dougr
Sep 11 2008, 05:13 AM
Read most of the 160 pages of the indexed antiglare thread, and have seen many opinions with regards to the specific panel I have, but would still like to solicit opinions based on experience with sharp wuxga panels. I've seen jonjandran (as much experience with the sharp panels as anyone from what I can tell) suggest that it is probably better to leave the antiglare on these panels. Polishing looks like a decent alternative, but I've been unable to find anyone that has actually tried it on the sharp wuxga panels. My concern is that if the a/g layers on these are so different (e.g. spray application?) that the tried and true stripping options don't work, that polishing may not work well either. I've messed around with a number of the polishing options on a spare (broken) lcd, and determined that the mothers mag results can be very slightly improved by first 'sanding' with a wet 12000 grit micro-mesh pad... seems to have a bit less of the underlying ripples after using the polish, but does not improve gloss much if at all. On a side note, there was much discussion about trying the mother's chrome polish, but it did not work nearly as well as the mag. Anyway, I'm worried that polishing the a/g may actual expose the polarizer on these panels (if it is indeed a sprayed a/g, and is significantly thinner than others). So... questions for those that have used the sharp wuxga panels:
1) Did you try to defeat the anti-glare, and if so, by what method, and was it successful.
2) Does anyone have any specifications on the anti glare layer (especially thickness)
3) Has anyone compared various polishes on the sharp wuxga panels (e.g. mothers mag, peek, etc.)
Thanks in advance.
Durachko
Sep 11 2008, 01:38 PM
This will be of limited help but . . .
SIM is pretty much a polishing expert. He'll likely stop by.
I bailed on a Sharp due to being afraid to remove the antiglare. I think I had (have???) a broken Sharp WUXGA very generously provided to me by another member I used for practice. I'll have to check my ploD (maybe you can too). I seem to remember I threw it away after experimenting with it? If I still have it I can send it to you for playtime experimentation. Gawd I hope it was a Sharp I had for awhile or I'll have to use this smiley yet again -->
Don't forget antiglare removal remains of somewhat controversial benefit so it may not be worth the risk with an expensive and nice WUXGA panel.
Best of luck!
venom2097
Sep 11 2008, 04:51 PM
I had good luck using some sandpaper followed by a watersoak. soaked +/- 3 hours pulled up a corner went down the eintire edge with a razor, once I got ~.5-1 inch I just grabed it and pulled up and inch or two then moved down an inch or so and did it again trying to keep it all even. Just repeated that over and over went amazingly good. Hardest part was just getting started. above used on the sharp xxx-w02. As long as it doesnt tear you should be able to pull it off in one piece.
But to be safe try polishing it, and if still not happy then strip it.
dougr
Sep 11 2008, 06:17 PM
QUOTE (Durachko @ Sep 11 2008, 06:38 AM)

I bailed on a Sharp due to being afraid to remove the antiglare. I think I had (have???) a broken Sharp WUXGA very generously provided to me by another member I used for practice. I'll have to check my ploD (maybe you can too). I seem to remember I threw it away after experimenting with it? If I still have it I can send it to you for playtime experimentation. Gawd I hope it was a Sharp I had for awhile or I'll have to use this smiley yet again -->
Don't forget antiglare removal remains of somewhat controversial benefit so it may not be worth the risk with an expensive and nice WUXGA panel.
Best of luck!
my sentiments exactly... I am leaning strongly against removing the a/g, and towards polishing but want to revisit peoples' experiences. Last thing I want to do is waste a perfectly good panel... not that anyone does, but I'm particularly hard up for funds at the moment. If you find that you still have that old wuxga around, I sure would appreciate having it for practice/experimentation.
Cheers!
SIMUL8R
Sep 11 2008, 08:27 PM
Can't say I worked on a WUXGA panel but I assume they are about the same as others such as XGA's, WXGA's, etc... The thing about a polar sheet is that it's comprised of layers. The polar is actually embedded (sandwiched) between 2 layers of what is called TAC. Antiglare is either etched on mechanically or chemically onto the top TAC while the lower TAC is adhesed onto the panel. There are sheets of polars that are much thicker because several more layers of enhancement films are then adhesed to the original sheet and this is to recycle the backlight within panels or on laptops. Now, these polar sheets can come in antiglared or nonantiglared, you will find some panels with this nonantiglare type film. With my 1st WXGA Samsung 10.6" (which I damaged then replaced with another) I found that the manufacturer actually adhesed a nonantiglare polar on top of antiglared polar which was actually easy to pull off. The adhesives encapsulated the antiglare such like placing a piece of clear scotch tape on top of the antiglare itself. With my second Samsung, I just left both on.
As far as polishing, I never thought of taking a fine sandpaper to the panel first before polishing. In the past I've just done straight regular Mothers polish with a little bit of water but in several applications. Now, I just perform this method once and then move to several applications with Mother's Billet polish which seems a bit more smoother in texture, thereafter. Polishing takes a little bit more effort (elbow grease) and even more so depending on personal gleam satisfaction but, personally, alot safer protecting the polar from damages like graining. Remember the TAC with the etched on antiglare once removed reveals raw polar that can easily be damaged. I strongly beleive the 2 TACS actually strengthens the polar's strand like structure and by removing the antiglared side promotes the possibility of graining to occur.
A member named Sensibul did a comparison of polished vs nonpolished on his projector and found good results on screen with pictures to show for. I'll see if I can find them and post a link.
dougr
Sep 11 2008, 08:56 PM
Much thanks... just reinforces my leaning to polishing. One thing I could not find was anyone that had actually tried chrome polish... many anticipated it may be the best for the final polish, but I found it clouded the surface (something chemical going on as well perhaps). I'll have to pick up some billet polish and give it a shot as the final.
I tried the micro-mesh first as a means of leveling the waviness that is revealed by the polishing... the speculation was that the various polishes would give nice gloss, but do nothing to smooth out the underlying ripples. My thoughts were that a nice sanding from micro-mesh would level the surface for polishing. I think it had some success, but I'd like to do more controlled testing with quality macro shots to inspect rather than just eyeballing it.
Thanks.
SIMUL8R
Sep 12 2008, 08:04 PM
dougr
Sep 12 2008, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (SIMUL8R @ Sep 12 2008, 01:04 PM)

Thanks... also saw a thread about stripping sharp wuxga panels that included an attempt by MarcoPolo to strip his with pics of the level of reflection he achieved:
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?s...hing&st=160I'm hoping he just didn't polish long enough, as I was able to QUICKLY achieve much better reflection than that on the scrap (non-wuxga) panel I have with Mother's Mag... nearly a mirror finish, but still some surface rippling coming through. Oh well, I think I've made up my mind to try the polish first and complete the PJ before doing anything risky... I'll post polish results here (or a link to my PLOG once I get that started).
Cheers!
cthauber
Sep 19 2008, 03:49 PM
I had no issues with removing the AG from my Sharp WUXGA
Got about 60% off after 12 hour soak, but then it started to stick a bit, so I let the rest soak for a further 6 hours. Pulled up in mostly one piece, just had to fight with a couple edges...nothing too bad though.
On the other side of the panel, the reflctive layers just pulled right off (with a good bit of pulling...but no soaking needed).
jonjandran
Sep 19 2008, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (cthauber @ Sep 19 2008, 11:49 AM)

I had no issues with removing the AG from my Sharp WUXGA
Got about 60% off after 12 hour soak, but then it started to stick a bit, so I let the rest soak for a further 6 hours. Pulled up in mostly one piece, just had to fight with a couple edges...nothing too bad though.
On the other side of the panel, the reflctive layers just pulled right off (with a good bit of pulling...but no soaking needed).
That's not going to be the Norm for 99.9% of the Sharp panels.
I've done 4 and only one turned out sort of easy. More people have ruined Sharp 15.4" panels than any other.
SeanyP321
Sep 19 2008, 11:46 PM
i also have a sharp wuxga. jonjandran has adv me not to remove ag and i will probably take his advice. can anyone tell me how much of a difference te process will actually make with the sharp screen?
Thanks,
s
waycte
Jan 25 2009, 02:33 AM
HI guys,
I successfully stripped the AG off the sharp WUXGA panel.
I used paint stripper. It took about 1hr to do (wiping off then reapplying over and over again) but when I was done no more AG.
Panel is working great.
Hope this helps
Wayne
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