The thing about using an entire laptop instead of just a controller is that you would have to play everything with the laptop. This is fine for normal video files, but once you want to play Nintendo through it you're screwed. Even if you can get the video on the screen, it won't be correct. The sound wont be right (because it'll be ahead of the video) and playing games would be impossible (try playing a twitch game with 100ms of lag...).

I think the same can be said for the motherboard, sure it would be nice for everything to be in one box (except the obsolesance and heat issues) but it just wouldn't work.

That makes perfect sense to me, I didn't really take that into consideration.
Depending on ones intended use, that may or may not be the ideal solution.
If someone is planning to make an HTPC primarily for watching movies, or playing PC Games (Battlefield 2!) then this should be great, since it wont require an HTPC and a seperate gaming PC.
As for heat issues, those are fairly easy to overcome if it's the goal.
Though, since I have, and intend to use my Xbox360 with the PJ, this solution doesnt work for me.

Thanks for the insight

If there is a fourth group buy I'd like to get on the list for Panel and Controller. Thanks.

http://store.earthlcd.com/s.nl/sc.7/catego...it.A/id.4513/.f

Check out this link. It appears to be an LCD controller similar to the one being offered in the group buy. There are many other useful items on the same site you may be interested in.

Thats only a 1024X768 controller... we're looking at WUXGA aka 1920X1200 also Sync on Green is a must have feature for most.

Can someone with a working panel/controller help me debug my WUXGA kit? It was working, but no longer. All is hooked up correctly, but fails to produce an image. I am unsure if it is the controller or the panel, and have no way to test. If it is the controller, I could then RMA it (if it's the panel, then I'm hooped). I need someone to test the controller against a working panel and the panel against a working controller. I will cover all shipping charges and a bit more for your time.

Thanks!

Is your LCD stripped ? ... and not working.

gs

Please Count Me in For Both LCD and Controller for the Fourth Group Buy !!!
Good Luck to ALL !!!

anyone have an idea how many people signed up for a fourth group buy? ...and how many more people we need? ...and assuming that those people come out of the woodwork are we even going to have another group buy? just wondering... its too bad there aren't more sources for such a good buy.

Hi.
I have a question regarding these controllers (for WUXGA panels). I was reading on winmate page it's a dual LVDS channel controller. As far i know all these TFT panels are 1ch LVDS; how does it work ?
What type of LVDS connectors are there?
Because i have another controller from LCD TV Sanyo 27"(WXGA display, HDCP compatible, all inputs posible ) ) which is also 2ch LVDS interface and a TFT panel(Samsung WXGA LTN 154x1-L01) with 1ch LVDS interface.
Is it ok just to use a cable and conector which leads to panel and solder the 14 wires to cable-controller part, which has 28 wires (1 wire from panel side solder to 2 wires from controller part) ?
Or is there more to it ?

Nice Stuff!!!
I do agree with you.

any news from another group buy minoten? i would deffinately be interested in group buying

There are no more group buys for the controller boards because my discovery a couple of months ago of a U.S. distributor offering these controllers that work with the WUXGA panels right out of the box has made importing from Asia wholly unnecessary. The price offered by the distributor is furthermore comparable to the price in minoten's group buys.

There will most likely be no more group buys for the panels either, since I now believe that the Sharp panels are no longer really stocked anywhere. Your best bet would be to go on eBay and get 15.4" WUXGA panel that was made by a manufacturer other than Sharp. You'll save a lot of money (at least $100), and you most likely wouldn't know the difference between one of these and one of the Sharps.

i was mainly interested in the LCD anyway as i am in talks with the email adress you provided earlier on in the thread for the G2A board. i definately want a sharp LQ154M1LW12 LCD and since those are newer, it shouldnt be too hard to find them in bulk i would think would it? otherwise, what WUXGA screen at 1920x1200 res would you recommend buying that will be compatible out of box with this controller that you know of?

do we have any idea if the samsung LTN154U1-L04, -L03, -L02 work with the G2A crontroller board? if so, those can be had easily off ebay along with the -L01 models too (-L01 are mostly listed under dell laptop replacement screens for inspiron 9100/XPS laptops) and can be had anywhere from 200-470 USD

Based on my own experience and the experience of some others here, any panel compatible with the Sharp panel should work. That means that Samsung, Toshiba, and LG Philips should work. In fact, my own Sharp panel died and I had to resort to getting a Samsung panel to make sure that my G2A board worked. So I know for a fact that the Samsung panels work as long as you can confirm that the G2A board that you're getting has been programmed to support WUXGA on 15.4" panels such as those from Sharp. Apparently, the California reseller buys them from the manufacturer preprogrammed, since I have now read on another thread that he is telling people that the boards need to be flashed with the right BIOS. You'll need to ask the guy to make sure that what would be getting would work. All I know is that I was promised that my controller would work with my panel out-of-the-box, and essentially this proved to be true.*

*I say "essentially" because the first controller that I received from the guy didn't work. Either it wasn't programmed right or was just a lemon, but I got him to send me a replacement, which worked. Make sure that you have his express guarantee that the controller that you receive will work for the 15.4" panels (give him the Sharp's model number for reference, although Samsung should also suffice) so that if you have an experience like mine, you can at least get an RMA just like I did.

hey ydg

will these work? LTN154U1L01

whats the # to the guy the supplies the cards in the US?

Here is an email I received from the CA supplier:

We Shipping UPS Ground; delivery time depend where u live.

My G2A kit inventory only work with Sharp W02 and W12.

Our G2A can also work with LG 15.4" Panel model: LP154WU1-A1, but with
special order only.

If you live in CA, then I need to charge you 8.5% tax.

Dobie Huang
Business Development Manager
AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL SYSTEMS, INC.
1768 McGaw Ave.
Irvine, CA 92614
Tel: 888-485-6688 x460
Direct: 949-681-7460
Cell: 626-203-7977
Fax: 949-251-8697
Email: dhuang@aispro.com

does anyone know if you can use the 15" fresnels with the 15.4" monitors or are they too wide?

they (15.4in lcd's) are too wide... use pro fresnels (lumenlab) or 220/330mm 15.5in sets from diyprojector company...

brain... you should stock the latter it was unfortunate i had to be unloyal for that purchase

could someone who has a 15.4" panel please tell me what focal length they used for the projection lens. I am in a small room and I would like to have a large picture but I dont want to lose focus in the corners if i choose a focal length too short. has anyone used the 330mm fresnel with a 15.4" wuxga panel? are the corners clearly in focus?

I had the standard LL triplett and the 330/220 fresnel combo and the corners were "slightly" out of focus. Distracting with text but not so bad with movies.

I just did a search on ebay for "WUXGA 15.4" and it just streams an endless page of hi res results. Most of these seem to be laptop LCD screens and they are dirt cheap (some as low as $150 for 15" @ 1920x1200).

So my question is, how do you connect this screen to a controller?

minoten, if you're reading, anytime you're ready for order #4 for the screen and controller just let me know. I'm ready.

You will need approperate LVDS controller

The WUXGA controller kit that mintoen was selling comes with the appropriate cable that goes from the video controller board to the LVDS connector on the LCD controller board. It is a long thin metal connector... you can go to minotens website and download his manual on how to set it up... it's got pictures of all the parts.

cheers,
gs

QUOTE
nice!!! i was gonna try a LTN154U1L01

do you know if its been proven or disproven yet?

The Samsung panels that I have (I bought two) happen to be of just that model, and all I can say is that based on my own experience, the G2A that CA guy sold me was only guaranteed by him to drive the Sharp W01/W02/W12 panels, but it was able to drive my Samsung at full WUXGA resolution anyway. In fact, I've been recommending that people just get the Samsung panels instead since the Sharps are so rare now. If you do some more reading online yourself, you'll learn just as I did that as far as Dell is concerned, the Sharp, Samsung, Toshiba, and LG Philips panels are all compatible with each other: More than one LCD vendor has said this explicitly, and many auctions for Dell laptop replacement screens don't even mention the model number or manufacturer. My experience (and that of a few others on this forum) essentially proves that standards are involved in the design and manufacture of LCD panels.



now does the controller come with the cables to hook everything together?

i heard the supplier, supplies all those cables?

I just found this site:

http://www.digitalview.com/controllers/products.php

The SVH-1920 product looks VERY promissing but I need help in understanding what I'm looking at. I'm new to the BIY world of home theaters...

Would the SVH-1920 be able to hook up to a 15" 1920x1080 LCD from eBay? I'm guessing yes, but I'm also guessing it depends on which monitor.

I bought an inspiron 8500/8600 replacement screen and it was a sharp w02. do you think i would get a better screen if i bought a replacement for the inspiron 9100? i cracked the w02 trying to remove the antiglare layer. its tough on these laptop screens from what i hear. the next time ill just leave it on i think.

hi,
i was wondering, besides the sharp what is the best 15.4" wuxga that is compatible with the g2a. Also, out of what laptop does the Sharp come from.
Thanks

Well, the post above this one says that they got an inspiron 8500/8600 replacement screen, and it was a Sharp. Also, I bought a dell inspiron 8500, and the screen in it was also a Sharp.

these are the cables that come with the card

"Jeff,



Here is what u will receive with our G2A kit.



- A/D Board

- Inverter Board

- On-Screen-Display Board

- IR Remote Control

- Composite Cable

- S-Video Cable

- VGA Cable

- DVI-D Cable

- Power Adapter with Cables"

Has anyone bought the Wingate G2A kit from Dobie Huang? I contacted Dobie and kits are still for sale. Is there a contact for the W02s or the W12s?

Jandran, how is the response time of the picture look with 25ms with your glorious 180 incher? Have you ran any type of television on it yet? That response time is the only thing that has me on edge, I play a lot of games and watch action movies as well as sports. Your projector Jandran is basically the model I am following .

Minoten, you should have never retired from the game, the middle man route seems so much easier right now

I have NEVER noticed any ghosting with my projector. I play Xbox 360 and run Dvd's through it. And there are other members with the same Lcd that haven't seen any ghosting either.

What about the W12's from screentekinc? Does Using the glossy antireflective polarizer instead of the antiglare coating mean there is nothing to remove like there would be on a panel with AG? Anyone try this and compare it to a panel stripped of the AG?

http://www.screentekinc.com/Sharp-LQ154M1LW12.html

ScreenTek is useless. They never have the 02 or 12 in stock. I got my LCDs repolarized with an AR film from IDParts.com. They were cheaper than ScreenTek. I haven't tested the screens yet but they should work fine. They do look as good as when the AG film is removed.

I bought one from Dobie, I just received it Wednesday. It came with everything that ThePoliticalThinker said:
- A/D Board
- Inverter Board
- On-Screen-Display Board
- IR Remote Control
- Composite Cable
- S-Video Cable
- VGA Cable
- DVI-D Cable
- Power Adapter with Cables

It also does indeed have a cable that goes between the G2A and the WUXGA. There is also a cable that goes between the G2A and the inverter, and two that go between the G2A and the control panel board (one cable for the buttons, one for the IR receiver).

I am just condesing a few pages here please check for accuracy
G2A supports WUXGA

Data sheet
http://wftp.winmate.com.tw/winmate/pdf/G2A110.pdf
User Manual
http://wftp.winmate.com.tw/winmate/downloa...ser%20guide.pdf

$320 + shipping for one unit.

Definalty Works with
LQ154M1LW02
LQ154M1LW01
LQ154M1LW12 1920x1200 res

Probly Works With
LTN154U1-L01, -L04, -L03, -L02

Dobie Huang
Business Development Manager
AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL SYSTEMS, INC.
1768 McGaw Ave.
Irvine, CA 92614
Tel: 888-485-6688 x460
Direct: 949-681-7460
Cell: 626-203-7977
Fax: 949-251-8697
Email: dhuang@aispro.com

Comes With
- A/D Board
- Inverter Board
- On-Screen-Display Board
- IR Remote Control
- Composite Cable
- S-Video Cable
- VGA Cable
- DVI-D Cable
- Power Adapter with Cables

Also i love this

Here the other important one


NTSC uses pixels that are narrower than square (0.912), PAL uses pixels that are wider than square (1.094).

I really like those images too! Illustrates the size difference very well... (those that you posted are the most complete I've seen...)

Yeah the longer you look at them the more you see. There cool and i think it make all of this alittle less confuseing. I glad to see this thread up and running agian. It sort of died when minolten left. I am very intrested in getting a laptop high res screen in a projector lets keep this going.

I also went throught the specs on
http://www.digitalview.com/controllers/products.php
looks like these are options
WUXGA
SVH-1920 (ideal canidate)
SP-1600 *Has to downgrade

UXGA
DVI-1600
ALR-1400

Ill see if i can get a qoute.

Can someone please check this. What i am reading seams alittle unbelivable. But i think that this board will accept streaming media, ethernet conn, Linix onboard OS. Ect Please check.
http://www.winmate.com.tw/ipc/2S2M.htm

Another Board maybe we should attempt quuote same company
http://www.winmate.com.tw/ipc/2R2H.htm

This has been a good day check this out.
go here
http://www.winmate.com.tw/index.htm
in the lower right hand corner is a solutions kit find inside is the answer to all of your question looks like this board will support a varitey of lacd pannels. You have to check this out.

But Samsung is not on the list

Hmmm, haven't seen this one mentioned here before... It's kind of odd how it says several places that it'll support 1920x1200 but then in the middle it says:

Emial From DigitalView

Hello Eric,

All of our Controller and Accessories are sold through distribution. Our distributors are located @ http://www.digitalview.com/controllers/res...rth_america.php

We do not list panels that are supported by our controllers. Everything we do revolves around a specific panel, that you choose. Our Controller Solution Generator gives you compatible components based on that specific panel part number. We do not recommend any displays, we will try to support as many as we can. This is done on a part by part basis, and may require that you provide a PDF specification on the display, that we would then forward to Hong Kong to review and advise, if that panel is not listed in our Solution Generator.

Regards,
Tim

I have been researching and found a bunch of possible controler boards and laided them out in this spread sheet. I wonder which board is used in the LL projector. Have a look links are included.
Click to view attachment

this may be a stupid question, but if 1080p outputs at 1920x1080, why are most of the wuxga's i see at 1920x1200? if i am trying to display 1080p or 720p on 1920x1200 is there just going to be a slight letterbox effect?

my guess is it has something to do with the fact 16:10 ratio is nice 1.6 ratio, while 16:9 is 1.77777.... computers like nice integers like 1.6 for scaling (I would assume). 1080p is only a video resolution (HDTV). Why didn't they make it 1920x1200p ? good question. Someone i'm sure has the answer, but I don't think they were thinking about computer resolutions at the time... although it would have been nice if they had.

Yes 1080p on the WUXGA will be slightly "letterboxed" (ie. have black bars top and bottom). The nice thing about the controller is that you can select 1:1 fill, so 1080p material will have the black bars. 1280x1024 will only use those those pixels on the screen (black bars top and bottom and side to side)... of course this can be changed to zoom, fill, etc.... options in the OSD menu on the controller.

cheers,
gs

has anyone heard of this board? it seems great with the component and dvi input.

http://www.smartm.com/binary/files/Sunflower.pdf