the edge connectors more stable to have 6 (but more things that could break). This monitor is very easy to strip, and not overly fragile. Definately recommended. I haven't actually fired it up yet after the strip (I will once the box is done) but it seems fine to me.
noddy43
Thanks! Jmrguy
look forward to further pics. Sounds like this monitor is great choice for a 17" PJ. I feel confident in stripping it now.
jmrguy
Tigerdirect extended the rebate until the end of August for anyone still interested in this monitor (still $209).
KitaruSapien
QUOTE (jmrguy @ Aug 1 2005, 01:30 PM)
Tigerdirect extended the rebate until the end of August for anyone still interested in this monitor (still $209).
*



FLOL! I still got mine ordered under the original wire.......can't wait to get it!
phutton
Are the 6 edge conncetors on the bottom, top or on the sides. If they are on the sides then that may interfere with some sled designs.
jmrguy
Hmmm. I'm pretty sure they were on the top of the monitor (this is the ideal place because when you flip and invert the lcd, it puts the circuitry on the bottom of the box. correct?). I know it was definately not on the side.
phutton
Thanks
evilbetty
hay every one i have a little more info in this hyundai lcd monitor if any one is interested,

i purchased one and stripped it yesterday ,happy with the results too,
only thing im not sure on is if you have to earth the main lcd board from
the screw points that it was removed from any one got any ideas on this????

well see my plog for a little more info may help some of you out ????

http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=25&t=7072
jmrguy
I think you mean ground them. I would just screw one end of the ground wire into the side of the box and you should be ok. Good to see someone else was able to strip it with success. It is quite easy if you go slow.
jmrguy
Also, thanks for the stripping guide. That is exactly what mine looked like.
venery99
Has anyone been successful in forcing a 1280x720 resolution on the Hyundai l72s screen? I keep getting the message monitor does not support this mode.
jmrguy
I haven't tried. Are you using Powerstrip?
meyer2
QUOTE
Has anyone been successful in forcing a 1280x720 resolution on the Hyundai l72s screen? I keep getting the message monitor does not support this mode.


Thats a bit of a worry venery99, I was thinking of gettng one of these to replace my trusty BenQ 567s v2.

Assuming you are using Powerstrip, the driver has accepted the new resolution of 1280x720 and then asks you to reboot. After rebooting, the slider in Powerstrip is used to select the new resolution and will report whether the display has accepted the new resolution, is it not doing this? Does the Hyundai simply display "monitor does not support this mode".

I had difficulties with this with the BenQ trying to get 1024x576 but discovered I was trying this resolution at 75hz vertical (I'm in PAL land). If I used a more standard 60hz then later tweaked the custom timings to 75hz everything was OK.
venery99
I have to try a few more things. Basically I have tried the preset values that are already in my display properties, ie 1280x720. But I get Monitor does not support mode. This is at 60hz. I will have to try some more custom resolutions with powerstrip.
stylus221
Nope, Unfortuantely the L72s doesn't support 720p:
http://www.hyundaiq.com/pro_spec_l72s.asp
Under factory presets 1280x720 isn't listed. I tried hooking up my x2vga, 480i works fine but no 720p. You'll need a scaler.
BTW, I finally built my projector using this baby, yes the picture is sweet :-) No 720p is dissapointing. I made the box similar to matropolis but even uglier ;-). Picture quality is excellent, very surprised how easy it was tune in. I'll post some pics in my plog soon. Now I think I'm going to have to build one like puni15er's just so the wife will let me keep it in the house. Back to the MDF board ;-(
meyer2
Thats right, 1280x720 (a 16:9 format) is not listed as a preset but neither has my BenQ got 1024x576 (also a 16:9 format) listed either but I can still set my BenQ to this resolution.

If its a 4:3 display, ie. not a widescreen display, then it will only have 4:3 presets available. These are just a handfull of commonly used resolutions an average user might use. The Hyundai L72S is typical of this.

However...most LCD monitors have about 50 user-defineable resolutions available but you have to use a program like Powerstrip to set them.

Try Powerstrip, you will see what I mean.
stylus221
That's good info, Meyer2, but if it sounds like powerstrip only lets you find similar 16:9 resolutions for your video card/LCD to display. I have a device (x2vga) that converts HDTV to vga (no scaling) like the vdigi so it will only display 640x480, 1280x720, etc. Can Powerstrip program the monitor to accept 1280x720 so those converters will work?
GadgetSmith
Recently we were having a discussion about the CMV-520D and getting Powerstrip to use a 1024x576 resolution (1024x768 is the standard resolution). SIMJEDI posted a link in this thread which expains how to run a "resolution within a resoltuion", rather than just selecting the predefined timings. Perhaps you could try these same basic steps within Powerstrip, but of course adjust the resolutions to fit your 17" setup. Of course using Powerstip is kinda moot if your hooking your xbox to your LCD as the PC doesn't even come into play... looks like no 720p games from the xbox. most of them are 480p anyway...
meyer2
Do people who own the Hyundai L72S notice any(much) Backlight Bleeding?

Backlight Bleeding is a common problem with LCD monitors and it depends on quality control during manufacture of the panel. It varies considerably from one panel to the next and also between manufacturers.

What may appear as minimal Backlight Bleeding on a monitor in normal monitor use may look totally unacceptable when we blast 400 watts of light through the panel and project on a screen in a darkened room.

Here are some pictures of two different Samsung 930Bs' showing Backlight Bleeding. I would like to point out the Samsung 930B is the big cousin of the Samsung 730B which uses the same panel used in the Hyundai L72S.

Edit: Ignore the bright spot in the middle of the first picture.
jmrguy
When I had mine put together and was using it as a monitor, I saw absolutely no backlight bleeding. I now have a Fuji 19" (600:1 contrast) because I wanted to go with a bigger one for every day use, I can definately tell there is some backlight bleeding (and it is kind of annoying) but even the Fuji is nothing like those pictures.
meyer2
Thats good to hear jmrguy, about the L72S I mean.

My BenQ 567Sv2 has backlight bleeding on all 4 sides and streaks of light go right through the monitor from top to bottom, I don't want a repeat of this with my next monitor.

Here is another picture I found on a forum illustrating Backlight Bleeding. This is a Philips 190B. Notice it appears only at the top and bottom of the screen but its much worse at the bottom.
jmrguy
Has anyone tried the resolution within a resolution yet? I would try mine, but it's not easily accessible at the moment. I was thinking of getting a transcoder, but it sounds like it may not work.
stylus221
Jmrguy, Not sure what you mean by resolution in a resolution but here's my experience with it so far:

XBOX 480P, using x2vga - supported but colors are a little washed. Definitely playable though.
XBOX 720P, 1080i not supported.

So a transcoder going from HDTV to VGA will only display 480i/p, and not that great either.

Now if your using an HTPC watching 720P @ 1280x1024 is spectacular! I downloaded a 720P WMV on the Space Shuttle launch. Absolutlely amazing. like watching a 5ft Plasma!

So if you want to get full HD quality from your xbox, xbox 360, or satelitte HD you'll need a video scaler. I've just come to that conclusion. I've looked around on the web a bit and the focus enhancements CS-HD looks good, marked down significantly to $200. Still a pricy and unexpected option, but I want to watch HD from the satelitte, xbox and xbox 360 when it comes out. Dang.
jmrguy
The resolution in a resolution was from an earlier post about PowerStrip.

Hmmm, that sucks that we can't use a transcoder. Do you know anything about the quality of this CS-HD scalar that you are talking about (also, where is it $200)? I haven't been able to find much about it on the web. Does it look better than the N6 (I am definately not impressed with the N6's quality)?

Thanks.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.