This is a list of all LCDs known to be incompatible for our projectors. This is not a thread to ask whether an unknown monitor will work or not. Those questions may be addressed in the Untested products thread:

http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18

Let's try to stay on topic here. Thanks!

- TVeiw 7" monitor
FFC issue,REAL bad

- KDS Rad5
"This panel suffers from "Immovable driver board Syndrome" or IDBS. ...the driver boards block 20% of the picture. If you can live with that, then it could be used without a problem(just resize your window out of the way). "

- Mag Innovision LT501
Board has a 20 pin ffc

- Mag LT-565
FFC Issue

- Intec 7.2 inch monitor tailored for the X-Box.
The LCD module is made by Casio, has leads
from a bottom board soldered to the controller board on one side, and has ribbon cables on two other sides.

- NEC 1560M
FFC issue.

- ProView FE-561
FFC issue

- Mitsubishi 15" model v50lcd
FFC issue

- Compaq 5017 15"
FFC issue

- Spectre X3G-Naga II
(At Walmart.com)
NOT DIY FRIENDLY. Has FFC issues.

- Viewsonic VE510+
FFC ISSUE

- Tatung Model L54. (refurbished HP rebadge)
FFC ISSUE

- CMV 522A
FFC issue
No wires at all. FFC to each component board

- Dell E15FPc
FFC Issue

- AOC LM-500
FFC Issue

- Hitachi CDL150XU
FFC Issue

- Sony SDM-M51
FFC Issue
specs aren't any good either:300:1 CR, 50ms response

Can you please explain a "FCC issue"?What exactly is the problem with using this if it strips ok?

ktulu-

The FFC (not FCC) issue is detailed in some of the other threads, and I think in the PDF, but basically the connectors for the panel and its controllers (Flat Flexible Cable) can be too short, brittle, etc. for use in the project since you need to reposition some of the electronics.

- Eric

I've never had to do it but I've studied the problem some. Micro soldering I believe is the worst solution. If cable can be found that has the same pitch and connector count, 2 lengths can be used to extend your cable without soldering. Basically you would take 2 lengths of cable and clamp them together with their conductive edges facing each other. Then you would clamp one end of this to your FFC with their conductive edges facing each other. This would extend the cable and give you the right pin orientation on the other end. I'll try to make a drawing of this.

Many people have found the cable they need from digikey:

http://www.digikey.com/

If you have a local electronics supply house (NOT Radio Crack) you can probably take your cable in and they can match up your FFC for you, in theory at least.

Also, plain extension cables are known to exist, it's just finding them that's challenging.

Mr.Kh has a excellent thread on how to extend over at diy audio.Heres a link

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread....&threadid=26259

Could we clarify which Dell E15FPc is imcompatable as there are Dell E151FPc ,E152FPc, and E153FPc, and also all thoes but with a b instead of a c, the b's are made by BenQ by the way

here's another monitor with a FFC issue.

Compaq TFT500
it's an older monitor with low contrast (200:1 i believe) but it does need to have a single 24pin 0.5mm cable extended. (Brainchild can get these!!)

so if you do get one for cheap (or even free!) it's not too hard to make work.

SCEPTRE x5 naga NOT DIY FRIENDLY, SEVERE FFC ISSUES


brain had problems with the X3 model, i dare say the sceptre line is bad news. not fixable, i have pics if anyone desires so.


maybe the komodo line is better, but i'm not trying...


SCEPTRE x5 naga NOT DIY FRIENDLY, SEVERE FFC ISSUES

KOGI 14" LCD

Strip friendly but has 20 pin FFC issue. FFC from Lumenlab alone did not solve issue because needs a FPC connector and cable to clamp the FCP cable from LCD circuit board to the extension cable. 6" lenght barely reaches the board. A longer extension will work best. FCP are thinner than FFC. FFC will not fit connector on LCD vertical driver PCB. As this brand may just work off the same path in future production of LCDs my advice would be NOT to buy KOGI monitors.

19" Samsung 913V has FFC issue.

It's a pity since it has a spec'd 800:1 contrast ratio typical. I'm going to try an extension. We'll see how it works.

Ehy Chick if you find any extension that works be sure to post a follow up here! Is your FCC issue a cable to connector or connector to connector one?

Daewoo L510B1 - has FFC issue. (Short brown FFC.)

IBM ThinkVision L150 terrible FCC issue ( short and also at 90 so that it covers the lcd when connected)

Just finished stripping a NEC Multisync 1550M and put it back together.
Issues are;

1. 90 degree FFC
2. The boards are at the bottom of the LCD which would put them at the top of the box once upside down.

Result, wife has a good monitor now.

John

Phillips Brilliance 150P2

Has a circuit board on the bottom and down the left side of the the LCD both connected to the panel by FFC's, the two boards are seperated by a 90 degree FFC that has varying track width.

Very difficult if not impossible to work with.

I just got a Dell E153FPc today. Stripped it and it has an ffc issue. It looks like it could be extended but I didn't even bother. I put it back together and sold it to a friend.

I hava an FCC issue with my LG FLATRON 563 LE. two boards get in the way and the ffc cable is too small to be extended.... so i guess the monitor is incompatible

I've stripped a Liteon GC150AT/ATA, it doesn't look workable to me, unless you want to deal with a FFC too short and having some boards on the ceiling of the box.

Norcent 4503 15in. has a FCC issue but can be resolved with a 18pin extension.

I used the one from LL and it works fine. A little tight sandwiching
the two ends together, but it works.

Jetway 15" LCD - 90 degree bend issue... not compatible.

I fried the glass on my jetway 15" doing this, FYI If your monitor has an FFC issue, for pete's sake, put it back together and take it back.

[moderator's note: "Taking it back" is not an option once you've taken it apart. Opening your LCD is a violation fo the manufactuer's warranty, and taking it back at that point would be warranty fraud. Lumenlab does not recommend or endorse this practice- OKflyboy]

If you're looking for answers here about this problem, you're *probably* not good enough to do it yourself. Find an easier monitor to strip. Trust me, it will be less expensive in the long run. My "cheap" brand new $200 monitor is now spare parts so the hunt is back on for a monitor without FFC issues. None. Not-a-one. It's not worth the hassle, and very real chance that the same thing will happen again.

http://www.icuepc.com/www/productdetail.asp?did=328

Could someone clairfy for me the Dell Dell E15FPc on the list, I searched and couldnt find that model, I think that is an Amptron. Is it supposed to say 1505FP?

I just picked up the 15in 400:1 16ms Proview 500p otherwise know as the PL513s for an amazing $129 after MIR and manager special from MicroCenter and to my great disappointment it has a very short wiring harness from the lcd to the electonics (about 3 inches and it's located in the middle of the back) so it don't look like it'll be any good for this. BUT it makes a nice light weight LAN Party virtually disposable gamers LCD!!!

can you send me a picture of the that wire harness?

I can as soon as I get it taken apart, thanks.

Just came across another PJ using this monitor here:
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5645
and he says it's easy to strip and he didn't need to do anything to the harness.
Guess I jumped the gun, sorry!

Samsung Synchmaster 172mp: 90 degree FFC issue

Samsung 540n has a ffc issue if it hasn't already been stated.

Has anyone worked with the Goodmans GV500 yet? I can buy one cheap enough, although I haven't seen it mentioned. Really would like to know as I am eager to finish my PJ& have just fried my 15" AOC!!!

Just to keep the lazy from buying their 'very own' ffc issue, i've compiled the two pages. I suppose it needs to be stated that this list is in no way complete... so buyer beware......

- TVeiw 7" monitor
FFC issue,REAL bad

- KDS Rad5
"This panel suffers from "Immovable driver board Syndrome" or IDBS. ...the driver boards block 20% of the picture. If you can live with that, then it could be used without a problem(just resize your window out of the way). "

- Mag Innovision LT501
Board has a 20 pin ffc

- Mag LT-565
FFC Issue

- Intec 7.2 inch monitor tailored for the X-Box.
The LCD module is made by Casio, has leads
from a bottom board soldered to the controller board on one side, and has ribbon cables on two other sides.

- NEC 1560M
FFC issue.

- ProView FE-561
FFC issue

- Mitsubishi 15" model v50lcd
FFC issue

- Compaq 5017 15"
FFC issue

- Spectre X3G-Naga II
(At Walmart.com)
NOT DIY FRIENDLY. Has FFC issues.

- Viewsonic VE510+
FFC ISSUE

- Tatung Model L54. (refurbished HP rebadge)
FFC ISSUE

- CMV 522A
FFC issue
No wires at all. FFC to each component board

- Dell E15FPc
FFC Issue

- AOC LM-500
FFC Issue

- Hitachi CDL150XU
FFC Issue

- Sony SDM-M51
FFC Issue
specs aren't any good either:300:1 CR, 50ms response


-Compaq TFT500
FFC issue
it's an older monitor with low contrast (200:1 i believe) but it does need to have a single 24pin 0.5mm cable extended. (Brainchild can get these!!)

-SCEPTRE x5 naga NOT DIY FRIENDLY,
SEVERE FFC ISSUES

-KOGI 14" LCD
20 pin FFC issue

Samsung 913V
FFC issue

-Daewoo L510B1 - has
FFC issue
-
IBM ThinkVision L150
terrible FCC issue

-NEC Multisync 1550M
FFC issue

-Phillips Brilliance 150P2
FFC issue

-Dell E153FPc
FFC issue

-LG FLATRON 563 LE
FFC issue

-Liteon GC150AT/ATA
FFC issue

-Norcent 4503 15in. has a FCC issue but can be resolved with a 18pin extension.

-Jetway 15" LCD
FFC issue

-proview 500p PL513s
FFC issue

-Samsung Synchmaster 172mp
FFC issue

-Samsung 540n
FFC issue

I bought one of these a couple months ago with my projector in mind. I think whomever stated this LCD won't work was incorrect; it just needs an 18 pin .5 mm pitch extension for the two driver boards. I just ordered the extension and I'll be trying it out when it arrives with the rest of my kit.

See pic:
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I haven't seen it listed yet; NEC 1530V has FCC issues. 20 pin FFC at a 90 angle soldered on one side and zif connector on other. Made so that the bottem controller panel for the lcd panel folds ontop of the actual panel and then plugs into the side panel. I've had many issues with this monitor.

I had just stripped Monitor LCD Trigem TGL 150 TX and I found the ffc issues. I think this monitor can’t use for this project.

Keeping the List Updated.

X2GEN 15" MG15VT
FFC Issues

the cmv 522a is compatible, it just has short fcc's but it works for pj's

Dell E151FP
- FFC issues (18-pin extendable)
- Driver at bottom (top in a projector)

The actual panel is an AU Optronics L150X2M-1

Well here's another one to add to the list. The FFC connectors are way too short.

CMV Polyview PT-518A.



It's a shame too, really nice picture.

EN5600 15-inch LCD Monitor look like this...

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Does anybody have an idea on what extension cable this would need plz... Thanks in advance..

you've already stripped it? if so, you might want to put the panel number/where manufactured/year here too as the 518A has been used before with no problems, I just searched it because I thouhgt the model sounded familiar.....
just goes to show that manufacturers just switch panels at random...what worked yesterday is no guarantee it will work again..

Because of the fact that the Belinea 101536 is in the compatible list I bought one for €90,-

But the version I bought is NOT compatible, due to a 90 (ninety) degree ffc issue.

This is about the Belinea 101536 111504 version. I don't know about other versions.

Hi im using a NEC multisync 1560, responstime 25 ms and it works great.
Was a little hard stripping and contrast 350:1 but no so costly to get second hand 80$

nec multisync 1560 nx, to be exact and it might be around 3 years now
had some probs with a thinn metal plate that was glued on but the rest was easy!

I got an Envision EN-7100si 17" LCD today, model number TFT1780PS.

I don't know how "easy" it is to strip a monitor in general, but this one came apart without too much hastle. It DOES have the FFC issue (as you can see in the pictures). The cable is 30 pin, but I don't know if it's the standard size or not (but I bet it is). The cable is 0.612 inches or aproximately 15.5mm wide at the end that unplugs.

I just tried a NEC 1512 LCD. Good enough picture and 400:1 CR but an 90 degree FFC issue, not something easily exteneded because of the wierd way the wires in the FFC were laid out. Exact same issue as the last monitor I tried, a Metro 15" from futureshop. I wouldn't be surprised if they were the same panel.

ECS Elitegroup EZX15G
controller board burns out without cathode invertor attached

Hisense 15" LCD TV- LCD1504

Found commonly on Ebay.

Has FFC Issue. Pic below shows the two boards folded over the back of the LCD, connected by a very short FFC. This CAN be fixed by tracing the vias and soldering real wires (which I eventually did). Other than that, it was very easty to strip, is cheap, and has decent specs:

1024x768
400:1 contrast
16ms response
A/V, YPbPr, S-video, VGA input

I also just stripped a Dell E151FPb and had an FFC issue. So although some people haven't had a problem with this model, be wary when you think about buying one, as theres a good chance you might have an issue.

Tatung CLT-L50 (Marked on rear sticker as L50) - 15 inch LCD monitor.



This is a re-badged HP monitor - I peeled back my sticker and it had the HP logo stamped into the plastic.

FFC issue - I don't know how many pins on the connector, but when I saw it, I just left it alone.
This monitor also looks quite difficult to strip as well, so best avoid this one.

It is not initially obvious how to access this insides of the monitor but I discovered the way.
Unusually, access is only available through the front of the screen. The stand cannot be removed on this model.
You need to prise a screw driver (or two) through the four holes located at the rear base of the monitor and remove the front panel surround. The LCD panel and all electronics can be lifted out after removing four screws.

Polymoog

Can somebody say anything about Hyundai ImageQuest Q15?

KenMark 15KN10E5 LCD TV


Has FFC issues Odd size 11mm wide 16pin , Stripping was easy after about 20 or so screws the lcd came right out. Ag removal was also easy after a 1 hour paper towel soaking it came right off
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