Well, I don't have any money right now, I'm trying to get by with just building a good projector. I wish I could help develop things; but over the summer, if this project is still alive, I will see if I can buy one to test.

Any news on these panels or is this dead. Would like to go with as small an LCD as possible on my next build, but would also like to be able to use a controller like the MST9E19A used on the 10.6".

If you have an actual quote from them that says $11 for the LCD, you can try to hold them to that... It's their mistake, not yours... But then again, this new price sounds much more realistic. I may still be game if we find the right controller that will run this.

Yeah it was there fault the price's on the first page are right i was waiting to post until i got that flipping data sheet, but thats really hard to find. Anyway its not dead by any means im just waiting to get as much info as possible befor ordering them

Keep us updated. Im sure there will be alot of interest in a screen this size at that resolution.

currently on the phone with sharp trying get a data sheet. Been told to call 3 differnt #'s no one can seem to find the darn data sheet! OH GREAT A NEW #!! Well im up to 4 #'s and the 4th will need to wait til tommarow because sharp tech is closed (closed at 4:45pm WHAT!!).

Alright finally some good news I made it tech as you know and this the last stop on sharp train so to speak and i called them and they do have it but its on a different system i guess so there going to call me when they get it and email it to me!!

So what you're saying is that it was really easy to get a hold of and you didn't have to jump through any hoops at all... Nice job on your persistence, I look forward to seeing it.

Yes, very exciting news indeed!

Well its a been a day and nothing has been. I just off the phone with them and now they cant even find it there data bae which is tupid because its made by them. Ill call back and hope not to get the same guy but this is really stupid and there acting like data sheets are secretely guard and asked me where im calling from and my company and why i need this info and stuff sooooo ill let you all know how it goes

Ok heres the greatest from our friends at sharp! When they make LCD panels used in laptops and such they ship the panel and all of the information that goes with the panel to those companys such as dell, or hp, or who ever, soooo i need to find out which laptop uses this panel. DANG!!

If you have reached a company that doesn't keep track of products that they manufacture I would be concerned in how well they are made. Someone is giving you the run around because they are not sure why you want this data.

Well now I found out that this is the replacement panel for the Toshiba U100 and i called every Toshiba they gave me but they only have the basic specs on like brightness and resoltion, not the things we need like LVDS cable type. Sooo I dont know where to go from here...

Hi,

Ive got two people at sharp working on this.

The reason you have been having trouble is because this LCD is a custom piece done for a larger company. There is still stock of it, and it can be manufactured on demand, but it was not manufactured for sale to the general public. Lets keep looking, Im sure we'll find it.

Christof

I made some contacts with suppliers for the panel. I still havent received any data sheets, but I wil work on that. I received 3 prices last night and expect to get a few more. I am working on getting a single sample, and pricing for a group buy. If we can get a controller like the MST that would be great.

Hi Guys,

I got the data sheets for these panels.

How do I send you the data ?

Someone got an e-mail I can shoot it to ? Ill posts some data here now and send the pdf off when Im at a high speed spot.


Christof

I wanna put one of these panels in the simple-to-make flourescent backlit kits that are being put together on this thread!

Heres some to get you started.

CN1 (LVDS signals and +3.3V DC power supply)
Pin No. Symbol Function Remark
1 Vcc +3.3V power supply
2 Vcc +3.3V power supply
GND
3
GND
4
RxIN0- Receiver signal of LVDS CH0 (-) [Note 1]
5
RxIN0+ Receiver signal of LVDS CH0 (+) [Note 1]
6
RxIN1- Receiver signal of LVDS CH1 (-) [Note 1]
7
RxIN1+ Receiver signal of LVDS CH1 (+) [Note 1]
8
RxIN2- Receiver signal of LVDS CH2 (-) [Note 1]
9
RxIN2+ Receiver signal of LVDS CH2 (+) [Note 1]
10
CK IN- Receiver signal of LVDS CLK (-) [Note 1]
11
CK IN+ Receiver signal of LVDS CLK (+) [Note 1]
12
GND
13
GND
14
[Note 1] Relation between RxINi(i=0,1,2) and actual data is shown in following section (4-2)(7-2).
[Note 2] The shielding case is connected with signal GND.


Connector part No.
Connector part No. User’s Connector part No.
CN1 20268-014E-01F (I-PEX) 20230-014B (I-PEX) or equivalent
CN2 DF19G-8P-1H (HIROSE) DF19-8S-1C (HIROSE) or equivalent

Can you attach the pdf to this thread?

dude you rock!!!! Im soo happy right now!!! I just PM'd you my email address I dont really want alot of people to get my email address so that why I didnt post it here. If you wouldnt mind emailing me that data sheet that would great!! Dude you rock im not even kidding well done. WERE GETTING 7.2" 720p PANELS . There will be a buy group for these buy the way!!!

Hey I have a supplier all lined up for these panels right now and he is ligament the prices for the LCD's are on the first page, if you find them cheaper let me know. By the way just so you know if you if it says 12.8 per peice that would be a typo, I was about to buy 10 when he sent me the final quote it says $1,280. The supplier im going to use now is 120 for anything under ten and 110 for 10-20 LCD's (he will lower the price if I oder them befor July which shouldnt be a problem!!). Also through the service i would be using I send my money to the trading HQ in the US and they dont send my money to supplier until they get my panels in soo theres no way to ripped off (unlike ebay)!!!!

That's very good news.

Can you post the PDF once you get it? I'd like to see it.

I'm looking forward to a build with this panel. The small size opens up a whole world of possibilities...

Oh some amazing new the contrast ratio is 350!!

Sounds great. Ill get in on the group buy as soon as its available.

C.

Any know how to post a PDF file i want to post this data sheet

Also does anyone know if we can tell if a controller will work with this panel by looking at the data sheet?

I think when you reply to a post, you select File Attachement "Choose File", then locate the file on your computer.

After you locate the file you Click on "Add This Attachment"

Then Click on "Add into Post"

Then Click on "Add Reply"

I'm attaching a test pdf. If you can get the attached test pdf, then the above steps work.

Later,

MovieFreak

Click to view attachment

Alright well I figured out how to post the file but its too big so mods can you help me out?

If you attach it to a PM, I can probably reduce the file size for you and then post it.

Regards,

MovieFreak

Almost any Lcd will work with any controller if the controller is programed for it and you have the datasheet so you can make an appropriate Lvds cable with the correct pin-out.

Hey jonjandran do you want to have a look at that datasheet, I think you are the best on this forum with LCD's and such so I could email you the datasheet if you wouldnt mind having a look at it.

Send it to me and I'll host it for everyone.

jonjandran @ wavetel.us (remove the spaces)

Would be great if we can hook this panel up with the MST controller. Cant wait to start true a 720p 7" projector.

sent the datasheet to jj he said he will get posted (THANKS!). I see Evo mods lots and lots of Evo in the near future!!

Here is the datasheet for the 7.2" Wxga Panel.

Link

Don’t get your hopes up on using this LCD with the 10.6” LCD controllers. The 10.6” LCD uses a 2 channel LVDS interface. The 7.2” LCD only uses single channel LVDS, at least that is what I could tell from the PDF.
Some controllers can be set to single channel LVDS but I think it requires a flash.

DJ

Did I read right that the response time is 45ms for this panel..how does that compare with the 10.6 ?

I'm going to get this LCD Panel (out of a libretto u100/u105 or the Sharp Mebius CV50)

What do I need to test it with the MST controller? Do I use the LVDS cable that comes with it?

and if the MST doesn't support single channel LVDS, are there any controllers that do?

If you need to ask those questions you don't need to be messing with it .

You will need a custom made cable that is wired specifically for the Mst controller.

How do we find out what controller we need ? Jonjordan can you help us out ? Id like to get building this projector soon, and this panel is perfect.

Thanks
C.

Alright well from looking at the data sheet this is a 1 channel LVDS LCD and we need a controller that also supports smaller LCD's. I found this controller it looks like it would fit the bill Controller. Its a single channel LVDS with 720p and 1080i support it also said something about 1080p, it also has DVI, and HDMI. Ill keep looking for single channel controllers.

Just pm Carpow and offer to send him the Lcd and Datasheet and see what he can come up with.

It's easier to get things done overseas because that's where the stuff comes from to begin with. And Carpow has been doing this sort of thing for a while so he'll have more ideas and tools to work with.

mdmfootball, I didn't see DVI or HDMI on that controller... Only analog inputs listed in the datasheet.

Also, why does it need to be single channel LVDS? I could see that if the LCD was dual channel you would need a dual channel controller, but whats wrong with just using one of the two channels on a dual channel controller? Heck, maybe you could use one controller to drive two displays...

The search is on now though...

OH my bad I posted the wrong verison of that controller heres the one with DVI and HDMI the only difference in the product # was that the HDMI one had an H after it (I changed it up top too). As for the dual channel thing I dont think it works like that I think single goes with single and dual goes with dual but I could be wrong.

EDIT: The more I look at the data sheet the more I think iths dual channel look at page 6 on the data sheet and tell me what you think

It says single channel LVDS on the website and PDF. How do you purchase the FLI8541H controller? I couldn't find anything on Google.

Looks like a nice controller if it'll work. I especially like this part:

But it sounds like there may be firmware updates necessary to support the panel natively... Perhaps you could get in contact with them to see what would need to be done and how much for a properly updated controller...

Okay, the WXGA Panel is on it's way!

Jonjandran, if you want to test the panel with the MST controller or any others you have, I think I only live less than 2 hours away from you.

I also might send the panel to MDMfootball. I just have to check how it fits an enclosure I have first.

Again, does ANYONE know how to get the FLI8541 LCD controller from Genesis? It sounds perfect with HDMI, HDCP, Single channel etc.. I don't think it would need anthing other than a custom LVDS cable.

Sweet where did you order it from ? Id love to order one to do some testing.

C.

It would need a firmware update to get the resolution and timings right by default. Otherwise you may run into issues where it sees the panel as 1280x1024 like a couple controllers did for the 10.6", or shift the picture to one of the sides like the genesis controller did for the 10.6"... That is not to say that this is necessarily true for this panel, it might just all work together. I'm just putting it out there... I'm very excited to see this work, so I'm hoping for the best.

True, but it's a wxga controller with a wxga panel. The controller is for 16:9 single channel wxga panels (HDTV).
But yeah, the actual timings and pixel offset could be off.