[At the risk of dropping 100 notches in the handyman heirarchy...]

OK, so I recently replaced the propane tank on my gas grill and all of sudden, after years of dutiful service, I cannot get it light for the life of me. I'm doing everything in the right order (tank valve open, grill knob to light, ignition button -- nothing, waited a while and tried same with manual lighting -- nothing).

Sounds like something is rattling in the bottom of the propane tank. Should I be hearing that?

Is there gas coming out? I once had a compliant valve unit that wouldn't work quite right and reseating the thing seemed to help. The regulator could be bad. When you screw it in can you hear the lines downstream of the regulator charging? I supposed it's possible the tank valve could be bad. The tank IS full right? You can feel the LP inside when you slosh it around.

Slight gas smell, but not as much as normal.



No. But I don't think I've ever heard that.



What's the LP? Tank is definitely full. Like I said, I do hear something rattling when I shake it, but I seem to recall this always being the case.

Q&A #2 and #3 here:

http://www.weber.com/WeberCom/Services/FAQ...mp;CountryIV=01

Also you can try swish it upside down and upright again ,did you get a purge when refilled ,you should do that every few years on lp tanks,could also be little critters in there , get a long wire brush to go into the tubes ,or some water got into the tubes.. good luck.

Thanks. Been there done that, but will try again with extra care.

Just got off the phone with Weber. Spoke to one of the nicest, most knowledgeable support guy I've ever experienced. This guy clearly knew his stuff. After walking me through the safety valve reset procedure, and it still not lighting, the most likely scenario is a bad valve on the tank. Apparently those exchange programs results in a roughly 1/50 defective ratio.

Anyway... hopefully the next tank will do the trick.

After your nail comment the other day, I figured how could he NOT be inviting me to say something horrible by subtitling a thread "Don't let my meat go bad!"

Since it sounds like it's the tank than all is well. Had a similar problem last year. Over the winter a family of spiders took up residence in one of the lines of the grill itself. Took a little while to figure that out.

Like a moth to the flame, m'lady.



Funny you should mention that, as my friendly neighborhood Weber technician suggested that possibility as well. Did you end up disassembling and evicting the squatters with a wire hanger, as I was advised?

I neglected to mention I have plenty of gas if you ever run out. PHEW!!!

I had mice chew my ignitor wire bare last winter. I guess living in my hot tub surround kept 'em hungry even during the cold weather.

Yup a wire and then a very long pipe cleaner. Didn't want bug guts and webs to some how defy the odds of not getting burnt up and land on any of my precious cuts.

Just curious. Anyone else out there who could make an entire meal out of the remains of previous meals on your grills? Or do you all clean them well after every use?

Dear god, no. On three separate occasions, the burnt remains have been substantial enough to draw a black bear onto my deck and off into the woods with the drip pan. And this is in CT.

You, sir, just moved up two notches in my book. I keep a coffee can wired under the drip hole of mine. I've filled quite a few. I wonder if we can tap that gunk for some kind of biofuel source?

No I keep mine pretty clean, fastidiously girly about grilling. The drip pan is the size of a tuna can and doesn't frequently need to be emptied. But that's what you get for cooking greasy stuff, fellas. Burgers might occassionaly make it on there -- only the most low fat in the county. Never, ever hotdogs. I'm a grilling Nazi though, people offer to help when I'm grilling for 40 and they just get this look like, "You can't handle this!"

sounds like the duchess got it right. I had the same problem except the flame was yellow instead of blue. I did the tank thing, the regulator, etc. turns out a spider made a nest in the tube between the burner and the switch that controls the flow of gas to the burner. I took apart the grill, cleaned out the tubes, grease trap, etc and we are cooking with gas.
I keep up the cleaning on my grill as I use it almost every night, I love to grill. working in the shop here we grill up lunch here too. I like my grill clean, with all the racoons here if I let it go they will be in to it. hard enough to keep them out of the garbage.

I love you...

You grill Nazis simply must try venison hot dogs.

And a lightly coated in olive oil venison tenderloin still steaming after removal from the body cavity fresh off the grill . . . I wager there's nothing that compares. (The tongue is hanging out for obvious reasons regarding this particular usage.)

Salmon marinated in orange juice, honey, and ginger. A close second.

Lowest fat burgers are too low IMHO. Lean but not too lean.

Now I'm hungry. Dang!!!

I've never killed a deer. We don't really hunt, so my exposure to venison has been minimal. Even though it's readily available around, just have to get it yourself.


Good alternative is bison, but sometimes it runs a little pricey. But I live where steak comes from so you guys in Pennsylvania might have the meat dry out some before it gets to you.

I'll also do turkey burgers (I'm a chick and the Geneva Convention says you can't mock me for this) when I feel like VERY lean protein.

I love you too Samurai Jack!

Oh and my favorite marinade is my own concoction -- fresh garlic, adobo, lemon and lime. You get sweet, sour and savory all balanced in some very juicy poultry.

Its grillin season!
Try this one...
Take some fresh asparagus stalks gently coat in olive oil, small amount of garlic salt, some pepper and some lemon juice...Now grill em over medium heat, turning, rolling frequently...
( Its a very pleasant surprise!)

Personally, I have always loved steak with the most basic flavorings, salt and fresh ground pepper...
Dont want anything to get in the way of my "lust for the flesh"....

My Motto for Grilling:
"Anytime is good for Meat and Fire!"

Record temperature for grilling?
-28F. Dead season in February, Cabin fever strikes and SJ declares its time to BBQ! Steak, Salad and Frnch Fries must be offered!

So we had a picnic in the living room...

PS. I actually put on pants to go outside for that one...Normally I spend all winter in shorts...
...and summer
...and spring
...most of fall...

Yum, turkey burgers. And bison burgers. Soooooo gooooood. Not much sun up there, eh?

It's funny, growing up a great gift from my grandpa to our family was a side of beef. Yeah, a whole side.

If I ever put anything other than salt on a steak, it's because it's involved in another recipe or it's had a rough time in the freezer. (Even a family as big as mine can't get through a side of beef in a week.)

Fun story about steak. My sister set me up on a blind date a little while ago -- my singleness is legendary -- and after playin' in an arcade we went to dinner. On the way there he's letting casually drop things like his house, that he has two cars other than the pimped out Avalanche we're headed there in and normally I try to be myself as much as possible but I'm like, "This is getting ridiculous!" So I figure if he's so well to do that at dinner I ordered steak -- yeah what girl on earth orders steak on a first date. Normally I prefer mine medium well (I'm sure I'll hear how some of you grill 30 seconds each side just to kill bacteria or something), but I know that in the world of "fine dining" medium is the highest that is considered kosher to cook a steak.

So he's flabbergasted that I'm first of all eatting red meat ("I've never seen a girl eat red meat like that!") and second that there is some rather red meat juice on the plate and I'm still going to. I figure this will scare him off and I won't have to worry about it beyond that. Well, no! That's what I get for submitting to stupid games! It was kind of understood that the date would end after that but then he wants to go to a movie and I'm like, "What the hell. He bought me a steak."

So he opts to play Italian opera on the way there asking me about my passtimes and I tell him. I'm thinking my unusual behavior would get him not interested, but he was just dumped by a flakey girl and he's looking for the "woman of substance" type. Unlucky me. So he continues to mention the steak thing, turns out it was a turn on, and the next day he seriously called me 3 times. Finally I was like, "I have your number, I'll call you." Why was I so mean? He very much wanted to settle down and I'm not ready yet. So yeah, not gonna order steak on a first date again.

Meet, meat, mete - enough already!!

Speaking of women eating red meat - there's a place near me called "Denny's Beer Barrel Pub" and they had this demure little thang from NJ was the first to eat their monster burger following all the rules.

Here she is.

Great story. I'd heard about it before and have felt a certain kinship to brave women from NJ for a few years now. The Garden State has a special place in my heart (and sense of humor).

That totally sounds like my little sister. One of her first years of college she went out on a date with a football player (but in fairness I don't think he played college ball). She told him she was hungry and he laughed her off. Bad idea -- she's way more fiery than me. She bet him she could out eat him and of course he agreed. I mean who would believe a girl that is just under 6 feet tall and weighs 120 ate anything at all? Yeah, she totally kicked his ass. Of course he thought it was love. What is it with guys and liking things that are actually kinda gross?

I was dropping off the kids to school today and one of the moms pulls up in the bus only parking lane with a bumper sticker that said " Stop Slavery boycott the Circus"

I feel sorry for the kids. They may never see a nice grilled steak and will be taught that eating meat is some kind of sin. Image going out for pizza with your 15 year old friends and saying I can’t even have cheese pizza because there might be some animal fat in the cheese.

As a man I want a woman that will let me make the kill and be thankful for the rewards not equate my children to animals.

A woman that picks and preens about there food screams “I’m a high maintenance Bit**”

Both men and woman want a strong provider for the flock.

My wife loves supper rare stake and would help me make the kill if need be. On our first date she ordered a hamburger and said “I want it pink inside” and I was thinking the same thing.

A keeper!

Okay, okay. Lesson learned. Ordering a steak is hot, I'll be sure to get a salad -- with no dressing -- the next time I'm not into a guy. But I must not be a keeper, I sometimes get a little queasy if my burger is pink.

Most of the men in my family hear the call of our ancestors and are immediately attracted to strong women who are decisive and direct. Although I married an Irish/french woman, I have always been attracted to Latino and Italian women. Social generalization? Possibly...

My first date with my wife, she ordered steak and she ordered it rare. She ate with dignity and with relish. I found myself asking if she was the one, even though I had made up my mind to cat around for a couple of years. So much for that... Women who are strong and intelligent are the only ones to be with...

BUT... the days of "she ordered the lobster!, I'm gonna get some!" are OVER.
So why does Our Poor Duchess need to feel guilty or awkward about being hungry for meat protein? Because of outdated modes of thought designed to obligate women.

Guys lets all be honest with each other for a moment...
( steps onto soapbox)


1. Girls Eat. They need to do it. I also understand that they burp, fart and occasionally feel about as sexy as a tire swing...Not every woman prances around in Victoria Secret clothes just waiting for you...unless you're Hugh Heffner...

2. A date is a ritual where two people start to get to know each other. The object of the game is to see if it's worth it to repeat the process. So you DONT want to make her uncomfortable about what she eats. The point is to make her feel at ease. Why should she worry about something as basic as food? If youre that friggin uptight, what the hell is in store for her down the road?

3. "Most Expensive thing on the Menu." mentality proves two things to women:
a. Youre a self centered bastard who doesnt see women for the human beings they are and are used to thinking of them in terms of payment owed. Evolve a thumb for chri'sake!
b. Youre a cheap ass son of a bitch because you cant stick a crowbar into your wallet to show a person who might be perspective mate a good time. Sure you look good in your clothes and your car, but inside, you suck!...and deep down inside you know it!

PS. Go "Dutch" only at the ladies request...Dont say I didnt warn you...

4. If you have ever uttered or thought any of the following phrases, then you are a selfish, immature weiner who doesnt deserve a decent woman...

a ( wow thats a lot of food)
b (where does she put it all?)
c (See number three...)
d ( this is gonna cost a lot)
e ( cute waitress..)
f ( If I sneak through the bar, I can check the game scores..)
g ( this music will make her think Im cool...)
h ( WAAAAHHHH!!!! I didnt get any!)*
* TRANSLATION: "You are a confirmed giant weiner, what makes you think sex is an option?"

5. If you portray yourself to be anything that you arent ( or at least evolving into...) then , once again, you are a weiner...go to your room!

6. If a date isnt going very well and you know, and she knows it, then call it what it is and finish. Be nice, cause sometimes the "let off pressure" can have fun side effects, but be honest. Cause if you know its not going well, but you are still scheming to get her in the sack... then she knows it!... and after the date all 30 of her friends will know it too.
But if youre honest she will tell her friends your okay...better than a sharp stick in the eye?

7 and last but not least...the Golden Rule. This goes for every human interaction...
"Try to leave them a little better than you found them."

Do that one thing and it will all work out well in the end.

(gets down off soapbox)




PS. Duchess ordering a steak is fine. Its the guy who is an idiot...I will buy you a steak anytime and not expect a thing in return...

Thank you, Samurai Jack!

You wouldn't happen to have a single younger brother living west of the Mississippi would you? You never know, when I'm out east again I might take you up on the steak. Thanks again!

PS Sorry Sensibull. Everything I touch turns into something it wasn't intended to be -- but it's usually fun!

Not to squelch the e-ffair, but for those who like closure, I just installed a new propane tank and my grill fired up on first try.

No spider hunt for me...

FWIW, I will be grilling somewhat lean burgers and I will be sure to give my wife the bigger patty.

*Brushes tear from corner of eye* I'm so happy for you! Life just isn't complete without a functioning grill. Oh yeah and hurrah that no spiders were harmed in the making of those burgers.

Shame on all of you for using Gas. grilling should be done over charcoal.

Yes, but you can always invert one of the burner caps and drop a lump or two in there...
I seriously miss my Weber "Smokin Joe" mini-globe grill...

Damn, now I need to go find one...

Sure smokey flavor is great, but who has 3 hours to cook dinner? Oh man, is this going to turn into an episode ... of King of the Hill.

Winona Judd: Here you go Mr. Hill. (hands him an autographed copy of herself)
Hank Hill: I hope you'll remember what I said.
Winona Judd: (suddenly angry) I was born with charcoal and I will die with charcoal!

"You honor me, by giving me gas..."

I was going to bring that up earlier, but didn't want to start a "flame" war.

Ooooo! BURN!

Wow, with a pun that bad why do I feel like I just walked onto the set of a 70s James Bond movie?

I just stumbled into this thread for some unknown reason (please don't flog me for my lack of grilling skills) and I find SJ diss'n my fetish!

And I can't believe nobody called her majesty on the tuna can reference!

At the risk of sending this thread further down the old studs thread road, speaking of spiders making homes in things, anyone else get creeped out by this report?...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/07/spiderboy.ap/index.html

My wife read me that spider thing from the newspaper on the way to work this morning. How strange is that???