How did those make that?
I had understood at that time that Minoten had the data.

From where can I get these data?
Or how can I adjust it without data?
The controller programming via the Kontron-software should be very simple.
Does the Taiwanesi manufacturer have not now the data? After programming those must know those.
If we find the data together, we can use a better and cheaper controller.

Let us try to get the data .

u can actually use something else as the lcd controller ( a lot cheaper and better)
step 1. go to ebay and buy a 15" wuxga lcd (mine was a dell)
step 2. search around for a week or two until you find a shatter cracked or broken 24" dell widescreen monitor
*this monitor is called 2405fpw and is 1900 x 1200 and i think te same refresh rate as the dell 15"
step 3. after you get both, dissasemble them and use the 24" lcd boards as a controller for the new lcd
* this 24" board has inputs for composite, dvi-d , vga, s-video, and component

basically it is amazing
and u just saved like 200 - 300 dollars by not buying that stupid lcd controller

good luck

i have not yet tried this, but theoretically it should work

So the 24" uses the same connectors as the 15.4"? Do you have some pictures of this setup in action?

Not saying I don't believe you, but posting pics would help alot

Humph....2405fpw ->16ms gray to gray response time. How is this working out for you so far?

Using a controller of another monitor for the wuxga is a good idea. However, as someone pointed out, there could be problem. I wonder why people didn't take this road, or even take an old notebook's parts with some guide for this (I am sure it's possible, but the effort could be monumental).

It's more like the 'risk' is monumental than the 'effort'...<g>
It WOULD be nice if someone stumbled-over such a DIY-approach that actually worked for the slew of similar 15.4-wugxa's...especially if the monitor-guts were easy/cheap to come-by, for example from a corporate warranty repair location...[nice, but unlikely].
But...ideal (for us) would be someone (in China <hint><hint>) starting at 'source' to obtain non-AG'd/non-backlighted/low-ms 15.4"-wuxga's (or smaller/lesser/cheaper-panels), pre-matched with controllers geared for HT/PJ's...and 'cheap'.
The fellow supplying the local/Chinese market with the 10.6's/controllers/fresnels/lighting/etc. would be the obvious person to set-up such local-sourcing with. Since he serves a similar 'community' already, I would think that it would be a fairly straight-forward proposition to get him to locate an English-major, or someone here locate an exchange-student, and put together our 'mutually beneficial interests' leading to a Trading-section listing or web-store. [If 'someone' already involved doesn't, in fact, do this soon -- I may jump in both-feet...!<g>]
Virtually every regulation/incentive from our government AND theirs is geared towards promoting/enabling/encouraging such out-sourcing and 'trading-entrepreneurship' -- one may as well 'take advantage' of the trend?

[quote name='HapHazard' date='Dec 31 2006, 09:40 AM' post='198981']
It's more like the 'risk' is monumental than the 'effort'...<g>

I hear ya. How about this: get a decent laptop with WUXGA. Extend the FFC cable (doing whatever it takes: replace, patch, clamp, ...), then use the laptop as the computer, controller, dvr, dvd player, etc., and the LCD as the projector screen.

This may cost a bit more. However, if buy an old one it may not be as costly. Also, if you subtract the dvd player cost, the dvr (install mythtv) cost, you'll get more.

The cons: laptop is not very expandable. It may not be a good gaming platform. Startup time is relatively slow for TV watching (added cost of the tv card).

Some people are claiming the G2A controllers made for the Sharp panels will work with the Samsung LTN models and some people are claiming you can use controllers from other standalone monitors. Have either of these methods actually been CONFIRMED?

Dobie Huang says they can do the BIOS change on the G2A for $345 +$100 (which I assume is for labor and shipping costs). But an additional $445 with 6-8 weeks waiting period just doesn't seem worth it.

So what options do I truely have for my Samsung LTN154?

I use the G2A130 (as shipped, $345, no bios tuning) with a Samsung 15.4" wuxga, works just as it should.

LTN154U1 LCD and Controller
LP154WU1 LCD and Controller

controller Summary :
can support such panels as follow: product is designed for TFT LCD PANEL; the maximum RGB resolution is WUGA(1920x1200). It can support 24 bit color image and check the signal within the range of 30-80 KHz H Frequency and 56-75Hz V Frequency synchronously and automatically.
Can support such panels as follow: has multi-language OSD menu and contains 2×2W power output and has the function of audio amplifying as well as numeral audio control. The volume can be controlled by the numeral remote controller.
function Mode: YPbPr/VGA/AV/S_V/TV input.
Email:carpow@126.com

Are there any datasheets for this controller (i.e. resolutions accepted, deinterlacing, SOG support, etc)?

I'd like to know that too, and I'd like to know who might be able to sell these, and how much?

Frankly, if it supports 1080p on DVI/VGA & Component, and actually HAS component inputs... I would be VERY interested in it!

I have one of those kits, I will be testing it tonight

It does have component & vga inputs -- testing to follow (as indicated). And...'the price is right'. <g>
As for data-sheets, the chipsets are: RTD2533V (controller/color-engine)+RTD2613 (2D/3D-decoder) & inputs: YPbPr/VGA/AV/S/TV.
I've not been able to locate the datasheets for these yet...we are told it will support the Samsung 15.4/wuxga, can support the Sharp, but may not fully-support the LPhilips/Toshiba (although these other-panels may-or-not require an updating/flash for full-support).
There is no dvi/hdmi digital-input on this controller...

I can't wait to see the result, price and the analysis of this product.

LTN154U1 LCD and Controller
LP154WU1 LCD and Controller

controller Summary :
can support such panels as follow: product is designed for TFT LCD PANEL; the maximum RGB resolution is WUGA(1920x1200). It can support 24 bit color image and check the signal within the range of 30-80 KHz H Frequency and 56-75Hz V Frequency synchronously and automatically.
Can support such panels as follow: has multi-language OSD menu and contains 2×2W power output and has the function of audio amplifying as well as numeral audio control. The volume can be controlled by the numeral remote controller.
function Mode: YPbPr/VGA/AV/S_V/TV input.


As stated by carpow in the above he has it listed with the Samsung LTN154U1 lcd and the
LG Philips LP154WU1 lcd. Are the Sharp panels also supported ? I too am eagerly awaiting the results of the test !!!

Just got my controller from carpow and I think it will work great if I can figure out how to get power to it. Please help. I know what most of the connections are for but am at a loss on a few. Where/how does the controller get power? How much power? Do I need to order some crazy power supply from China or can I pick one up at Radio Shack?

Sharp panels also supported .

note: the DC 12v power inside is + / outside is -

carpow i don't see any DVI input. Is there any conncetor (pins) on the panel for attaching a DVI-D socket by a ribbon cable?

Again, we are told it cannot support digital/dvi-input (several boards have pin-in's allowing component add-on -- because it's analog like vga, and where SoG is present, this is 'easy'--dvi/hdmi requires specific-support, in chipset and on-board). If the datasheets can be located (I tried and failed...), this might-just be 'bad info', re: the impossibility for dvi -- but I doubt-it.
And Carpow told me that Sharp's were 'possible', but LGPhilips were not...but 'who knows'?<g> He may have meant that in regards his purchase, locally, of panel -- or in reference to 'flashing'?
[His English and mastery-of-its-nuances is far...far...FAR better than my Mandarin(!), but there can be some difficulties with 'specifics' during correspondence. In our experience here, however, if a controller is fully-supportive of a Samsung and/or Philips, it also works for Toshiba/Sharp...at least, it's a 'good-bet'...]
Carpow is looking for a FLI596x-solution for me (and I'm trying a few-others near him and in HongKong for such)...in meantime, these are the only boards found yet for wuxga.

hmmmmmm vely interlesting... must ponder upon thisism

sorry, this is because my rather bad command of english, but a i couldn't catch you. the sharp and the philips panels are intercahngeable, even dell uses them both in the same nb models depending on availability. So, do you mean, that the onboard realtek chipset can't do DVI? It would be good to see the data sheet of the board.

This FLI596x sounds interesting. however I could buy kontron crt2lcd7-mm, but I need info for programming the kontron and a suitable cable for the panel. Have anybody succedded to collect the data sheet of LP154WU1? Or at least could we get the specs of the LQ154M1LW12 sharp panel (from minoten?)

What price can be had on that Kontron? And 'where'?

It's approx $250. My Reseller is MSC Budapest Ltd., Hungary.
But some issues:
- controller have to be set up for LP154WU1 (pnl file needed)
- LVDS cable needed.

I just found this thread, were we able to find out the price of the carpow model?

Well, if you're talking about the one listed at the top of page 34...

I have had a couple of very quick and simple PMs with Carpow, and he said:



That's what he quoted me, so the only thing I don't know about the price is whether or not it includes shipping and taxes (I don't think it does).

I know that after my 2nd paycheck (the end of the month, I just started a new job) I'll probably get one ordered!

HapHazard you have mentioned that carpow's gear is based on RTD2533V. If you look at the quick specs, this contorlles supports DVI+HDCP. I think I'm really messed aup...

Hey Johnzo 1995... Any news on that controller test?

Carpow controller is GREAT. I might be extra excited because it is the first time I actually saw images through my projector but for the $95 I paid to get it here I couldn't ask for more. Every input I tested worked like it was supposed to and the picture was way clear. I think that the menu display is kinda small and I could use a longer connecting cable between the board and my LCD but beyond that I think it was the right choice for me.

Yes Im finish testing the kit. The results are here. Im selling it because Im going to build a 10.6.

I've not yet had hands-on (and may not bother, if it ignores a digital-input of dvi/hdmi) -- so I can only repeat what I've been repeatedly told in correspondence -- "no dvi". Quick-specs also indicate 'no wuxga'...but that is countered by our-info/experience, also. [Go figure...<g>]
For chipset features to 'werk', they have to be both supported in board-hardware, and 'activated' in flash/eeprom. For example, the 2523B board sold to-date (both 'versions') SHOULD support SoG (for component>vga adapting/cabling). It does not. Yet.
This may be a simple-matter of code-rewrite, a dump, e-mailing, and installing via an eeprom-reader Stateside (seems to me to be a relatively 'straight-forward' and required 'fix'). But, I doubt enabling dvi on these boards would be a 'hardware-independant' process...
After enough 'reviews' [hint for krazeesteve], maybe this will 'clear up' and make-sense...and maybe the 2-boards for 10.6's will be properly-updated for all their features as-well?
[One can hope...<g>]
I now also-hear that the wuxga-board cannot display 720P in component, and maybe not 1080i [guesswork as to the-latter, more testing needed to say for sure]. Not good-newz, but apparently its flash is fine for vga, and for 480i/P using component -- at-minimum...

I was so excited getting my wuxga kit from Carpow (who's a really cool guy though) but shit happens:

Looks like TNT broke my panel. Such a tragedy!

I hope they'll sort this out quickly and I can have a healthy kit finaly. The reason I'm writing this post is that I'd like to ask if anybody has experiences with removing the AG from the LG-Philips panel? When I hold it in my hands I felt this is a really lightwheight one and I can imagine how fragile it could be. Probably I'll use it with the AG but seeing the results with removed AG says me: it would worth to try.

Ouch.....My wuxga was shipped in a bubble wrap envelope with bags stuffed on the sides. It shipped and works though .

It was shipped the same way. The box got a huge hit and tha panel had no chance to survive...

That why I pack my stuff in 1.5-inch foam on both side so that wont happen. Carpow is a really cool guy, he will take care of you.

Yes, he's defenately a great guy, but it wasn't his mistake so I have to wait for the TNT's answer. They are resposible for this mess.

Does anyone have idea when Carpow plans to appear again?
I just got bad news from the local TNT office, the claim only can be stated by the sender because the sender is the person (or company) who contracted with TNT.
It's funny, isn't it?

The reason I'm writing this post is that I'd like to ask if anybody has experiences with removing the AG from the LG-Philips panel?

I Removed the AG off my LG Phillips. It was a "BEAR" to remove.About 40 pieces and 20+hours of soaking it finaly came off. Now I'm replacing the polarizer.I wish you luck ...

Yeah, the whole thing about sender having to file the claim kind of sucks.. But I guess it cuts down on people filing false claims.

Here is the suckage that is UPS.. lol


Thankfully it is a ballast and it didn't hurt it, but my Bulb that fedex shipped didn't fair so well.

Ah so you have the LG Phillips kit from carpow! I'll definitely be keeping in eye out for your posts as I'm considering the same purchase.

I don't really have the kit because the shipping accident. Finaly Carpow showed up and promised me to sort this out quickly. He's the man of his word so I just have to wait what time makes out...

anyone know this difference between the samsung LTN154u1 and LTN154u2? Does carpow's work with the u2?

There is no difference. The last 2 numbers/letters just designate which laptop they are replacements for.

ahhh.... sweeeeettt....

Thanks jonjan

Is 462,13 USD (incl transport from china to europe) a reasonable price for a new Samsung ltn154 WUXGA panel with controler (component, coax, vga)?

See this link for a picture:
http://www.samenkopen.net/action_product/863030/535640

I've bought LG Philips LP154WU1 from smartmicrousa.com for $269, shipping was $40, and got the same controller from carpow for $110, including shipping. so grand total is $419 but with 2 shippings.

Ok, it's a Realtek controller right?

Now I don't know if there is much difference between de LG and the Samsung. If not, it's rather expensive

Do you use this controller with a dvd player over component or are you using a pc..?

LG has a much better refresh rate and a higher contrast ratio.

Did Carpow quote you guys $238 for both the controller and the LCD panel ?