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Elder
If a spindle mount is being included and a design already exists a picture would be great..

BC if your still open to this I'm thinking I will take you up on the offer to ship my micro with a grizz because of the international buying issue. How would I go about organizing/paying for this? Need some idea on how much it will effect shipping cost.
Khun Jean
^ That would be interesting to know. Shipping to the Netherlands is already expensive. Would be ordering a 'grizz' and sending it combined with the micro be possible?

hibble

Im also interested to know what the cost would be for a "spindle kit". May be not right away but if my home made mount dose not work out it could be a good upgrade option. Who knows over time you could offer a selection of kits such as 3d printing. Kits could also help to standardize settings in EMC2 when people ask what is recommended for different materials and attract customers who do not have access to the tools needed for there own quality spindle setup.

brainchild
QUOTE (llamatrails @ Sep 29 2008, 10:37 AM) *
Thanks for the encouraging words. As this will be my first precision capable tool, maybe I'm just fretting over the small stuff too much. The entire reason I decided to go with the micRo instead of some other companies cnc gantry unit - a small company that still takes pride in their work. smile.gif

Also why I'm waiting for your flex drive spindle holder - I don't have the tools (yet) to get the best precision possible at the start.

Still hanging in here, waiting for the real fun to start when my micRo arrives ...

Thank you!

QUOTE (davedavedave @ Sep 29 2008, 11:32 AM) *
I really appreciate your attention to detail and quality. It seems to be rare nowadays. I hope you know a lot of others feel that way too. I don't want to slight others as well. From what I can gather, you could look a long time before you would find a right hand like Robin. I also know that the obsession you put into your work, although it comes from a love of what you're doing, must find tremendous support and sustainability from Lustra (a great handle, I might add).

I guess you could look at it this way, your doing the right thing and producing a precise, well designed product has left you with some really fun toys, and expanded the range of your future products. Although, I would hate to think how long I would have to exist on Ramen noodles if I had to pay for them myself.

Question: Was the choosing of a standard spindle meant to inform the placement of the holes in the Z block only, or are you producing the tool holder for the Grizz handpiece (I assume yes)? If so, is that holder included in the package or should we order it separately?

Thanks Dave, and you are right about Robin and Kellie; amazing people! I will include mounts for anyone who wants them. We'll cross that bridge when the plastic is on 'the block'.

QUOTE (mas3773 @ Sep 29 2008, 11:40 AM) *
And...how far off is a holder? Will it be available at shipment of the micRo, or should I send in some special instruction to hold off shipment pending the tool holder?

Same time.

QUOTE (Elder @ Sep 30 2008, 09:17 AM) *
If a spindle mount is being included and a design already exists a picture would be great..

BC if your still open to this I'm thinking I will take you up on the offer to ship my micro with a grizz because of the international buying issue. How would I go about organizing/paying for this? Need some idea on how much it will effect shipping cost.

I will call Grizzly to check their inventory. Also, you'd need 240v? I found the factory that produces the spindle, and they offer the motor in 240v. I will check on the leadtime.

QUOTE (Khun Jean @ Sep 30 2008, 12:49 PM) *
^ That would be interesting to know. Shipping to the Netherlands is already expensive. Would be ordering a 'grizz' and sending it combined with the micro be possible?

Certainly.
just mike
i'm also interested in the Grizzly (110v) + spindle mount/holder please. plus, i'll still need an aluminum baseplate.

and, an all metal micRo certainly sounds interesting... what's the pricing difference?
mashupishu
Heyyy, a long long time ago from the last post. I am reading on the background without closing my eyes wink.gif.

First of all, BC, don't you need another child at your home?, despite my beard and 78kg you can have a new 33 years old adopted child.

wink.gif

Well as some here, I am also interested on the spindle and on the aluminum base plate too.

And, ummm here 1:40 am, time to dream about the micRo flying/sailing to home. Bye best regards to all.
Elder
QUOTE (brainchild @ Oct 1 2008, 06:31 AM) *
Thank you!

I will call Grizzly to check their inventory. Also, you'd need 240v? I found the factory that produces the spindle, and they offer the motor in 240v. I will check on the leadtime.


Ah nice find, yeah 240V out of the box would be nice!
tobias_svensk
QUOTE (Elder @ Oct 1 2008, 02:10 AM) *
Ah nice find, yeah 240V out of the box would be nice!


2nd that! and holder aswell.. and perhaps baseplate.. and.. wink.gif

/Tobias
brainchild
QUOTE (just mike @ Sep 30 2008, 05:14 PM) *
i'm also interested in the Grizzly (110v) + spindle mount/holder please. plus, i'll still need an aluminum baseplate.

and, an all metal micRo certainly sounds interesting... what's the pricing difference?

The price difference is about $200. Materials and machining take about 2.5x more time for Alum. I feel myself going into debt, so let me stop until I understand this!

PS:

The Griz spindle is made by Kingwin, the most known of the Chinese Foredom clones. They offer the tool in varieties like; bad, good, best....but the nature of the spindle is dependent on the bearings.

My notion is to import the basic tool sans China bearings, and "supplement" the bearings with ABEC 7.

QUOTE (mashupishu @ Sep 30 2008, 07:38 PM) *
Heyyy, a long long time ago from the last post. I am reading on the background without closing my eyes wink.gif.

First of all, BC, don't you need another child at your home?, despite my beard and 78kg you can have a new 33 years old adopted child.

wink.gif

Well as some here, I am also interested on the spindle and on the aluminum base plate too.

And, ummm here 1:40 am, time to dream about the micRo flying/sailing to home. Bye best regards to all.

Hi Mashu, Good to see you!

QUOTE (Elder @ Sep 30 2008, 08:10 PM) *
Ah nice find, yeah 240V out of the box would be nice!

This is really a non-issue if I just import the spindles rather than the Grizzly nonsense.

QUOTE (tobias_svensk @ Oct 1 2008, 01:58 AM) *
2nd that! and holder aswell.. and perhaps baseplate.. and.. wink.gif

/Tobias

I want to give you what serves you best, so please just tell me!
anstrange
BC--I'll throw my hat into the ring for picking up a mount + spindle kit ( If i read your previous postings correctly you are considering importing and setting up a spindle 'in-house'). Just let me know if there is someone else I need to tell and who to send how much cash ;-)

davedavedave
If anyone is wondering about upgrading their Grizz bearings, I just posted some pics in my RoBLOG "Waiting for Micro". It is very easy with minimal tools and made a huge difference in the feel of the shaft rotation.
brainchild
QUOTE (anstrange @ Oct 1 2008, 09:33 AM) *
BC--I'll throw my hat into the ring for picking up a mount + spindle kit ( If i read your previous postings correctly you are considering importing and setting up a spindle 'in-house'). Just let me know if there is someone else I need to tell and who to send how much cash ;-)

Ok. cool.gif
quadmasta
I'd like to have the information for the baseplate, tool holder, and spindle as well smile.gif
just mike
QUOTE (brainchild @ Oct 1 2008, 04:04 AM) *
The price difference is about $200. Materials and machining take about 2.5x more time for Alum. I feel myself going into debt, so let me stop until I understand this! ...

yes, stop. let us know more when you know more.

QUOTE (brainchild @ Oct 1 2008, 04:04 AM) *
... The Griz spindle is made by Kingwin, the most known of the Chinese Foredom clones. They offer the tool in varieties like; bad, good, best....but the nature of the spindle is dependent on the bearings.

My notion is to import the basic tool sans China bearings, and "supplement" the bearings with ABEC 7...

yes please, instead of Griz, i'm in for one "best" import with upgraded ABEC 7 (or whatever you determine is appropriate).

thanks!
answerguru
Spindle and holder...I'm in for that.
anstrange
Sounds like BC opened pandora's box... post-418-1138467352.gif

I bet you love how we all say "we want it now now now" and then you point out some new bling'tastic feature/addon/chrome-trim and we all change to "well...lets hold off just a little longer and get that!"

I see where this is going...in 30 years you'll be sending me a tungsten-carbide mill the size of my my house, powered by a cold fusion reactor. I, for one, have faith in you BC! biggrin.gif
Elder
The way I see it, BC is going to stock the spindles because the trouble for international orders so I guess he is thinking he might as well offer them for everyone. Obviously we are putting up more $$$ for this.

What I'm not clear on is if the spindle mount is coming standard or as an extra. Are we are putting up more $$$ for the spindle mount?
brainchild
QUOTE (Elder @ Oct 1 2008, 08:08 PM) *
The way I see it, BC is going to stock the spindles because the trouble for international orders so I guess he is thinking he might as well offer them for everyone. Obviously we are putting up more $$$ for this.

What I'm not clear on is if the spindle mount is coming standard or as an extra. Are we are putting up more $$$ for the spindle mount?

Nope, no charge for the mounts. I'm confident the spindle choice (308 bearing Foredom clone) is perfectly sized for the machine, so I intend to run-off the mounts with the rest. There may be some work required on your end; namely finishing work that eats badly needed shop-time; but you will have the precision machining.
brainchild
Just a quick update: The more powerful motors for the Y and Z arrived and they look great:

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And we also received the alum slit-couplers....I think you guys will like these better than my ho'made originals!

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Kauder
Haha, "ho'made"! Beautiful, everything! post-418-1138467278.gif
mas3773
*poke* *poke* So, how're things coming? I just watched the feature length videos from the Rogr thread and was wondering if all this has finally driven you to insanity. I'll admit, I half expected BC to do a shot of the hot sauce.

Looks like Rogr should be on the frame by the end of the day, then with the screws and servos tomorrow? Wired up with the controller computer by the end of the week? Machining micRo parts next week? Eh? eh? Not trying to put dead lines out there, just throwing out a plausible timeline? The three axes sitting across the horses was pretty inspiring.

With the upgraded motors and the couplers, unless I missed something, everything should be on hand, right?
Styrofoam_Guy
Please add me to the spindle and holder list

brainchild
QUOTE (mas3773 @ Oct 7 2008, 03:34 PM) *
*poke* *poke* So, how're things coming? I just watched the feature length videos from the Rogr thread and was wondering if all this has finally driven you to insanity. I'll admit, I half expected BC to do a shot of the hot sauce.

Looks like Rogr should be on the frame by the end of the day, then with the screws and servos tomorrow? Wired up with the controller computer by the end of the week? Machining micRo parts next week? Eh? eh? Not trying to put dead lines out there, just throwing out a plausible timeline? The three axes sitting across the horses was pretty inspiring.

With the upgraded motors and the couplers, unless I missed something, everything should be on hand, right?

Hi mas, I also don't yet have the material for the spindle holders, and some of the screws. (The world has gone mad!) Otherwise we're loaded up with micRo parts. Every time I make a prediction.....well you know. RoGR has to build the micRos though, I tried to calculate the time by to make them all by hand; let's just say we'd be waiting a long time.
mas3773
QUOTE (brainchild @ Oct 7 2008, 02:13 PM) *
Hi mas, I also don't yet have the material for the spindle holders, and some of the screws. (The world has gone mad!) Otherwise we're loaded up with micRo parts. Every time I make a prediction.....well you know. RoGR has to build the micRos though, I tried to calculate the time by to make them all by hand; let's just say we'd be waiting a long time.


HA! Too true. Not to mention I think your wrists would fall off from spinning the dials on the Sieg X2. Rogr does look to be coming along nicely though. Too bad about the screws though.

But I'll hold you to that ETA. Since Rogr will be machining the micRo parts it should be safe to assume that ETA < Long time.

And I suppose by the estimate of how long each Big Robot Nut took, that each micro will take more than a little bit of time to produce. I can't wait to see a picture/video of an army of Rogrs turning out micRos and micRos turning out Rogrs.
brainchild
QUOTE (mas3773 @ Oct 7 2008, 04:40 PM) *
HA! Too true. Not to mention I think your wrists would fall off from spinning the dials on the Sieg X2. Rogr does look to be coming along nicely though. Too bad about the screws though.

But I'll hold you to that ETA. Since Rogr will be machining the micRo parts it should be safe to assume that ETA < Long time.

And I suppose by the estimate of how long each Big Robot Nut took, that each micro will take more than a little bit of time to produce. I can't wait to see a picture/video of an army of Rogrs turning out micRos and micRos turning out Rogrs.

Indeed, we got RoGR's Y and Z assembled and tested today. Almost done. cool.gif
GadgetSmith
QUOTE (brainchild @ Sep 28 2008, 04:32 PM) *
I've been considering an all-metal aluminum billet micRo, is there any interest?


I keep tossing this thought around in my head. Have you worked up something in CAD, or is this a thought at the moment? I guess i'm wondering what changes would be made to the basic micRo?

cheers.
brainchild
QUOTE (GadgetSmith @ Oct 8 2008, 08:05 AM) *
I keep tossing this thought around in my head. Have you worked up something in CAD, or is this a thought at the moment? I guess i'm wondering what changes would be made to the basic micRo?

cheers.

Aside from bronze/plastic sleeve nuts and sleeve bearings, the alum blocks would be the same as the current pieces.

One of my plans for M2 is an 'inversion' of micRo into RoGR's baby. You'il note that since the Y ways and screw enter the gantry blocks symmetrically, it is simple to turn the gantry blocks upside-down and create a hanging gantry ala RoGR. When a small square tube frame is used with the gantry as such, 12" of pass-through open up, as well as headroom for bulky pieces or other automation, like rollers for making those 19" rack panels.

anstrange
Please forgive my mechanical ignorance--I'm trying to work this through in my head--, but how does flipping the micro give you more headroom? However you place it your Z has to reach your sacrifice...seems like the issue is more of travel?
mas3773
QUOTE (anstrange @ Oct 8 2008, 02:10 PM) *
Please forgive my mechanical ignorance--I'm trying to work this through in my head--, but how does flipping the micro give you more headroom? However you place it your Z has to reach your sacrifice...seems like the issue is more of travel?



I am picturing it as being able to have the sacrifice plane adjustable. Rather than fixed at the bottom of the supported ways used for the X.

That way like with the roller example, that may be adding maybe 0.25" to the height of the sacrifice, but instead of saying ok, your 2" of clearance between the sacrifice and the bottom of the Z is now 1.75" you can have it dropped back down to keep your 2".

Or lets say you wanted to mill the face on a 6" tall block. You can set the floor lower so you still have the 2" of working Z, but now have height for a bulky project. With the micRo setting flat as is now designed, the sacrifice plane is limited in that aspect. It's not really a matter of changing any of the workable range, but allowing different access to it.


Ok, edit #3: I think where this could REALLY shine is if the floor could be set for 2" increments, and you were doing 3D printing. Then you could potentially print an object in 2" increments. print, pause, lower, print, etc.

anstrange
Ooh that does make a lot of sense. In that case it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility for some of us 'early adopters' to take this on as a fun side project. From what I can see the only new requirements would be a suitable inverted mounting scheme and a new Y block...all of which can be made with the micro itself! smile.gif.

One of the other benefits to a nonstationary surface that I can see would be for pick/place. It drastically increases the amount of components that can be used by placing the bins further down from your workpiece. *drooling*
llamatrails
QUOTE (brainchild @ Oct 8 2008, 03:22 PM) *
One of my plans for M2 is an 'inversion' of micRo into RoGR's baby. You'il note that since the Y ways and screw enter the gantry blocks symmetrically, it is simple to turn the gantry blocks upside-down and create a hanging gantry ala RoGR. When a small square tube frame is used with the gantry as such, 12" of pass-through open up, as well as headroom for bulky pieces or other automation, like rollers for making those 19" rack panels.


As it is now, are there any technical reasons against hanging the tracks for the X axis upside down ?

My thoughts are to eventually mount the existing X tracks on a square tube frame, so a 4th axis could be slipped up into it.
brainchild
QUOTE (anstrange @ Oct 8 2008, 04:39 PM) *
Ooh that does make a lot of sense. In that case it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility for some of us 'early adopters' to take this on as a fun side project. From what I can see the only new requirements would be a suitable inverted mounting scheme and a new Y block...all of which can be made with the micro itself! smile.gif.

One of the other benefits to a nonstationary surface that I can see would be for pick/place. It drastically increases the amount of components that can be used by placing the bins further down from your workpiece. *drooling*

Actually, the Y doesn't have to change, all that's required is turn the X "bloks" upside down, and mounting the X ways to the bottom of the topmost support tube.

QUOTE (llamatrails @ Oct 9 2008, 02:42 PM) *
As it is now, are there any technical reasons against hanging the tracks for the X axis upside down ?

My thoughts are to eventually mount the existing X tracks on a square tube frame, so a 4th axis could be slipped up into it.

No reasons. See above.
DaveAK
I've been AWOL for a week or two working on another project, (and learning electronics by jumping in feet first), but I see things are getting closer on the micRo. One thing that I haven't quite been able to keep up with is what we're getting for our money. I ordered a complete kit a while ago, and damn you brainchild, but you keep teasing us with goodies and I've lost track. Can we get a run down of what we're getting in our kits, and what optional extras might be available when the first batch is ready to ship out? I'm not even sure if I'm in that first batch or not, so clarification there would be cool.
brainchild
QUOTE (DaveAK @ Oct 10 2008, 05:15 PM) *
I've been AWOL for a week or two working on another project, (and learning electronics by jumping in feet first), but I see things are getting closer on the micRo. One thing that I haven't quite been able to keep up with is what we're getting for our money. I ordered a complete kit a while ago, and damn you brainchild, but you keep teasing us with goodies and I've lost track. Can we get a run down of what we're getting in our kits, and what optional extras might be available when the first batch is ready to ship out? I'm not even sure if I'm in that first batch or not, so clarification there would be cool.

Hi Dave, Welcome back. Everyone is in the first batch.

You are getting:

Engineered and machined bloks.
Precision ways and bearings.
Machined alum flex couplers.
4 motors with upgraded Y and Z.
4 8x micro stepping drivers.
Machined leadscrews; 3/8x12tpi
Spindle mounts.
Hardware.

Baseplate not included.
DaveAK
Awesome!!!! And many thanks.!!!!

Not much else to ask really. biggrin.gif

(Unless you know where I put my EMC2 CD?)
brainchild
QUOTE (DaveAK @ Oct 11 2008, 07:34 PM) *
Awesome!!!! And many thanks.!!!!

Not much else to ask really. biggrin.gif

(Unless you know where I put my EMC2 CD?)

http://www.linuxcnc.org/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-...2-aj07-i386.iso cool.gif

Got these cable chain samples; enough for perhaps 6 micRos. These have 7x7mm ID and are 12x12mm' externally. I can't include these in the basic kit; I'm going broke as it is.

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Albeit a little bigger, here is how it is used:

arizonavideo
Can I sell base plates for cheep?

brainchild
QUOTE (arizonavideo @ Oct 12 2008, 01:02 AM) *
Can I sell base plates for cheep?

Umm, I will be selling them; we were actually just adding it to the store...
arizonavideo
QUOTE (brainchild @ Oct 12 2008, 12:22 PM) *
Umm, I will be selling them; we were actually just adding it to the store...


I found about 4000lb of used 1/2 AL plate for a low price. I thought you were going to have everyone orrder the plate from online metals but if you are stocking them I wont bother.

There is not too much room for profit anyhow on bare stock.

How are you going to cut them to size?
brainchild
QUOTE (arizonavideo @ Oct 13 2008, 04:47 AM) *
I found about 4000lb of used 1/2 AL plate for a low price. I thought you were going to have everyone orrder the plate from online metals but if you are stocking them I wont bother.

There is not too much room for profit anyhow on bare stock.

How are you going to cut them to size?

The plates are delivered to size; I'll let the boys with the big shears handle that bit of work. When we get them they go onto RoGR for face milling, drilling and etching.

Off to the steel shop for RoGR table parts ~later!
brainchild
QUOTE (brainchild @ Oct 11 2008, 05:44 PM) *
Hi Dave, Welcome back. Everyone is in the first batch.

You are getting:

Engineered and machined bloks.
Precision ways and bearings.
Machined alum flex couplers.
4 motors with upgraded Y and Z.
4 8x micro stepping drivers.
Machined leadscrews; 3/8x12tpi
Spindle mounts.
Hardware.

Baseplate not included.

Yikes, left off "SM Power Supply", a bigger item. I may have left off other things... tongue.gif
Khun Jean
How difficult would it be to double the y/z parts using the same X ways. Instead of a complicated tool changer you would have a machine with two tools working on your part. With 3d printing you could have one laying a new layer of material and the other depositing the building material.
Or any other task that will need two tools.

In real cnc work does that happen often, or is it that most of the times the tools you use are very universal and can make the part in one go.

llamatrails
QUOTE (Khun Jean @ Oct 14 2008, 04:27 AM) *
How difficult would it be to double the y/z parts using the same X ways. Instead of a complicated tool changer you would have a machine with two tools working on your part. With 3d printing you could have one laying a new layer of material and the other depositing the building material.
Or any other task that will need two tools.

In real cnc work does that happen often, or is it that most of the times the tools you use are very universal and can make the part in one go.


Good points, and I have also given it some thought.

As the Z design stands, there is nothing really stopping us from making a double sided tool holder. Think of maybe an inverted T as in :
___|__

The upright attaches as normal, while the horizontal base extends both forward and under/back of the Z face.
Place a tool on each side, with the benefit of the weight now balanced on both sides.
brainchild
I'm all for multiple tools. This is the idea of modularity, or what I like to call the "One Machine" design principle that I've devoted myself to...

I'd like to get the motion elements more interchangeable, configurable. I'd love to see a place for micRo on RoGR. It is a living design, by my dreams and toil at least. cool.gif
Elder
So with RoGR coming together (looks impressive) I take it we're not all that far off seeing videos of its first steps into machining? Will we be witnessing the big fella machining micRo parts within a week or 2 or am I getting ahead of myself?
brainchild
QUOTE (Elder @ Oct 20 2008, 11:39 PM) *
So with RoGR coming together (looks impressive) I take it we're not all that far off seeing videos of its first steps into machining? Will we be witnessing the big fella machining micRo parts within a week or 2 or am I getting ahead of myself?

We'd be seeing them now if it weren't for a series of annoying setbacks. I have a new computer together that is tested and functioning. I need some alum for the router mount; another couple days' shipping.
Greg M.
Okay, I am pretty well sold on the idea of a micRo, however since you *seem* interested in the idea of customizations....

The working area is a skosh small for my liking. Mainly the X and Y travel. I noticed earlier someone mentioned a longer X-axis. Has a longer Y axis been explored using the same gantry rises? My ideal is something like 20"x30". I imagine doubling the travel the Z module would required the gantry to be beefed up. Possibly even a candidate for the aforementioned aluminum micRo.

Of course I would expect increased price and probably time of delivery. Would this even be something you would be interested in constructing?

Also, like some others I'd be interested in a spindle/mount/etc, and depending on if it is possible, a base.


What do you think?
Cheeso
Hello everyone.

I’m a first time poster here after ordering a micRo yesterday. It seems to me it offers the best starting point to get ones feet wet in the world of CNC. Being a flightsim fanatic, I intend to use it on a future cockpit build. Obviously it will be put to other use as well. smile.gif

Here's another idea for a future Lumenlab roBLOKS project: an affordable 3-DOF motion platform.... RoGR could get his/her bit right into that.

I've got a question for Brainchild.. Will you guys be able to test all the electronics and motors before shipping things off to us? With international postal rates (Netherlands) being this high, I'd like to avoid having to send things back and forth across the pond.

Regards,
Gerhard
brainchild
QUOTE (Greg M. @ Oct 24 2008, 01:34 AM) *
Okay, I am pretty well sold on the idea of a micRo, however since you *seem* interested in the idea of customizations....

The working area is a skosh small for my liking. Mainly the X and Y travel. I noticed earlier someone mentioned a longer X-axis. Has a longer Y axis been explored using the same gantry rises? My ideal is something like 20"x30". I imagine doubling the travel the Z module would required the gantry to be beefed up. Possibly even a candidate for the aforementioned aluminum micRo.

Of course I would expect increased price and probably time of delivery. Would this even be something you would be interested in constructing?

Also, like some others I'd be interested in a spindle/mount/etc, and depending on if it is possible, a base.


What do you think?

I'd love to have "a la carte" materials available at your specified length. Please, PM me with your required dimensions, and I can make an attempt.

QUOTE (Cheeso @ Oct 24 2008, 02:10 AM) *
Hello everyone.

I’m a first time poster here after ordering a micRo yesterday. It seems to me it offers the best starting point to get ones feet wet in the world of CNC. Being a flightsim fanatic, I intend to use it on a future cockpit build. Obviously it will be put to other use as well. smile.gif

Here's another idea for a future Lumenlab roBLOKS project: an affordable 3-DOF motion platform.... RoGR could get his/her bit right into that.

I've got a question for Brainchild.. Will you guys be able to test all the electronics and motors before shipping things off to us? With international postal rates (Netherlands) being this high, I'd like to avoid having to send things back and forth across the pond.

Regards,
Gerhard

Hi Gerhard, Thanks for your purchase, and for writing. If your product doesn't work, I will happily replace it!
Greg M.
QUOTE (brainchild @ Oct 24 2008, 05:13 AM) *
I'd love to have "a la carte" materials available at your specified length. Please, PM me with your required dimensions, and I can make an attempt.


PM sent. Look forward to doing business with you.
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