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jammnijohn

Are there any speakers that are the size of the bose cube's that sound better and are cheaper.
I am looking to get a complete system and start from scratch, and I want to have the smallest speakers possible for a decent price.

thanks
Quasi_Mojo
I've been considering this, as well.

I was wondering if anybody has used something similar to the following:

Audioengine 5 Speaker System
http://audioengineusa.com/store/product_in...cdcccc373dc1ab1



Maximum PC (a no-BS publication) gives it a 9 out of 10:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/audioengi..._speaker_system

Lowest Price on Pricegrabber.com:
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getoffe...peaker%20System
sensibull
What do the Bose cubes run?

Simple physics render it nearly impossible for such small speakers to recreate the entire spectrum accurately. Even assuming you'll be integrating a subwoofer (pretty much a requisite for good movie sound), very small drivers have trouble reaching 100hz with any kind of authority.

If you're willing to go up a wee bit in size, have a look at the Ascend Acoutics HTM-200s. They've just been upgraded with custom woofers and tweeters (website should reflect this soon) and would absolutely destroy anything you'd get from a cube speaker.
Quasi_Mojo
Well... it looks like I've mistakenly thought that that product listed as "Audioengine 5 Speaker System" was a 5 speaker system.

Silly me!

It's only 2 speakers.
arkcom
The smallest thing that can actually be considered HI-FI would be the B3S. Its a 3" driver and there is a project using it Zaphs page. I've built them and they sound good.
arizonavideo
QUOTE (arkcom @ Dec 5 2007, 01:54 PM) *
The smallest thing that can actually be considered HI-FI would be the B3S. Its a 3" driver and there is a project using it Zaphs page. I've built them and they sound good.



The Hi-Vi looks like a special speaker. I have seen them for a little bit. The have a second resonance at 8K which is about right for the size of the driver so it would be interesting hear how they sound.

Quasi_Mojo
Wow... HiVi B3S

$10.33 EA (4 + )
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=297-427

Looks like I might go the DIY route for speakers, too.
Quasi_Mojo
What about these:

Logitech Z-5500 Digital
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers...24&cl=us,en


Least expensive US pricing:
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/speakers...Logitech+Z-5500

Least expensive Canadian pricing:
http://www.shopbot.ca/p-10615.html
jammnijohn
QUOTE (Quasi_Mojo @ Dec 5 2007, 02:39 PM) *
Wow... HiVi B3S

$10.33 EA (4 + )
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cf...tnumber=297-427

Looks like I might go the DIY route for speakers, too.




What else would I need to complete a 5.1? 5 of these and a subwoofer?

Should I go higher than 5.1 for a bedroom system for games , movies and sports on a diy projector?

I really don't want to have to many speakers.

Sorry I am a complete noob smile.gif
sdubb
QUOTE (Quasi_Mojo @ Dec 5 2007, 07:25 PM) *
What about these:

Logitech Z-5500 Digital
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers...24&cl=us,en


Least expensive US pricing:
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/speakers...Logitech+Z-5500

Least expensive Canadian pricing:
http://www.shopbot.ca/p-10615.html

To funny I have these speakers setup in my living room everybody comments on them probably cuz the sub is freaking huge they sound good but what I like is they have optical and coax inputs and mini headphone input jack so i run my hdtv with optical and my dvd player with coax and my radio with the headphone jack i got the rig for like 200 i really like oh yeah it has a remote too smile.gif
pcpro_guy
In the den everything is Pioneer except the sub is a powered 10 inch Yamaha... Now as for the bedroom projector I am using Boston Acoustic computer speakers that I found at the goodwill store.. They sound pretty good.. My computer has a 5.1 sound card in it but I just cant figure out how I would hook all this up.. I really need to buy an amp for the thing but on the computers sound card it shows where to hook the sub and where to hook the front ,center , and rear but I would have to have amplified speakers for all of this.. I thought about just buying a really nice set of logitech 5.1 speakers from walmart and then just live with it.. or maybe one of those all in one surround sound systems from walmart.. I just dont know.. I got to finish buying Christmas now though... my Daughter wants a Nintendo DS , My wife wants Diamonds, and my dad wants a stereo... And god only knows what I am going to get my sister and my in-laws..
Quasi_Mojo
QUOTE (jammnijohn @ Dec 5 2007, 09:35 PM) *
What else would I need to complete a 5.1? 5 of these and a subwoofer?

Should I go higher than 5.1 for a bedroom system for games , movies and sports on a diy projector?

I really don't want to have to many speakers.

Sorry I am a complete noob smile.gif

Yeah... five of those and a sub will give you 5.1.

The build is a bit involved, but you should be able to find what you need on Zaph's Audio page linked above:
http://www.zaphaudio.com/audio-speaker18.html
Quasi_Mojo
Here's a pretty good (and typical) review of the Logitech Z-5500 Digital Speakers:

http://www.boxgods.com/dept/hardware/index...=1#Introduction

I may get this set when I finish my PJ.
jammnijohn
QUOTE (Quasi_Mojo @ Dec 7 2007, 01:32 PM) *
Here's a pretty good (and typical) review of the Logitech Z-5500 Digital Speakers:

http://www.boxgods.com/dept/hardware/index...=1#Introduction

I may get this set when I finish my PJ.



Are there any others that compare to the Logitech Z-5500 Digital Speakers in price and performance.

I really would like the smallest possible that is not to expensive.


jammnijohn
So whats the best "bang for your buck" setup?

I will sacrifice the small form for something that sounds really good for a decent price.
Quasi_Mojo
I think I've pretty much decided on the Logitech Z-5500.
BestBuy will price match online pricing (as long as it's an authorized seller - not something like eBay) minus 10% of the difference.

That means I can currently get them for around $267.99 CDN (current Retail price at BestBuy.ca is $499.99).
I'm going to hold out for the day after Christmas (Boxing Day) sales, though, to see if the price drops even more.
habib.jonez
You should consider the Mirage nanosat speakers http://www.miragespeakers.com
They are about $100. http://www.customsoundco.com/Product_Detai...3&Special=1
Quasi_Mojo
QUOTE (habib.jonez @ Dec 24 2007, 02:28 AM) *
You should consider the Mirage nanosat speakers http://www.miragespeakers.com
They are about $100. http://www.customsoundco.com/Product_Detai...3&Special=1

That looks like it's $109 for ONE speaker!

habib.jonez
QUOTE (Quasi_Mojo @ Dec 24 2007, 11:18 AM) *
That looks like it's $109 for ONE speaker!


Thats not very much when your talking high end home theatre. Ubid.com used to have em for $50 a pair. Could probably get some on ebay for cheap.
jammnijohn
Can anyone recommend some cheap but nice in wall speakers?

Do you lose sound quality with these types of speakers?

thanks

samuraijack
QUOTE (jammnijohn @ Jan 2 2008, 12:25 AM) *
Can anyone recommend some cheap but nice in wall speakers?

Do you lose sound quality with these types of speakers?

thanks


In wall speakers really should be bought with a careful ear. But if you are willing to risk it, the Dayton line of inwall speakers from www.partsexpress.com is a pretty sweet deal. They are cheap, but they dont sound like a supermarket speaker when you play them..wink.gif
jammnijohn
Since the logitech's are pc speakers, Is there a special way to hook up them up to the home receiver?
Quasi_Mojo
I'm not certain but perhaps you can find out from the User Guide:

Setup / Installation Guide:
http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bi...711&p_olh=0

Connection Guide:
http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bi...083&p_olh=0
SupraGuy
Basically, you don't.

The PC speakers are meant to take source level material, so you would connect it to your source. You can connect a stereo set directly to the audio output from your DVD player, for example.

For surround sound, you need a pre-amp which will decode the surround sound to multiple channels. The PC speakers have their own amplifier, but no signal decoder, so they don't (usually) deal with a digital signal at all, only analogue.

So, if you have a receiver, you don't connect the speakers to it, though if you absolutely must, you can use the headphone port.
SuntoryTimes
The best bang for you buck in the price range you're in would be the already mentioned z-5500, though I hooked it up to my dvd via optical and it's running surround sound without any preamp or the like. Hmmm, are you sure (things go flying around my head in action scenes etc, and they match what is on screen so i'm not quite sure how it could not be working). blink.gif Though I know you're quite good in these areas, do you ahve any idea how this could be???
sensibull
QUOTE (SuntoryTimes @ Mar 5 2008, 06:17 AM) *
Hmmm, are you sure (things go flying around my head in action scenes etc, and they match what is on screen so i'm not quite sure how it could not be working). blink.gif


Those particular Logitech speakers do have a digital decoder in them. I believe all real 5.1 setups do nowadays. I think Supra was talking about your average PC speaker with a mini-jack line in and that's it.
SupraGuy
Heh. Sorry.

Yeah, if it has a digital decoder, that's a different animal.

I have the older generation of the Logitech 5.1s that are analogue only.
SuntoryTimes
Okey days then, i'm not entirely insane then laugh.gif I think the speaker wire I used was a bit of overkill (12 gauge) but it sounds a lot better (and I mean a lot better), then when I was using the original wires it came with.
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