Hey Guys, I know the 10.6 kit price is getting high, the LCD's are getting very hard to find.

The 12.1 kit will be the replacement. 12.1 Toshiba WXGA 600:1 contrast

MST controller, HDMI, HDCP, VGA, YPrPb, S-Video, DVD, and TV

$265 shipped, very good price, will post pics soon.

Here is one pic,


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Thats an awesome price!!

whats the native resolution on the 12.1?

Native Rez is 1280*768

This sounds like a very good deal I would love one. What is your supply like and how much does it cost to ship to the UK?

International shipping is $45 for fedex express. Includes all VAT and customs fees

Could you provide a picture comparing the 10.6 to this 12.1?
Perhaps with the 10.6 in front of and slightly offset from the 12.1?

Johnzo how much crap has to come off of this one like ag/polars you know stuff like that?

The screen only has polar on front and back. No Anti Glare!

Pretty much, you will not have to peel any layers off!!

I going to say this now, some of the lcds have small clouds on the screen, nothing to do with the LCD, there is something wrong with the light slab. If you make a project out of it, the LCD is perfect. I will guarantee that the lcd and polars are ok.

I can tell that this is going to be a really popular screen! 265$ shipped? This looks like a no brainer to me. Somone buy one and test it out!

Wow that would be perfect! I might hit you up for one if my hannspree don't turn out! perfect panel imo

By light slab do you mean backlight? So if you are using the lcd for a projector by shining light through it there is no problem correct?

Thats correct. This is most likely from a bad light defuser in the backlight, but Johnzo should be able to give you the correct answere.

What are the dimensions of the panel for fresnel sizes?

yeah was just thinking the same thing

need some dimensions

are these going to go up on the manhattan site aswell?

they sound like a great buy

Wonder what it'll be like trying to strip the AG off these monitors, and also whether the rear of the pannel has reflective material on it.

They look good. Think if I start building a seconf projector for the beach house, it'd be around something like this.

Nevermind.

I can afford this. Do we PM our orders or wait until they are available via your website?

PM me, I will give you payment deatails.

Sent a PM. I hope you got it as the message does not appear in my sent items...

The image in this post is incorrect. I mistakenly used the measurements from the wrong 12.1 panel.
Please see Post# 128 for the correct measurements for this panel.
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=272925

In case anybody (like me) was wondering how this compares size-wise with the 10.6 panel, please refer to the picture below:



The measurements were taken straight from the spec PDFs. The white portion is the plastic frame/bezel that the panel comes in. The 10.6 is the smaller one, naturally.
I, personally, was hoping that the next hi-res panel would have been smaller then the 10.6, but I'm sure we'll have one in time.

has a good response time .

this should be cool

are you able to get them in bulk like you did the 10.6?
it would be cool to see a bunch of plogs with it.

will be buying mine soon

so excited and i havnt even paid yet

this is gonna be awesome

The 15.4" is rated high, but it seems it is much faster then it is rated, more like 8ms. I may because the panel gets pretty warm. The more warm the panel gets, the faster the response time gets. This only works to an extent, usualy before you get that black spot.

Well mine arrived today and it looks really sweet. Never seen a polar that shiny before

Just a couple of questions though, what kind of adapter does this take? I take it its a 12v DC but how many amps will it need to function? Also what polarity?

Cheers

1-2 amp will be fine, needs to be regulated. Center is +, outside is -.

i always thought a panel looses response time when it heats up ?

my 10.6 will ghost and move slow when it gets to hot

for those of us who don't register sizes in mm the panel with frame will be approx 11.15" x 7.3"

this could be a perfect drop in for my 15" projector! woo ha! The 15" panel was about 12" x 12" so this should solve the corner focus/dim corner issues I was having. I can also builder a slimmer box (top to bottom at least)....very tempting!

so do we know if there are any issues with certain resolutions over certain cables? Does the controller automatically stretch the image?

I will probably pick up a few myself, this will drop right in to my F-1075 model.

I am having problems with mine via vga and component. The image is stretched vertically on all all reses 1280x720 and 1280x768. For example i cant see the windows start button because it has stretched out of view :/ Ill get some pics tomorrow or the day after to show you guys. Can anyone help me?

That's probably the MST controller. The 10.6 panels had the same issue.
I believe it will only do 1:1 pixel mapping when connected to a computer through VGA and the computer's video resolution is set to 1280 x 768.

It doesnt work at all. I tried 2 PCs, 1 macbook and an 360 all through VGA set at the panels native res at various refresh rates and I get verticle stretching. Any suggestions?

looking at the specs...

Surface Treatment.....Anti-glare and hard-coating 3H

are you sure it doesn't have anti-glare ?

so will everything get stretched to the native resolution of the panel over component/composite/hdmi/coax?

kristoph,

last night I retested all of the 12.1 kit in stock, I'm not getting anything cut off or anything. The controller will strech 720p to"full" to take up all the area of the lcd, which is typical of the MST controller.

The problem you are having is not the controller, it's the computer, this happened with the realtec controllers, you need to have the computer to ignore the what the controller is telling the computer what it's native resolution is. I have to dig up a thread some where to find the procedure.

The 12.1 lcd has no surface treatments or antiglare.

johnzo are you selling just the screen without the controller yet?

He has said that this LCD will not work with the 10.6 MST controller, if that's what you're thinking.

Thanks johnzo that kinda pointed me in the right direction. I have been messing around with powerstip fine tuning custom refresh rates for the last two hours and have got 720p working.

Just incase I scared anyone..... I GOT MY PANEL WORKING FINE AND DANDY !!!!!!

yessssss!!!!!

So what is the answer if we want to use the xbox360 as an input source?

Well my 360 via component and vga gets verticle stretching. Even with the dcc pin on the vga cable hacked off (disables the communication from the controller to the the video source) I still get stretching I have this problem with my Apple Macbook, my other apple computer and my custom made pc with an ATI card.I have 720p (only 720p) working with some obscure refreshrate via powerstrip on the custom pc and it looks really good. Johnzo says the controllers are fine and is probably to do with my computer however since it is like this with all of three of my computers and a xbox 360 I beleive I have a dud. However since i got 720p working I am content. Not tested HDMI yet.

The quality of the panel is really nice, I have some pics I will post later today if I get the chance.

Can you take a picture of this streching? Do you mean the picture is getting streched 48 lines to fill the screen?

It stretches out of view below are the examples.

Macbook

Pic 1
1280 x 768 @ 60mhz
doesnt streatch horiontally and the image is streatched vertically (the bottom of the dock bar is out of view)


Pic 2
1280 x768 @ 75mhz
Fills the screen horizontally however again the image is vertically stretched out of view


Pic 3
This is how it should look with the dock in clear view. My 800x640 hami does this fine.


Xbox 360

Pic 1
1280 x 786
Image doesnt fill the screen horizontally and vertically streatched out of view.


Pic 2
1280 x 720
Fills the screen but again streatched out of view.

Pic 3
THX optimizer shows the stretching well. This is suppose to be a perfect circle however vertical streatching distorts it to an egg like shape.


PC With common ATI card

Pic 1
1280x768 @ 60mhz


Fills the screen perfectly horizontally but stretched vertically moving the start bar out of view. THX image optimizers shows distorted circle. At 75mhz the image is the same.
Pic2
1280x720p @ some weird refresh rate with powerstrip image looks fine however any higher or lower distorts the image.

I'm very interested in this panel, but those pictures don't look too promising if the image will be stretched or not fill the entire screen.

Does anyone else have experience with this panel? The size and resolution are just what I'm looking for - just want to be sure that the controller and the source will play nice. I'm looking to use xbox 360, PC, and a Wii.

I guess I'll wait until everything gets figured out before I pull the trigger on this one.

If the original image is not the same aspect ratio as the lcd then there is no other choice. It either has to stretch the image of use back bars. This goes for all lcds.

Yes but with my pictures he was refering to the images were the same aspect ratio and resolution.

That's what worries me. I want to be able to hook up my xbox 360 and have it fill the screen without spilling over or having black bars on the side. And it looks like you're running the THX optimizer through the xbox 360 - and it's showing ovular circles.

Plus look at the macbook screenshots - they're terribly distorted and shifted.

Hey there, few questions too

I also get the streching via VGA input.
Component at 480p gives me "jaggies" I have a better picture out of composite cables at 480i
component at 720p is excellent as is 1080i
HDMI untested.
But for the life of me, I can't get it to show a decent picture out of a PC.

How did you manage it in powerstrip?

So far, the jaggies are horrible........
and the streching?

Maybe I also got a dud??
what are your settings in powerstrip?
Thanks!

EDIT :

720p from component is stretched vertically, but fills the screen.
ho hum...
I have the exact same results as in the pictures by kristoph