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QUOTE (mikelish @ Feb 17 2006, 01:01 AM) *
"No original xbox titles are higher than 480,as the xbox couldnt output a higher resolution.
"

By punisher
Completly False.


wasnt in just dashboard hacks that scaled the resolution to 720/1080??

or was the source material on the games themselves higher than 480?
pun15her
Thanks man,I am sure they will be ok in a couple of hours.I think my isp must have changed their policy on this.I have never had this problem before,and I have uploaded alot more than this over a continuous period. :angry:
I will e-mail you the pics though,thanks for the help.I will not upload anything for a couple of days,and see how it goes. sad.gif
Cheers P smile.gif dry.gif sad.gif
mikelish
SC2 is 720p

I played the %$#* out of that game on my buddys DLP projecter 2 years ago.
pun15her
QUOTE (mikelish @ Feb 17 2006, 01:01 AM) *
"No original xbox titles are higher than 480,as the xbox couldnt output a higher resolution.
"

By punisher
Completly False.


Sorry I am no expert on the xbox,a bit more information would be helpful,though!
I was under the impression,quite possibly wrongly,that the origional xbox was never designed to output hd.
Cheers P
pun15her
QUOTE (mikelish @ Feb 17 2006, 01:09 AM) *
SC2 is 720p

I played the %$#* out of that game on my buddys DLP projecter 2 years ago.

Fair enough.
mikelish
Not all of them are, but a lot of the games are 720p compatable. Has a chart on the back of the boxs.

I wish I had the VGA breakout for the 360, i bet it makes a world of differnece over my darn n6
pun15her
QUOTE (cpsubrian @ Feb 17 2006, 12:57 AM) *
Hey punisher, if you cant get these pictures working I can post a couple to my calpoly site. If you wouldnt mind emailing me a few that would be cool too. (blink@calpoly.edu) If you do I'll see about getting them up somewhere. Really want to see these comparisons.

Sent,thanks dude!
Any pics you want,let me know.
smile.gif
pun15her
Mikelish.I presume you are talking about Soul Calibur 2?
The English PAL version hasn't got that info,sorry for any confusion caused. smile.gif
pun15her
QUOTE (pun15her @ Feb 16 2006, 09:45 AM) *
Hi,all.
I got round to taking a dvd comparison shot last night,between the htpc and the xbox360.
Same camers,same settings,same distance,no doctoring,etc,etc.
I was quite surprised...

This is the htpc shot,using zoom player,fdd show,dscaler5 codec...



And this is with the xbox360,displaying at 1024 x 768...



Not bad,I reckon??
Cheers P biggrin.gif

My ISP has very genorously let me post pics again! YAY!
dry.gif
EdZ
The UK (PAL) xbox has 480p output disabled, so it's likely 720p and 1080i outputs are also disabled (this is in dashboard, a little fiddling with custom dashboards or modchips can enable the higher display modes, but like any hack it will bar you from Live if you try and log in whilst using it).
mikelish
Wow, that is kind of a downer.

Sorry punisher we were both right, in our own locations that is hhehehehe.
pun15her
Yep,we,in the UK were right royally screwed with the old egg box! sad.gif
The 360 is a nice bit of kit though.I am very impressed with it. smile.gif
Ilike it,I like it alot! smile.gif
pun15her
QUOTE (pun15her @ Feb 16 2006, 09:45 AM) *
Hi,all.
I got round to taking a dvd comparison shot last night,between the htpc and the xbox360.
Same camers,same settings,same distance,no doctoring,etc,etc.
I was quite surprised...

This is the htpc shot,using zoom player,fdd show,dscaler5 codec...



And this is with the xbox360,displaying at 1024 x 768...



Not bad,I reckon??
Cheers P biggrin.gif

Seems to be working (for now!) huh.gif
Litherish
QUOTE (mikelish @ Feb 16 2006, 07:01 PM) *
"No original xbox titles are higher than 480,as the xbox couldnt output a higher resolution.
"

By punisher
Completly False.

Ok...so can you explain why? huh.gif Because all the games I have on the Xbox, the best resolution I can get is 480p...
DarkMeat
QUOTE (Litherish @ Feb 18 2006, 02:14 PM) *
Ok...so can you explain why? huh.gif Because all the games I have on the Xbox, the best resolution I can get is 480p...

Well it looks like us older xbox guys will have to just sattisfy with 480i which isn't bad as a matter of fact the xbox and ps2 now have a higher resolution that the regular cable input to my pj. There must be a way to connect a system to a hdtv tuner and patch it through to the pj so it can be upscaled. Until then I await more Pun pics and my Ebay search continues.
pun15her
I know that the UK spec original xbox had the HD capability disabled,unless soft modded.
Cant help you with the US version,sorry! P smile.gif
EdZ
QUOTE
Ok...so can you explain why? huh.gif Because all the games I have on the Xbox, the best resolution I can get is 480p..

OK, a few titles support 720p, almost all the rest can support 480p. I don't think any support 1080i.

However, in the UK, all xbox consoles only output 480i, and the games also enforce this. You can modify the dashboard or perform other hacks to get foreign games to display in igher resolutions, but if you then try to connect to Live like this your xbox's key will be revoked and you will be banned from Live.

::EDIT:: Darn, beaten to the punch by Pun15her.
pun15her
One more PGR3 pic.
Seeing as I knocked the 360 over and scratched the disc,and it wont play now!!! sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif



I found the auto timer on the borrowed camera! Hoorah!
It was the button on the back marked "Auto Timer" dry.gif
Cheers P biggrin.gif
pun15her
My phantom picture taking ISP Gremlin appears to have struck again! sad.gif
Sorry guys,they said it was a server problem,but I am not so sure. dry.gif
It was a nice pic of a Mclaren,FYI. biggrin.gif
Andy
The photo isnt working.

Andy

edit: you got there before me tongue.gif
pagercam
How long is it before your daughter can see again, after being blinded by the PJ? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Litherish
Hey pun15her you said you scratched the disc when the 360 got flipped over? Call Xbox services and they will replace the scratched disc, and they will also give you some free games, or at least thats what I read in an article a few weeks ago.
blake
More 360 pics! These are AWESOME! biggrin.gif
pun15her
QUOTE (pagercam @ Feb 20 2006, 03:25 AM) *
How long is it before your daughter can see again, after being blinded by the PJ? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

He he,poor thing,she is used to it now,and has developed quite a nice tan!!!! biggrin.gif
pun15her
QUOTE (Litherish @ Feb 20 2006, 03:26 AM) *
Hey pun15her you said you scratched the disc when the 360 got flipped over? Call Xbox services and they will replace the scratched disc, and they will also give you some free games, or at least thats what I read in an article a few weeks ago.

Cheers,Litherish,I gave them a ring,but was told that I would have to pay to have the game and console shipped to MS,and if it was decided that the damage was due to movement,I would be charged for their time too! sad.gif
The nice man on the phone suggested taking it back to the shop and saying it was like that when I bought it! dry.gif
I think I will have to suck it up and fork out for a new copy. smile.gif
pun15her
QUOTE (blake @ Feb 20 2006, 08:47 AM) *
More 360 pics! These are AWESOME! biggrin.gif

Can do,Blake.
With pleasure.
I have registered with photobucket,(thanks FS!).
So should get more reliable pics now! smile.gif
pun15her
Some Quake4 pics







And a halo2





Cheers P smile.gif
pun15her
And some more yummy halo goodness...









Cheers,P biggrin.gif
DarkMeat
Great pics Pun one question though does the 260 automaticaly give yuo a vertical split screen with Halo2 now? Just strange seeing it that way I'm used to the horizontal spit screen also is quake 4 any good I've been waiting for another one to come out.
ChristmasGT
I remember it being really weird to switch Halo 2 to go into Horiz Splitscreen....I just can't remember for the life of me what it was.


Google it?
pun15her
Thanks guys.
The 360 automatically selects vertical split screen mode,when it detects a widescreen output....
But I am outputting at 1024 x 768!! sad.gif
This is a "quirk" with the 360.I am hoping it will be fixed,as it is a pain in the butt!!
Quake4 looks great,and is good fun,but I cant help but think there is something lacking!
Not sure what it is,though.Sure makes me jumpy,playing on the big screen!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Cheers P!
Paul3ct04
Wow! amazing.

Punisher, do you know how much light lose for single folded design( or vertical design) compared to non-folded?
Martin C
Hi

I've been lurking for a while and stumbled upon this post.

I'll clarify a few things here:

1. Changing your Xbox from PAL to NTSC will NOT affect your Xbox Live account. Since this is all that's needed to enable the HD resolutions, disconnect from the network/Xbox live, do the mod and you'll be ok from then on. A lot of people do this who are using Xbox live on a daily basis. The video mode is not one of the things Xbox checks from the EEPROM information. They currently check the Live Key, Serial Number and HDD Firmware ID. AFAIK They have no plans to check video mode.

Better still, if you know someone who has a copy of Splinter Cell (original) with a memory card and access to a chipped Xbox, you can change the output of an Xbox without even opening it up.

2. A few games do support 1080i - MX unleashed is one I can name since I've tried it successfully. Syberia also does, but looks better in 720p. There's a few databases online which list the supported titles. Here's one:

http://www.hdtvpub.com/productdb/games/index.cfm
pun15her
QUOTE (Paul3ct04 @ Feb 21 2006, 03:07 PM) *
Wow! amazing.

Punisher, do you know how much light lose for single folded design( or vertical design) compared to non-folded?

Thanks Paul3ct04,
I havn't built a straight shooter (yet!).There will be some loss in any fold.I wouldn't do any more than 1 fold,as I think the cons outweigh the pros.But one fold is certainly acceptable,for me at least.
There is some info on light loss when using mirrors,if I remember rightly,the figure was around 3%,but dont quote me on that,my memory is not what it used to be! smile.gif
Cheers P smile.gif
pun15her
QUOTE (Martin C @ Feb 21 2006, 04:44 PM) *
Hi

I've been lurking for a while and stumbled upon this post.

I'll clarify a few things here:

1. Changing your Xbox from PAL to NTSC will NOT affect your Xbox Live account. Since this is all that's needed to enable the HD resolutions, disconnect from the network/Xbox live, do the mod and you'll be ok from then on. A lot of people do this who are using Xbox live on a daily basis. The video mode is not one of the things Xbox checks from the EEPROM information. They currently check the Live Key, Serial Number and HDD Firmware ID. AFAIK They have no plans to check video mode.

Better still, if you know someone who has a copy of Splinter Cell (original) with a memory card and access to a chipped Xbox, you can change the output of an Xbox without even opening it up.

2. A few games do support 1080i - MX unleashed is one I can name since I've tried it successfully. Syberia also does, but looks better in 720p. There's a few databases online which list the supported titles. Here's one:

http://www.hdtvpub.com/productdb/games/index.cfm

Thanks Martin C.That is useful info.
If I changed my xbox to NTSC,could I play my PAL games on it?
I presume not?
When I first built my PJ,I was going to try and hook up my xbox,but decided it would be alot easier to wait for the 360.It seems to be alot easier,especially with the vga cable.No need for an N6,etc,etc.
Cheers P smile.gif
Martin C
QUOTE (pun15her @ Feb 21 2006, 05:34 PM) *
Thanks Martin C.That is useful info.
If I changed my xbox to NTSC,could I play my PAL games on it?
I presume not?
When I first built my PJ,I was going to try and hook up my xbox,but decided it would be alot easier to wait for the 360.It seems to be alot easier,especially with the vga cable.No need for an N6,etc,etc.
Cheers P smile.gif


I've had problems with NTSC on PAL systems (3:2 pulldown on FMV etc), but not the other way around. I'm almost positive I've never had a problem.

I'll double check tonight, just to be sure! Either way, it's something which is easy enough to change back.

Martin
makey
QUOTE (Martin C @ Feb 21 2006, 08:45 PM) *
I've had problems with NTSC on PAL systems (3:2 pulldown on FMV etc), but not the other way around. I'm almost positive I've never had a problem.

I'll double check tonight, just to be sure! Either way, it's something which is easy enough to change back.

Martin


Dunno if this helps but, i've a softmodded pal xbox which has the enighma mode switcher installed into the dash. You can flip between pal/ntsc at will and most games (the x2vga needs the ntsc mode for high def output)I've tried have run no problem, tiger woods will not run for some reason.
Martin C
QUOTE (makey @ Feb 21 2006, 09:03 PM) *
Dunno if this helps but, i've a softmodded pal xbox which has the enighma mode switcher installed into the dash. You can flip between pal/ntsc at will and most games (the x2vga needs the ntsc mode for high def output)I've tried have run no problem, tiger woods will not run for some reason.


Not wanting to turn this into an Xbox thread, but beware of constantly switching modes. The Xbox EEPROM can only accept so many writes. True, it's around 10,000 but it's not infinite.
makey
QUOTE (Martin C @ Feb 21 2006, 10:24 PM) *
Not wanting to turn this into an Xbox thread, but beware of constantly switching modes. The Xbox EEPROM can only accept so many writes. True, it's around 10,000 but it's not infinite.

Not to be goin on too much about the xbox, but a friend of mine modded it and has set up a virtual epprom. I'm not 100% sure how it works but it sets up a virtual eeprom so it never actually writes to the hardware. You can read how to do this at xboxscene using Nkpatcher.
So no worries smile.gif Hopefully!!!
pun15her
It is all good info,guys,don't worry.
I have read that Tiger Woods has been patched to work on the 360,but still does not work at all in any of the HD output modes.
Cheers P smile.gif
Martin C
QUOTE (pun15her @ Feb 22 2006, 01:06 AM) *
It is all good info,guys,don't worry.
I have read that Tiger Woods has been patched to work on the 360,but still does not work at all in any of the HD output modes.
Cheers P smile.gif


This is slightly puzzling me - the 360 should output ALL games in HD, regardless of whether it's an Xbox or 360 title.

Either way, I don't think it'll matter as much since the VGA cable will give a far superior picture!
loogie
Aesome projector, I'm gonna try this on a smaller scale with a PSOne screen.
pun15her
Thanks Loogie! biggrin.gif
I look foreward to reading your PLOG!

Good news,I polished the scratch out of my Project Gotham disc!! biggrin.gif
I bought a disc.polishing machine from E-Bay,which broke in under 5 mins! sad.gif
The polishing liquid supplied didn't touch the major scratch on the disc
But I thought what the hell,so I hand polished it using left over metal polish from my reflector!!!
This got the scratch out,then I used the disc polishing liquid,and hey presto!!! biggrin.gif
Saves spending £50 on a replacement!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
pun15her
To celebrate the resurection of my pgr3 disc! biggrin.gif
Click on the thumbnails for the bigger picture!









pun15her
Qnd a couple more...









Cheers P biggrin.gif
DarkMeat
QUOTE (pun15her @ Feb 24 2006, 04:44 PM) *
Qnd a couple more...









Cheers P biggrin.gif

Wow not jealous no not jealous at all, wonderful pics Pun so when are you going to post your DOA images? Now need to buy another copy of PGR I have no racing titles for my xbox.
pun15her
He He.
Thanks DarkMeat.
I am totally addicted to PGR.I got upto level 36 on PGR2,But am ranked 18023 in the world on PGR3!!!!! ohmy.gif
I Dont know what the hell is going on!!!
It is all good though,I am not as serious as ALOT of people online,man it is scary sometimes. sad.gif
At the end of the day,it is just a game,and most people are just out to have a bit of fun! smile.gif
I get a bonus from work on tues,so will get DOA4 then,I am really sad coz I am really looking foreward to putting it on the big screen,and I am 37! sad.gif dry.gif biggrin.gif
Cheers P
pun15her
Yay,got DOA4 today.
Christmas was right,this game is stunning on the pj...











Click for more detail.
Warning these are quite big pics!!! biggrin.gif
Cheers P biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Litherish
Looks like you have been playing with only the girl characters eh? wink.gif
pun15her
QUOTE (Litherish @ Feb 28 2006, 11:34 PM) *
Looks like you have been playing with only the girl characters eh? wink.gif


Oh yeah!!! biggrin.gif
On the big screen?You know it! biggrin.gif
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