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MadCraiZ
I finally got around to installing FFDShow today. MPEG2 under the codec list is greyed out. I have the media player and ati dvd codecs installed but I guess those won't work. What else do I need to install to get it working?

Once I can get FFDShow working right, do I need to use any specific player to get it to display?
SIMJEDI
First off in FFSHOW goto the Codecs section at the top of the list and then to the bottom and make sure All Supported is checked. Don't touch anything else on the list. Next goto the bottom of the right hand window and goto the Output section and only check the YV12 box, leave everything else unchecked.

Then on the list on the left window move Resize and Aspect to the top of the list and check it to turn it on, with the small arrows next to the check box. Then click on Multiply by in the right window and type in 2.0 as a starting point, then goto Settings within Resize and Aspect and set the Parameter as Lancoz2 Just remember that any other filter you want to use has to go above the Resize filter.

To get you started with a very good decoder that is free, download DScaler5006.exe and install.

For a player IMO ZoomPlayer Pro is the best.

After you install ZP open it up and right click on the screen and select Player Options and goto the bottom of the window and select Advanced Mode.
Then on the list select DVD and make sure you are in the Cusomized (Recommended) tab, then look at the lower right section and click on Register Selected Filters, this will tell you what filters you have installed.
Goto the Video Decoder section and select DScaler (NoCSS) untill it's highlighted blue and click on the C next to the window to bring up dScaler's properties. Within dScaler's properties goto DVB Aspect Proferences and click on 16:9, then goto Output Color Space and select YV12 next select Do Analog Blanking and turn it off and hit Apply.

Now goto the Audio Decoder section in ZP and click on DScaler (NoCSS) and select the setting that pertain to your setup, SPDIF if you are using a digital connection to receiver. I will suggest turning off Dynamic Range Control.

Now goto Additional Filters and hit the Add button and choose FFDSHOW RAW Video Processor to use FFDSHOW.

Now goto Video Renderer and you can choose a couple of things depending on your video card, if you have a video card that is DX9 capable try the VMR Renderless setting. If you don't have the latest and greatest you can use either Overlay or one of the VMR9 settings.

VMR9 will get you to display proper video color, black and whites that DVD's are encoded at and when you goto calibrate with something like AVIA or DVE you will need to use the controls on the monitor. If you use overlay you will need to calibrate with the settings in the display drivers control panel, never use the ones in the player as you want the video to remain unmolested for as long as possible.

Hope this helps.


peace
MadCraiZ
QUOTE (SIMJEDI @ Apr 3 2005, 03:01 PM)
First off in FFSHOW goto the Codecs section at the top of the list and then to the bottom and make sure All Supported is checked. Don't touch anything else on the list. Next goto the bottom of the right hand window and goto the Output section and only check the YV12 box, leave everything else unchecked.


I don't have an "All Supported" option.

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Then on the list on the left window move Resize and Aspect to the top of the list and check it to turn it on, with the small arrows next to the check box. Then click on Multiply by in the right window and type in 2.0 as a starting point, then goto Settings within Resize and Aspect and set the Parameter as 2 Just remember that any other filter you want to use has to go above the Resize filter.


Under setting the default method (bicubic) only has a parameter range of -4.0 to default(0).
MadCraiZ
QUOTE (SIMJEDI @ Apr 3 2005, 03:01 PM)
First off in FFSHOW goto the Codecs section at the top of the list and then to the bottom and make sure All Supported is checked. Don't touch anything else on the list. Next goto the bottom of the right hand window and goto the Output section and only check the YV12 box, leave everything else unchecked.


I don't have an "All Supported" option.

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Then on the list on the left window move Resize and Aspect to the top of the list and check it to turn it on, with the small arrows next to the check box. Then click on Multiply by in the right window and type in 2.0 as a starting point, then goto Settings within Resize and Aspect and set the Parameter as 2 Just remember that any other filter you want to use has to go above the Resize filter.


Under setting the default method (bicubic) only has a parameter range of -4.0 to default(0).
SIMJEDI
QUOTE (MadCraiZ @ Apr 3 2005, 04:40 PM)
I don't have an "All Supported" option.
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Sorry, at the bottom of the list you will see Raw, click on the Decoder column and then select All Supported


QUOTE (MadCraiZ @ Apr 3 2005, 04:40 PM)
Under setting the default method (bicubic) only has a parameter range of -4.0 to default(0).
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Select the Lanczos method and then 2.


peace
zroth
QUOTE (MadCraiZ @ Apr 3 2005, 02:40 PM)
I don't have an "All Supported" option.

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Install this one...

http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Filters/ffdshow-20041012.exe
MadCraiZ
QUOTE (SIMJEDI @ Apr 3 2005, 03:01 PM)
After you install ZP open it up and right click on the screen and select Player Options and goto the bottom of the window and select Advanced Mode.
Then on the list select DVD and make sure you are in the Cusomized (Recommended) tab, then look at the lower right section and click on Register Selected Filters, this will tell you what filters you have installed.
Goto the Video Decoder section and select DScaler (NoCSS) untill it's highlighted blue and click on the C next to the window to bring up dScaler's properties. Within dScaler's properties goto DVB Aspect Proferences and click on 16:9, then goto Output Color Space and select YV12 next select Do Analog Blanking and turn it off and hit Apply.

Now goto the Audio Decoder section in ZP and click on DScaler (NoCSS) and select the setting that pertain to your setup, SPDIF if you are using a digital connection to receiver. I will suggest turning off Dynamic Range Control.

Now goto Additional Filters and hit the Add button and choose FFDSHOW RAW Video Processor to use FFDSHOW.

Now goto Video Renderer and you can choose a couple of things depending on your video card, if you have a video card that is DX9 capable try the VMR Renderless setting. If you don't have the latest and greatest you can use either Overlay or one of the VMR9 settings.

VMR9 will get you to display proper video color, black and whites that DVD's are encoded at and when you goto calibrate with something like AVIA or DVE you will need to use the controls on the monitor. If you use overlay you will need to calibrate with the settings in the display drivers control panel, never use the ones in the player as you want the video to remain unmolested for as long as possible.

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Got ZP, descaler, and FFDShow installed. For some reason, descaler isn't showing up in the Audio/Video Decoder choices. A good question at this point will probably be, will FDDShow work with an ATI AIW? I know that descaler doesn't (sure does make my web cam look pretty though). Maybe I should look for another decoder to replace descaler.
SIMJEDI
QUOTE (MadCraiZ @ Apr 4 2005, 04:31 PM)
Got ZP, descaler, and FFDShow installed.  For some reason, descaler isn't showing up in the Audio/Video Decoder choices.  A good question at this point will probably be, will FDDShow work with an ATI AIW?  I know that descaler doesn't (sure does make my web cam look pretty though).  Maybe I should look for another decoder to replace descaler.
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Are you sure you downloaded dScaler5 the decoder and not dScaler4 the viewing app? You need dScaler5 for viewing DVD's with Zoomplayer. Get the latest version here.

I do think that dScaler4 does offer support for the AIW cards now, and there is no support for FFDSHOW in dScaler4. sad.gif


peace
MadCraiZ
That was it...older version of descaler.

Looks better and runs a little slow so I assume it's running. Time to learn to what does what so I can tweak it...once I'm finished getting a "trial copy" of doom 3, I can restart my computer and turn up the front side bus...give my computer a little extra juice.
ducktv
I downloaded zoom player pro and ffdshow, Picture is alot better but seems a little choppy. Any ideas as to what could cause this?????
MMc
QUOTE (ducktv @ Jul 2 2005, 03:51 AM)
I downloaded zoom player pro and ffdshow, Picture is alot better but seems a little choppy. Any ideas as to what could cause this?????
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Choppiness is usually caused by using too many filters and overloading your CPU, try reducing the number of filters you are using.
zroth
QUOTE (MMc @ Jul 4 2005, 10:41 AM)
QUOTE (ducktv @ Jul 2 2005, 03:51 AM)
I downloaded zoom player pro and ffdshow, Picture is alot better but seems a little choppy. Any ideas as to what could cause this?????
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Choppiness is usually caused by using too many filters and overloading your CPU, try reducing the number of filters you are using.
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It sure is. open task manager (Right click on system bar, task manager) or on a *nix box use your process display to show. if your processor is pegged at 100% you need less going on.

Also, system memory makes a big difference. your processor may be able to handle the load but may not have the memory resources avaialble to load all the data at one time. Hopefully that made sense. I went to 2GB of RAM and was able to enable many more post processing options.
STReNT
Followed this guide exactly.. My results on a Athlon 64 3500+ with a 7800GTX... SHIT!

Picture looks worse, aspect ratio is screwed, chuggy as all hell.

And now my sound is completely screwed and distorted?
Dingle
just get WINDVD 7.....just came out...has all the same sharpening effects...etc..... much more worry free
pun15her
QUOTE (STReNT @ Jul 14 2005, 11:12 AM)
Followed this guide exactly.. My results on a Athlon 64 3500+ with a 7800GTX... SHIT!

Picture looks worse, aspect ratio is screwed, chuggy as all hell.

And now my sound is completely screwed and distorted?
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I have been playing around with zoomplayer pro and fdd show for the past 3 months,first I used the sonic cineplayer codec pack,but got choppy playback with even a little postprocessing.Then went with dscaler5 codecs,which seemed worse.After playing around alot,I removed the whole lot and re-installed all three bits of s/w again,now it is running beautifully,I am upscaling,using lanszos at 1.5,and 3d smoothing without a glitch on my amd 2500+ wit 1Gb,and a crappy £30 graphics card.
Don't know if it has been mentioned,but make sure you move the Blur and NR setting to above the Resize setting in the LHS panel,so it resizes the processed image ,rather than having to apply the postprocessing to the resized image!!??
Hope this helps,I had major troubles with this,but a good old fashioned re-install,cleared my choppiness right up! smile.gif
SIMJEDI
QUOTE (STReNT @ Jul 14 2005, 07:12 AM)
Followed this guide exactly.. My results on a Athlon 64 3500+ with a 7800GTX... SHIT!

Picture looks worse, aspect ratio is screwed, chuggy as all hell.

And now my sound is completely screwed and distorted?
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Make sure in your filter settings that "Process whole image" in unchecked, you don't want to be processing the black bars. Also make sure in the resize settings window that "No Aspect Ratio Correction" is unchecked. Are your sound settings properly setup according to you particular setup? Make sure every filter you have is placed before the resize.

What videodecoders are you running, NVIDIA and dScaler5 are the better ones.
What are you resizing to? Try a 2x setting first then go from there.

I resize to 2880x960 with a Unsharp Mask of 61 and that's it. To me every other filter wiped out minute textures. My test scene is from the movie Sky Captian where after the giant robots go thru the city and when they are about to take off, there is a slow pan from left to right and you can get a good look at the texture of their bodies with all the rivets and chest emblems, with any other filter active all that small detail was a blur.


peace
Doctormike78
I have set up the software as shown above and I am getting a glitch free video, but audio is choppy, I know the CPU is maxed out, so that is th reason I have the sound issue. Any suggestions how to get the sound to come around? Plus I can't get zoomplayer to play the english audio, always defaults to french and wont change. I'll list everything I have in my asonal and see if anyone can piece together a solution

AMD 2200+
1.5GB of Ram
Nvidia 6800 with Nvidia Pureplayer (picture is real choppy)
Standard Onboard Audio AC97
16X Sony DVD Player

I have several old RealMagic Hollywood Plus hardware decoder cards. Do you think there is any use for this card? I am curious if this could be used in conjuction with filters.
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