what is it you have to use to get a clean picture out ouf your entretainment consoles? the N6 got bad reviews for game consoles, some videocards cannot show a clean pic with game consoles...what gives?, and what are some answers?

i use the n4 with the advanced av pack for the xbox using the s-video and it gives me a nice crisp picture

so the s-video is the answer? i'd like to know what u can do for the ps2? i'm only guessing that the x-box has a higher def. capabilites for than ps2 ?

I use an N6 for gaming with all 3 consoles and get great results.

Shrivel, I'm curious how you have your Game Cube hooked to the N6. I read that GC made before May 2004 have component output and GC made after May 2004 doesn't have component output. Are you using component or s-video?

I've got a special component output for my XBX. It lets me play in 'high-Definition' formats.

component == red, grn, blu

I use the VD-Z3 from Vdigi for my Xbox,
http://www.vdigi.com

It's a component to VGA transcoder, gives me an awesome picture. I had previously used a piss poor line doubler from Lik-Sang- not very sharp image.

The ps2 can do HD, at other site's they talk about the Cube doing HD for some games provided you are using component cables.

I dont think the PS2 can do any HD .....

Some Ps2s can output progressive .... but not HD ...

Socom2 for example, can do 480P .... but thats far from HD

Most Xbox games will only do 480P ..... alot can do 720p though ....

I have no clue about gamecube ...

My xbx could b-a-r-e-l-y play Halo2 without hiccupping. I could only imagine how bad it would run scaled up to 480p or 720p.

My Xbox is connected with the component cables, the other two systems are connected via S-video. I've considered hunting down a component cable for my PS2, so I can do progressive, but it's not that big a deal for me. Even via s-video it looks great.

BTW, I believe the newest Gran Tourismo is capable of 1080i.

Hey guys, Halo 2 runs great on my xbox at 480p with the VD-Z3 transcoder. I've never had any hiccups playing Halo 2. The improved res really helps with headshots on Xbconnect!
There are suggestions at Xbox-scene.com for extra heatsinks to be added to certain chips that run hot within some peoples boxes causing glitches.

The PS2 does do HD

"It was a last-minute surprise that GT4 not only contained 480p, but also 1080i. While the look of the 1080i is the best it's just marginally better than the 480p mode. These modes will both look amazing on an HDTV, but there are still the classic PS2 jaggies from the lack of anti-aliasing."

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/578/578635p1.html?fromint=1

I'd always thought about watercooling my Xbox but I've yet to get around to it. I suppose at the very least I could cut up the case and put a Thermalright, some ramsinks and some Zalman northbridge coolers on anything that gets hot. It'd probably be a good idea to put heatsinks on the mosfets too. Hell, I might as well mount it in my currently empty mATX case and get some proper airflow to it.

One of the guys from [H]ard|OCP linky watercooled their XBX. It was funny because the reservoir was larger than the XBX.

I'm all for a Zalaman solution. Speaking of... now that the X3 chips are out. I should do some modding!

Uh..what?

Xbox games are tightly designed to run at their designated resolutions. Your Xbox, as well as everyone elses, plays Halo 2 only at 480 lines. Whether or not you're displaying all 480 at once with progresive through the HD pack makes no difference to the Xbox as it's still rendering them.

When you set the output to widescreen on the dashboard and use a scaler to upscale the resolution to match your display, the Xbox is still only producing 480 lines and will run exactly the same. Your scaler is doing the extra work, not the Xbox.

The games designed to run at 720p/1080i were also carefully designed within the limits of known hardware so you shouldn't have those hiccups. I've never run into any problems yet with an MS game. (I can't say the same for EA :angry: ) That's the benefit of a console game over a PC. I test Xbox games pretty regularly at MS and they're very extensive in their testing before the games are released.

If you're experiencing problems with your gameplay, it might be faulty hardware.

I own all the consoles and have the component cables for all them. Gamecube games are capable of 480p on most. Resident evil 4 never looked so good. You can get those from nintendo for about 30 bucks.

I haven't had any extra hardware hooked up yet.

My setup is XBX connected via RCA cable to a dirtbag standard CRT TV set.
During some of the stunning cinematics in Halo2 the console not only hiccupped it was literally brought to it's knees to display some of this stuff. Large textures & geometry were dropped completely. I was getting the same effect you would get if you severely over clocked a GPU and started seeing visual artifacts (only occurred during rendered full motion videos).

During game play in Cooperative Mode there were several maps where we were experiencing dropped frame rates (guessing the 15-20fps category). I mean what would you expect from a GF3 Ultra?

Do these games run better in higher resolutions? I know some high end GPUs just take a dump when you get into the lower resolutions. (NV6800 @ 640x480 etc.)

How is gaming at a high resolution then downscaling to an XGA display look with the N6?
That's what I am interested in doing with it.

Honestly, I've had very spotty luck at HD games. The only one of the 4 HD games I have that works correctly is Tony Hawk 4, but unfortunately there is no visual improvement by running this game at 720P over 480P - the textures are still fairly low-res.

The other 3 games simply don't display properly, which I've found to be due to the fact that our displays are 4:3, rather than the 16:9 of a standard HDTV. I have verified this to be a problem with the Xbox and not the N6 or monitor: 1080i and 720p material from my HDTV receiver are all displayed correctly in letterbox format.

Hmm maybe I should just get a VD-Z3 and a cheap $25 component input selector …then use that as my VGA input to my CMV CT-520D 15" DVI+VGA LCD 1024X768 500:1

I can use that for:
XBX 480p to XGA LCD panel
ReplayTV 480p to XGA LCD panel
Divx Player 480p to XGA LCD panel

I’ll be using the DVI input for the HTPC video.

Do you think this will work?

The problem with the VD-73 is that it's a transcoder and not a scaler, so it's going to output to your monitor in whatever resolution is being fed into it. With DVDs and TV, that will be 720x480, which will be scaled up (usually rather badly) by your monitor's internals.

720P HD signals are 1280x720, which may or may not be scaled down by your monitor. Many 15 inch monitors will simply refuse to accept that resolution.

What he said.
Read the scalers thread.


peace

Thanks guys, I was just trying to avoid the inevitability of the Viewsonic N6. heh.

Read through the scalers thread, thanks for all of your input Simjedi.