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joecnc2006
QUOTE (FastCote @ Jan 3 2006, 05:10 PM) *
Joe, I went hunting at the home store (Lowes) for black iron pipe as it looks like all your designs call for it. The pipe I found looks like it is either painted or plastic coated BUT was badly pitted or bubbled. In any case, it doesn’t look like a very good surface for the bearing to roll on. Next to the black pipe was galvanized. Is that a good alternative? Is it the same O.D., same strength, stiffness, etc.?


Yes the dia. is the same and also thickness and so on. one is painted and one has a galvanized finish on it. you can always sand it.
FastCote
Yet another Lowes investtigation.....

i am confused aout all the references to MDF. when i think of MDF i think of THIS stuff:

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isnt it actually partical board that most folks are using:

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MDF seems very papery to me and prone to tearouts. I am probably confused as usual. Just looking for some clarification.

Thanks.
joecnc2006
QUOTE (FastCote @ Jan 4 2006, 08:48 AM) *
Yet another Lowes investtigation.....

i am confused aout all the references to MDF. when i think of MDF i think of THIS stuff:

Click to view attachment

isnt it actually partical board that most folks are using:

Click to view attachment

MDF seems very papery to me and prone to tearouts. I am probably confused as usual. Just looking for some clarification.

Thanks.


your bottom picture is partical board (No Good).

MDF (Medium Density Fiber) is very smooth to the touch and runs about 23-25 dollars a sheet 3/4"x49"x97"

http://www.merbok.com/mdfoverview/whatis.htm

Joe
wyldesyde007
And the mdf is more resistant to water, has a tighter core and handles screws better. (i'm a cabinet maker).
ynneb
Thats a fantastic story oldtimer.
Even though I am not your age I can relate to what you are saying.
Now that you have built your CNC machine you will be busy for the rest of your life making things with it.
What a pity you wasted 15 years though. Make sure you never slip down that path again.
They should have health warnings display on ever game of Solitare.

Thanks for sharing smile.gif
FastCote
How well does MDF tap, and are there any tricks?

Also, any suggestions as to whic dap and die set to buy?
joecnc2006
QUOTE (FastCote @ Jan 5 2006, 10:05 PM) *
How well does MDF tap, and are there any tricks?

Also, any suggestions as to whic dap and die set to buy?


mdf is very easy to tap, I use 1/4-20 tap and *10-24 tap.

the best way is to drill, then tap using a cordless drill and just getting a feel for when to and how far to tap, then add some superglue or epoxy and insert screw, some use wood glue, it helps to harden the threads in the mdf.
FastCote
I started my cnc machine from the drawings you sent. I got a good portion of the x-axis done. All is well execpt now that i am on the x-axis bearing brackets, I can not fine 1 1/4 aluminum angle ANYWHERE!!!

I hit Home Depot, Lowes, and even the local hardware store. NO DICE.

Any suggestions?
Smackre
Mcmaster Carr?
joecnc2006
you have to get it from an alumn. distributor in your area, the 1 1/4" is not a regular size that a hardware store will carry, I get mine local 20' at a time.

Or substitute for 1 1/4" angle iron

Joe

QUOTE (FastCote @ Jan 7 2006, 09:57 PM) *
I started my cnc machine from the drawings you sent. I got a good portion of the x-axis done. All is well execpt now that i am on the x-axis bearing brackets, I can not fine 1 1/4 aluminum angle ANYWHERE!!!

I hit Home Depot, Lowes, and even the local hardware store. NO DICE.

Any suggestions?
jefftt
HEY! I been buying from "OnlineMetals" , since I've been a reader of the "LINDSAY BOOKS" catalog.

Online Metals' prices ain't too bad, considering it's pretty much a one-stop shop for getting unusual stuff, good for people with more plastic than patience.. (me) tongue.gif

QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jan 8 2006, 12:54 AM) *
you have to get it from an alumn. distributor in your area, ...

Joe
UltraMagnus
hi, i just found this great site, i actually came here to this topic from google.

anyway, i thought this would be as good place as any to make my first post.

i am in the UK, so, unfortunately i can't order the kit from you really as the postage would be prohibitively expensive. However i do have access to a “real” CNC machine at my collage (well actually school really). So i was hoping you wouldn't mind sending me the DXF or solid edge files along with a quick guide on what parts need to be machined in what materials, along with the construction guide.

My email e-mail address is calgar@*nospamplease*cybiko.eu (without the “*nospamplease”) i don't make it public on forums to avoid spam harvesters.

Thanks in advance!
halaszj
Joe,

Where in San Antonio are you located?
joecnc2006
QUOTE (halaszj @ Jul 17 2006, 09:08 PM) *
Joe,

Where in San Antonio are you located?

NE side off of IH35
joecnc2006
QUOTE (UltraMagnus @ Jun 30 2006, 10:43 AM) *
hi, i just found this great site, i actually came here to this topic from google.

anyway, i thought this would be as good place as any to make my first post.

i am in the UK, so, unfortunately i can't order the kit from you really as the postage would be prohibitively expensive. However i do have access to a “real” CNC machine at my collage (well actually school really). So i was hoping you wouldn't mind sending me the DXF or solid edge files along with a quick guide on what parts need to be machined in what materials, along with the construction guide.

My email e-mail address is calgar@*nospamplease*cybiko.eu (without the “*nospamplease”) i don't make it public on forums to avoid spam harvesters.

Thanks in advance!


try here

http://www.lumenlab.com/~joe2000chevy/CNC_Model_2006_R-1/
Joe
halaszj
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jul 18 2006, 01:44 PM) *
NE side off of IH35


selma / shertz area?

Im off of bandara and 1604, and i really like you design, and was thinking about a kit or something, but would like to see how it works if possible.
UltraMagnus
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jul 18 2006, 07:46 PM) *


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conker
QUOTE (UltraMagnus @ Jul 24 2006, 09:21 PM) *
404


Try here then :

http://mail.lumenlab.com/~joe2000chevy/CNC_Model_2006_R-1/

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viper_11111
Great ideas have been demonstrated in this thread. I have read the whole thing with interest. However I was a little bummed that I was unable to find the drawings and models for the 2nd machine you built during the course of this thread. The URL's were listed but no longer work. I see that you have info on the new R-1 and R-2 models, but I was hoping to build the smaller simpler version. Any chance you have those models and dimensions hanging around that I might be able to download?

Thanks and keep up the great work!
mhp622
When I found this forum, till then it never occured to me that it's possible to make your own CNC mill. I've been working on 3D surfaces and my current project is a 3D USA flag. It is 40' by 40' by 4' tall and I was wondering if there are any plans of a taller mill? Well, not one of that size, but something that can do tall complex curves. I may "borrow" some wood from my school to make this and when i'm done with college I can complete it.
joecnc2006
QUOTE (mhp622 @ Aug 18 2006, 01:43 AM) *
When I found this forum, till then it never occured to me that it's possible to make your own CNC mill. I've been working on 3D surfaces and my current project is a 3D USA flag. It is 40' by 40' by 4' tall and I was wondering if there are any plans of a taller mill? Well, not one of that size, but something that can do tall complex curves. I may "borrow" some wood from my school to make this and when i'm done with college I can complete it.


I am working on a total different design for a 4'x4' cutting area, metal frame machine, which will be scalable (larger or smaller)
skalhus
joe can i get the drawings of ur cnc machines 1-3 or as many u have made master! ;P
send to skalhus@spray.se
damn im gona try make on now.
i live in sweden little smaller market to find the stuff butt ill try!
the controller card for the y.x.z motors u hook it up to the pc directly?
joecnc2006
QUOTE (skalhus @ Sep 6 2006, 05:09 PM) *
joe can i get the drawings of ur cnc machines 1-3 or as many u have made master! ;P
send to skalhus@spray.se
damn im gona try make on now.
i live in sweden little smaller market to find the stuff butt ill try!
the controller card for the y.x.z motors u hook it up to the pc directly?


The controllor board plugs into the printer port, motors to controllor board.

files at http://mail.lumenlab.com/~joe2000chevy/CNC_Model_2006_R-1/

I will have to dig up the old ones.

joe
skalhus
nice thnx need to convert to mm in nuts and bolts we have metriksys here =) np!
hehe asked aroun and a mt was saweing an big old stepper motor.
huge!
skalhus
the stepper motor kit cost? and is it 110v?
we use 230 volts here
skalhus
Click to view attachmentHey fond a HP laserJet 5Si MX u think it got any good steppermotors in it?
cost me about 70 USD
It`s huge 60x55x50 cm
skalhus
err will cost me 70USD IF! i buy it! ;P
joecnc2006
QUOTE (skalhus @ Sep 10 2006, 10:59 AM) *
err will cost me 70USD IF! i buy it! ;P



Hp Uses 100ozin steppers, and only one in it. I would go with larger.
spyder_meister
Joe, are you still building kits for people that would like to build a machine?

I like what you've done, and would like to purchase some parts from you, if you are still cutting parts for people.

-Jim

PS I just ordered the hobbyCNC kit w/ 200 oz steppers. Now I am commited to the build!
spyder_meister
QUOTE (joe2000chevy @ Jun 22 2005, 09:53 AM) *
Here is a complete list and people can choose what they like depending on their built level

I'm looking forward to your feedback, Let me know what you think.....

1 - set, Tool Holder for Rotozip Upper and lower = $20.00 (does not include bolts)

1 - set, Nema 23 motor Spacers 3 total = $10.00 all three

3 - sets, Lead Screw Bearing supports = $30.00 (Does not incluse Bearings)

3 - sets Anti Backlash Nut w/ Tensioner = $15.00 (Includes Nuts 5/16")

4 - Small Adjustment Blocks 1" inside Dia. = $16.00 (does not include 1" adjustment bolts)

4 - Medium Adjustment Blocks 1.25" inside dia. = $16.00 (does not include 1" adjustment bolts)

4 - Large Adjustment Blocks 1.5" inside Dia. = $18.00 (does not include 1" adjustment bolts)

6 - Linear Alumn Bearing Block Suports = $35.00 for MDF and $45.00 for HDPE (3 sizes 2 ea., 8", 7.5" and 6")

Linear Bearing Slides 1 1/4" angle, with 4 bearings = $18.00 ea. (total 6 needed, 8", 7.5" and 6")

All the MDF pieces cut for the main structure only and ready to put together = $250.00 (Does not include Cutting top or very bottom two alignment pieces)

All pieces cut in HDPE for the main structure only (High Density Polyethelene) = $500.00 (Does not include Cutting top or very bottom two alignment pieces)

Remember prices may change slightly (but will hold on order date) depending on if i actually loose money in time and materials as the proccess goes on, as it is i am loosing or breaking even to start. The more people i have the more i will be able to get quantity on materials and drops the price for me initially
Thanks, Joe


Joe,

I'm quite sure the price of HDPE has changed since this post, but I would very much be interested in 1-6. I have paypal all set up for instant transfer of funds, etc. my e-mail is esoteric *at* bresnan.net.

thanks
-Jim
skalhus
hey gota steppermotor from a friend
sigma
cyclonome
steppingmotor
model. 20-4247TD200-f1.3
sigma instruments inc
braintree, mass, u.s.a
its about 6.5X5.5 inches and really heavy
but cant find anything about it can u help me please?
I looks old
skalhus
It looks old sorry for my spelling! ;P
spyder_meister
Joe, I just put in an order with www.use-enco.com for the list of parts you have as necessary in your pdf file for assembly. Thanks again for sharing all of this info!

If I had access to a CNC machine, I'd probably cut out the smaller pieces myself... but... this is my first one. =o)

thanks again, Joe!

-Jim
skalhus
I was thinking of starting to make a smaller cnc machine to start at.
like ur first or second machine joe then the 100oz motor would do fine ? yes?
skalhus
Thx mt good work!



Did u find some blueprints for ur first models?

gona make a small first using printer steppers. how small a printer uses 100oz steppers u think?
joecnc2006
QUOTE (skalhus @ Oct 1 2006, 04:22 PM) *
Thx mt good work!
Did u find some blueprints for ur first models?

gona make a small first using printer steppers. how small a printer uses 100oz steppers u think?


the hp printer steppers are 100oz, thats what i started with. and hobbycnc.com board
joecnc2006
here are some drawing files i found from march 2005, man its been a while.
skalhus
Nice!
Thx man!
skalhus
can u show apitchure of ur 100oz specs on the motors?
skalhus
hey found a school cnc cutting machine for free! old but it prolly work if i can put it together with my computer!
it got 3 steppers specs are
torque 380mN.m
step angle 1,8 degree
current/coil 1A
insulation class B

can u tell me the oz thing on this ?
skalhus
here is a pdf of my steppers check em out

right! they have a gear box on em make em stronger i think!
dont shows in pdf cool.gif
skalhus
anyone know of any good controller card for this?
joecnc2006
QUOTE (skalhus @ Oct 2 2006, 02:34 PM) *
here is a pdf of my steppers check em out

right! they have a gear box on em make em stronger i think!
dont shows in pdf cool.gif


I would not use those motors they are only 53oz. in.

380 [mN·m] millinewton meter = 53.81253427 [oz·in] ounce-force inch
Kenneth Barry
For those who are looking to get Motors, that is Stepper Motors, you'ed be smart to ask a copier leasing facility.

Often they have literally rooms of "part" machines. One of the stores i went to locally had so many that they handed me a screw driver and told me to "take whatever you want" and when i left with 7 very larger stepper motors (from very large copiers) they asked "did you get all you wanted?" and followed that with "well, if you need any more feel free to come back."

So, needless to say, maybe they are nicier than those you might run into, but i bet youde have the same luck in finding a place like that with a million and a half old copiers.

In my experience, the largest motors are in the Auto Document Feeder (the page taker on top)

But the things are full fo them on the inside also, but generally not as large as the one in the Auto Document Feeder.
skalhus
the motors have been cutting metal on the rig it`s on right now!
so they are not to bad i think the gearbox on em makes them stronger
joecnc2006
QUOTE (skalhus @ Oct 3 2006, 10:38 AM) *
the motors have been cutting metal on the rig it`s on right now!
so they are not to bad i think the gearbox on em makes them stronger


What type of "Rig" what is the weight they need to push and pull.
skalhus
here it is taken apart into two parts, and yes the cutting area is small but i think its in solid steal
and weigh pretty much!
skalhus
but the controllercard is damn old and it dont got an usual serial plugin some other hugh connect thingy!
but i got power supply and a box wink.gif
joecnc2006
you can reuse several pieces, get a parrallel port controllor and it will be more universal.

not sure what the pitch is on the leadscrews, but some of the linier guides can be used, from the picture they look fully enclosed so you will not be able to support the rails, unledd the X axis under the table is that way.
skalhus
im prolly gonna keep this this way to learn cnc cutting and make a bigger machine on the side of this but want this one to work!
So if i dont make this controller card to work for me, what do i need to know to get one that works for me?
And may work on bigger motors in the future!?
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