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OKflyboy
Probably not news to everyone, but I sure thought it was cool! I've been watching the show Gearz on Speed channel lately. The host is building a V8 Ford powered Miata he's calling the "Banshee" using the "Monster Miata" kit.

Here's the show's website with the official "Banshee" project page. And here's the writeup on it:

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Banshee

So, weÃ×e got a whole bunch of people sitting around in lawn chairs, polishing their ÅÃaby with a diaper and talkin about the ÅÈood ol days What fun is that? To make matters worse, there are a lot of gearheads out there who would love to get their hands on a classic muscle car so they could really DRIVE and enjoy it, but they just canÃÕ afford it. So, I decided it was time to go back to the original mindset of Carroll Shelby and the Cobra, and stuff a high horsepower V8 into a tiny, late model sports car and call it ÅÕhe Banshee because it is going to be a screamin machine.



The first generation Mazda Miata was a perfect choice for this kind of transformation because just like the AC Ace that Carroll Shelby used, itÃÔ generally considered a girl, sissy car and about the farthest thing from a macho, hot sportscar as you can get. Bit, if you dig past the MiataÃÔ image, you find a pretty serious sports car platform under the skin. Perfect to tweak with



The best part is, by using a mid-90ÃÔ Mazda Miata, you not only have a car that is readily available they built a billion of ÁÆm.



they are not so old that they are all rusty, requiring a complete restoration to get ÁÆm back on the road, (you donÃÕ have to build a whole car).



they have a good top, (something the Cobra only dreamed of).



they have power windows, power brakes, power steering, air conditioning all the good stuff that you want in a modern daily driver, and the potential to be WICKEDLY FAST!!!



and finally, they are CHEAP! I got mine with a bad engine off eBay for $2500 with no rust. It has all the above options, and IÃ×e seen ÁÆm even cheaper than that so you canÃÕ beat the price.


Its pretty interesting stuff, but in 2 episodes he's done the teardown, then the basic fitting of the new motor (a 400hp carb'ed 5.0). I've seen this show move really quickly through some projects, so I was somewhat disappointed that I didn't get to hear it rumble by the end of the 2nd episode. sad.gif

Anyway, seriously cool project, and it's got me rethinking my man-toy priorities all over again...

Here's part of the first episode:



And here's a 5.0 Miata I found on youtube:



So, anyone else think this is just an awesome idea?





Here's a few videos by other people:












And I just finished reading:

http://iansmonstermiata.com...y=entry080305-193111

A builder's blog, chronicling his build from start to finish.

Dang thing fits!!!

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OKflyboy
QUOTE (OKflyboy @ Jan 30 2009, 01:53 AM) *


I really like the red and white one in the video above. Something about those removable hardtops that I really really like. They (hardtops) cost almost as much as a used Miata, though (~$2500)!
Camman
Yeah pretty cool. This is something gear heads have been doing since the intro of the miata... that really is the reason why it is a popular car. Its cheap, it handles relatively well, and you can turn it into a real monster.
OKflyboy
Bought my Monster Miata conversion manual tonight! Woo hoo!
samuraijack
"And so the end of OK's life ( as he knew it) came into full focus."
SIMUL8R
Goddangit fly! That GRZ vid got my juices pumpin tongue.gif This would be an extreme build, 4'gs for the kit, eh?....hmmm
OKflyboy
Its been a bumpy weekend. I'm waiting on my Federal tax return before I can buy the donor car, but it should be here this Friday. There were four NAs (1st gen Miata, NB being second gen etc) in my area in my price range, and I was just biding my time.

We had some freakishly warm weather this weekend... and ALL FOUR of them sold on Saturday.

So, I decide I'll just buy that cheap 5.0 that's been sitting on Craigslist for a few weeks and content myself and the kids with rebuilding that for a while......... freakin' thing SOLD Sunday!!!!

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Camman
finding a 5.0l should not be a problem they are everywhere. Check the mustang boards if you cant find them anywhere else. Stangnet corral etc.

edit: at least on the bright side people are buying things... all I hear about is how nobody is buying anything blink.gif
OKflyboy
QUOTE (SIMUL8R @ Feb 9 2009, 03:00 PM) *
Goddangit fly! That GRZ vid got my juices pumpin tongue.gif This would be an extreme build, 4'gs for the kit, eh?....hmmm


"Welcome to the party, pal!"

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OKflyboy
Gotta love Craigslist. I posted this add a few days ago -

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WANTED: Dead Mazda Miata - $1000 (Oklahoma)
Date: 2009-02-07, 11:41PM CST

I want a "bad motor / straight body" 1990-97 Mazda Miata for a father-son "hot rod" project. I will pay up to $1000 depending on condition.

- Engine and Transmission can be gone but everything else must be there

- Can be ugly, but must have relatively straight body (hail dents and the like OK but no twisted-bodied wrecks)

I am in the Tulsa area but I'm willing to travel to get a good deal. Email me at the address listed in the title. Pictures would be helpful. Thanks


So far I've received a couple of decent leads, and about a dozen dead ends (oh, and 1 Nigerian scammer "Hello Dear Seller, I would like to know if this Your Item is still for sales" rofl).

So far I've had a couple of people reply with "I have such and such Miata for sale for $3000 write me back if interested." to which I replied "Your asking price is above my range. I stated very clearly in my ad that I can only pay up to $1000. Since you replied to my ad I'm assuming you're accepting my $1000 offer?" Shockingly none of those people bothered to write me back.

Then I've had a couple write me about obvious wrecks "I've got a Miata with front end and hood damage, I'll keep the motor and take $1000 for the rest" - haven't even bothered to write that guy back yet...

Of course I'm polite, but I'd really like to reply with "Did you even READ the ad?!?!"

I even had a couple who wrote me to point out Miatas they'd found on Craigslist that looked like they would fit my bill. I actually think that's a pretty cool thing to do, although I watch Craigslist regularly and had seen everything they pointed out already...
Quasi_Mojo
What kind of gas mileage would a Miata with a V8 get?
And I know that the sound of the engine is one of the reasons that people put in a V8, but is it possible to have a quieter engine sound?

'Scuse my Car noob-ness.
OKflyboy
QUOTE (Quasi_Mojo @ Feb 10 2009, 11:48 PM) *
What kind of gas mileage would a Miata with a V8 get?


Mileage is dependent on the driver and his/her right foot, but with a stock Mustang motor you should see mileage a little better then the stock Mustang itself. I'd assume a light foot on the pedal would get you roughly 15 city/ 25 highway while a heavier foot would get you less (sometimes much much less wink.gif )

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And I know that the sound of the engine is one of the reasons that people put in a V8, but is it possible to have a quieter engine sound?


Not easy in a car like this. The desire most have for that V8 rumble aside, there's not much room under the car for mufflers large enough to do much 'muffling', so the V8 rumble is really part desire, part necessity.

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'Scuse my Car noob-ness.


No worries, I'm just learning about all of this myself.
OKflyboy
My conversion manual arrived today! Woo!
SIMUL8R
Hey fly, I'm digging this guy's work on his Miata. Dam thing is sick.
Camman
QUOTE (Quasi_Mojo @ Feb 10 2009, 09:48 PM) *
What kind of gas mileage would a Miata with a V8 get?
And I know that the sound of the engine is one of the reasons that people put in a V8, but is it possible to have a quieter engine sound?

'Scuse my Car noob-ness.




You can most certaintly quiet down the v8. But as op has pointed out due to the lack of space it is going to come at the cost of higher back pressure. If you want to quiet it down to stock ford levels glasspacks and inserts would surely do the trick.

As far as gas mileage goes a well tuned STOCK v8 in a 2800 lb fox body mustang with a manual gearbox (t5) can get in the range of 20-25 mpg. A well built well breathing v8 can see higher than that if you stay out of it of course. Realistically tho you can count on around 16 mpg city, because honestly who wants to drive a small block ford like a grandma... its almost impossible not to want to feel that torque, well for me anyway.

I have one mustang that is a vert(heavy) with a well built motor making around 400hp with a t5 and I get 19mpg regularly with just normal driving. I have been known to get 11 or so but I am older(read married with kids) now biggrin.gif



QUOTE (SIMUL8R @ Feb 14 2009, 02:19 PM) *
Hey fly, I'm digging this guy's work on his Miata. Dam thing is sick.



Wow that thing is pretty sick! with a ls6 no less, that car is going to be crazy fast.. and with the wider track it is very remeniscant of the ac cobra biggrin.gif
OKflyboy
Wow, meant to update this thread a while ago. I had a broken down Miata ready to buy, the deal made, just waiting a few days until my day off to go get it, but... My mom called me out of the blue and told me she was buying a new truck in May and offered to give me her '02 Z-28 if I agreed not to buy the Miata. Sooooo, I put the Miata on hold. The worst part is the waiting for the Camaro. I've driven it before (actually, it was loaned to me for almost a year several years ago) and I know it'll be a hell of a lot of fun but it sucks going from "I'm going to have a project car in a few days" to "I'm going to have a cool car in a few months". The waiting is killing me...

I've kept up on the research on the Miata, though, and still really really want to build one. I may go ahead and buy a beater Miata just to wrench on because, frankly, I NEED something to play with, dang it!
sdubb
A Z-28 ohmy.gif Now thats what I'm talking about a little older than 02 cool.gif . Sorry the Miata does nothing for me even with the V8 in it. wink.gif Thats just me though
Quasi_Mojo
This is not your typical Monster Miata:



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What do you get when you cross 34 years of higher education, 10 college degrees and six serious car geeks with a $500 racecar? A pink Miata with Cadillac fins and a nasty turbocharged attitude, of course.

This is Eyesore Racing's entry into this weekend's 24 Hours of LeMons event in Reno, Nevada. You might remember these guys and gals. Their pimp-themed Honda CRX handily won the People's Choice award at last year's LeMons event at Altamont Motorsports Park.

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009...mons-racer.html
OKflyboy
Split my Camaro stuff out of this thread as to not dilute the "Monster Miata" awesomeness!! cool.gif

(Still REALLY REALLY want to build one, but it, like so many other projects I've discussed on LL, has been put away for a while)
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