I think I can get ahold of a few nl10276bc12-02 panels, which means 6.3" lcds running 1024x768 res, for about $100 apiece. They are in touchscreen modules pulled from slot machines, which means that they were pretty well untouched while in use. They were protected by the glass touchscreen overlay. The module has a 12v DC power supply, the 3M Microtouch panel for whatever use you'd like, and the controller board taking VGA in. Anyone interested? I can take photos of the unit I'm playing with now.

If you'd like to contact me, send an email to:

d h ]at[ sms-okc dot com


UPDATE : Okay, I was misinformed by my supplier (A mistake by their tech.) The resolution on these panels IS 1024x768. Still, very crisp looking. Thanks, Quasi_Mojo!

http://www.eu.necel.com/products/display/c...276BC12-02.html
http://www.nec-lcd.com/en/products/nl10276bc12-02.html

Any FFC issues or anything else we need to know about?

Quasi_Mojo:

I just found that on their site as well, but these panels are running at 1280x1024. Even displays that in the controller's OSD. I'll investigate more this evening to find out whats up.

-D.H.

How many can you get?

I might be interested in buying the whole batch.

I want one for sure, even if I have to "outbid" jonjandran,

How soon will you get them?

oops what happened to jimbo's post, did I accidentally delete it and ban his PM priveleges for a few days?

I'm interested.

Do you have any pictures of the back of the panel and the controller board that you could post?

Hi, I may be interested but would you send to Australia?

I think there might be about 50 available. Possibly more. I'll have to get ahold of some and test them. About how many would you be interested in? I'll be posting some pics momentarily.



If you're paying shipping and a shipper goes there, I'll ship there.



Okay, I uploaded some pics I just took last night.

http://sms-okc.com/files/nl10276bc12-02/



I have one on my knee, and the rest are sitting in a warehouse across town.

Is the touchscreen fully operational? I'll definitely take one, or probably two, if the price is right. Have you firmed up a price yet?

I have a 17" CRT with a similar looking 3M Microtouch controller. Mine plugs into a serial port, are the ones you have serial too?

$100 even



Yep, these are probably the same serial unit. If I may ask, what are you planning on making?

I built a computer juke box to hold all my CDs and wrote a program to display the album covers and track info, etc. I used the touch screen to do all the selections, but I ran out of space for the 17" CRT and so I don't use it any more. I really need to get it hooked up again, and this small screen would be perfect. The second one I'm not sure about yet. I'm thinking maybe mounted into the projector to run a HTPC with all my movies ripped to the hard drive, or hooked up to my laptop for playing poker on. I can't quite justify buying 3 though, almost, but not quite.

The more I think about it the more uses I can come up with. I should get back to work and put this stuff out of my mind.

I'll take two though if shipping isn't going to break the bank. I'll PM you my details.

Hi, I would be interested in 3 at a cost of $100 each.

Absolutely, I would be paying for the shipping, I wouldn't expect that in the price. I have used USPS Priority Mail International a number of times to get items from the USA to here. A very good service.

Can you advise how heavy one of these is please?

And thanks for offering these to us at LL.

interested!

So it has VGA input only right? nice panel. Id be interested if I can scrape some money together.

in for one

EDIT: nix that, I see that they are not suitable for what I had in mind.

I am interested as well, perhaps for 2.

Thanks.

These are solid little units. Industrial grade.

I bought one on ebay a little while back (perhaps the same seller? he also said they were from casino pulls) and put it inside an antique philco to more easily access a digital music server.

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p.s. based on a thread on DIY audio, and some discussion about them here, I believe these are NOT suitable for PJ building because they use a non-standard, very short ffc.

Why aren't they, sensi?

see my edit above. I'll try to find the thread. (I think the one here got deleted because it was in the trading post).

Can't find the stripping thread (I may be misremembering what other forum it was on), but here's a brief thread addressing this panel that links to the picture below.

Here's another thread over at DIY Audio: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=57593

Here's the search over there for NL10276BC12.

So, nobody has figured out how to extend this ffc cable? Thats a rather unfortunately small hurdle to block this really sweet LCD from being usable as a projector.

Not to my knowledge, no. But I've been out of the game a little while, so take that with a grain of salt...

That's a sweet looking setup! It's what I intend to use one for as well, but I doubt mine will look that good! The other one I'm toying with the idea of mounting in the back of my projector as a control panel, although I have several other ideas as well.

Is that left ffc for backlight, or would it also have to be extended? If you can, take a picture of the connection close-up. Maybe the circuit board or the connector will have a number on it that we can look up.

EDIT: this is what the ffc looks like:

Whats the viewing angle and brightness on these things sensi. And does the touchscreen have a lot of reflection or is it a matte finish ?

Viewing angles :

Up: 45° , down: 60° ,
right: 60° , left: 60°

The touchscreen has a pretty much matte finish to it. At least as matte as you can make a glass panel. Any reflections seen in it are rather diffused, so they aren't distracting.

Well I was kind of looking more for an opinion. Like "It looks great from the sides. You can see it real well if you are to the left and right . And it's really bright "
Or "It stinks"

But thanks for the matte finish review. Some touchscreens are just plexiglass and have a LOT of glare.

Ah, I gotcha. Left and right are great, looking at it from below is good, and the colors start to wash out a bit once you're at too high of an angle. The brightness really is pretty good, I'd say.

Cable pitch is .3mm and it totals 75pins (for the bigger cable)

I don't know about the smaller cable, maybe it is unneeded for us (backlight).

The bottom of this pdf has digikey's .3mm connectors. But they don't sell .3mm ffc cable, and none of these connectors have 75 pin spots.
http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T081/0086.pdf

Very good on both accounts, I'd say. Reflections have never been an issue in my application, but then again I'm not trying to use it outdoors in the sun (as might happen in a carputer install).

The touch interface is significantly more accurate and receptive than the touchscreen overlays I have used elsewhere.

Mine has been rock solid. No complaints at all.

Hi, I don't know much about ffc cables but I found this and it may be useful:

http://www.hirose-connectors.com/catalog/pdf/10.pdf

See page 153, it says up to 96 pin spots and may be suitable. Please advise someone who knows about these things.

That's just the connector and not the cable.

The cable is the next to impossible item to find.

I would really be interested in one for my JukBox project(building it for my mother in law)

How much would shipping to Kitchener, On be?

does this have a controller?, does it accept straight VGA?

Hi, yes I realise that this is only the connector, I was responding to jimbo12d where he said that the connectors he found were not 75 wide.

Surely if there are connectors there is cable that fit the connectors. I wonder if crazychen can find any?

Yea there are 90 pin connectors also. I never could find the .3mm fpc cables though.

The dimensions are :

9.5" x 6.5" x 2.5"

I'm not sure about the weight. I'll check that out tomorrow. I'd guess 4 lbs.

I'll try to find out shipping costs tomorrow. I prefer USPS, but anyone wanting FedEx or UPS.. let me know.

BTW, you can contact my via IM at the following..

AIM: SMSDHubbard
YIM: SMSDHubbard
MSN; DHubbard at smsdesign.net

I have sent a PM to Chen to see what he can find out for us using his connections (no pun intended)

Let me know how that goes. If it can be extended, I'll try to sell these here on the board and to other DIY Projector people. If not, I guess there's always carputer and other project builders.

I have heard back from crazychen and he believes he can find an appropriate FFC or have them made but only if there is sufficient quantity to warrant it. Obviously they will not do this for a handful but for a reasonable quantity it can be done. I have directed chen to this posting and to you DH405 as he needs details of requirements to proceed.

I have 45 of the panels at this point. I think that 40 of them would be doable to turn into projection panels. Did he give any idea how many of these cables I would need to order?

All he said was that it was not possible to do 2 or 3. When I mentioned there could be up to 50 he said that was definitely feasible, so I would say 40 would be more than okay. Let him have time to do a bit of research and get back.

When you say 40 of the 45 are 'doable as pj panels', what is wrong with the others?

Light scratches on fronts of the screens.

I would need to know that I can sell all of these panels to projector builders before I give a solid number on how many FFC extensions I'd need. I can still move them as carputers and project touch screens, so I don't want to lock myself into one particular market.

Look I wouldn't worry, I am sure Chen will come back with some options without locking you in. I am also sure they will be reasonably priced and will not involve all of the units. He was just saying that there would be no interest if it was simply 2 or 3 units, I am sure that if say 20 plus were involved then it would be doable. Just be patient until we have an answer.

I'm not meaning to seem impatient or pressure anyone, I'm just trying to be completely up front with my intentions. I don't want to lead anyone on to any false conclusions. I appreciate your efforts in contacting Chen and getting this info for us.

Would you mind if I used that image as an example project when selling these panels?

Not at all, but let me get you a better one. That pic kinda makes the LCD look washed out. I'll post another pic soon.