Ok it's 4am and i just ordered my 17" Samsung Syncmaster 740 from Dustin.se and im tired as hell..

Yesterday i orderd the Pro-lens kit but from www.diy-beamer.com (for us europeian guys) and to that
i'll top it all off with an Osram 400W lamp

http://diy-beamer.com/EN/store/comersus_vi...p?idProduct=276 <-- Lamp kit


http://diy-beamer.com/EN/store/comersus_vi...p?idProduct=286 <-- Lens kit


It will be the basic box-configure and probably will be split optics since im gonna mount it in the celing.

i just figured i'd start a Plog and then go to bed, i gotta get some sleep, just had a baby daughter 25
days ago so they tend to mess up yer sleeping-patterns hehe

But if u have any good tips or one of those "WHATEVER THE F**K U DO!! DON'T [insert tip here] !!!"
just hollor =)

Ronin,

Congrats!

It this your first? No, not your PJ.. that is obvious... is this your first child or are you onto your fifth?

Cheers!

Fulcrum

Whatever you do:

• don't have more kids.
• don't take as long as that Durachko did to get something working.
• don't spend less than half your life researching in the forums.
• don't think you're going to get off cheap doing this.
• don't expect to not lose even more sleep once you start your projector.
• don't expect to be satisfied once you're "done".
• don't be shocked when your friends can't believe what you've done.
• don't watch more than 23 hours of DVD's per day.
• don't spend half your life savings on an overpriced screen.
• don't believe elken is an alien.
• don't ever bait me again like this.

Welcome and best of luck with your daughter and your projector.

Yup it's my first =) it's a whole new world and man do i love it



HAHA .. last nail in the coffin huh? hehe guess im screwed lol.



I figured i'd update with a new picture =) i bought a Radial Fan for about 27usd and it runs on 220V and has it's own ballast, and DAMN IT MOVES SOM MASIVE AMOUNTS OF AIR!! think i might need a dimmer to rev it down a bit cuz this thing is insane hehe.

Thinking of designing the box so that i can mount the fan inside the box making the noiselevels go down a bit, using funnels in a way, i'll see what i'll come up with =)

Hmm how do i upload pictures? i attached a pic but it didn't show up anywhere.. weird.

I just had to figure that one out myself today for my plog. Click on "More Options", then browse for your pic and click the add attachment or something like that button. If the file is small enough it will then be listed and you will need to click on the add to post button. I'm not sure what the file size limit is but the pics I added were about 18K. I used a program called IrfanView to compress the photos to a smaller size. You can download it for free. I got it on tucows.

There we go! here's a picture of it, it's a small one but u get the idea =)

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The fan is a 220V fan, i can fix a small video of how much noise it makes when it's in free air, will do that on request only tho, if yer interested let me know.

Lets just hope my stuff arrives as soon as possible =) ive heard it's a simple monitor to strip so im not too worried =)


Designwise ive been thinking a bit, and since it's gonna be quite a major part of the room why not go all out building something that looks a lil better than a box, so it'll be a haas-style Sorta box but probably without the roundings, will probably just be flat surfaces but still it looks better than a large box hanging from the ceeling hehe

Later updates when i get the stuff for messuring, need to know that in order to start designing the box.

couple things im thinking about, what's the advantage of building a lightbox? im gonna use a precondenser lens infront of the lamp to somewhat fiddle with the light but im not quite sure what's the advantage besides the cooling-issue

Today i was at ikea and i was gonna buy the bowl reflector but damn the size i was looking for was out, they only had the 20cm one (about 7,8"). So i turned my heal and headed for the exit when i walked passed some kitchentools that caught my attention, check this out =)

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i allso found another one that wasn't completely sphearical but it was interesting how it reflected the light at my face from the ikea roof, so i bought it too, it has a flat surface but its brushed inside so i need to give it a good ol pollish to make it reflect perfectly =)

Here are some pictures of it =)
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i allso bought a load of tools that'll be usefull =D I'll take a picture and add in a min or 2

Hopefully my monitor arrives monday =)

Hey Ronin,do you have a link to that fan???
(Looks like you have made a great start. )
Cheers P

Hmm cant say i have, they had like 4-5 of them on the shelf in the shop where i found them, no name no brand no information, other than it's running on 220V Sorry But it's one hellofa hairdryer i'll tell ya that -No heat needed hehe

I can post a video of it if ya like, just gotta find someplace to upload it to hmm

Thanks,Ronin.
I am looking for a fan that will fit into a 4 x 24 cm space!
i thought it might have been worth a look.
Cheers P

I'll take some messurements of it tomorow, gotta go to bed but i'll get back to ya on the dimensions, i might be able to buy one for ya if ya pay for everything - Go easy mate Later.

Finaly my Samsung screen arrived today =) No Dead pixels what so ever =) =)

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Sorry for the crappy pics, im taking them with my Phone in poor lightning, i'll use a real cam when everything beginns =)

oh btw the fan's opening is 183x40mm - i found some specs about it in the shops own catalog and it sais that it moves 40liters\sec =D=D That's quite massive - easy to tune down with a standard light dimmer.
Let me know if ya need one, shouldn't be too hard to arrange =)

I'll keep yall updated

Here's a video showing the Radialfan's noiselevel and allso how powerfull it is in free air (it's even more powerfull when it's covered a bit, the revs go up and it starts blowing like crazy

Link to video - 4mb WMV

Well that's all for tonight, im goin to bed, it feels sorta like im talking to myself in here hehe, oh well lol

Nice video!!
Sounded prettyquiet!!
If it is less than 244mm wide in total,I'd love one!!
It looks as if it may be absoluteley perfect for my box!!
Cheers P

hmm it seems like it's 252 wide, i could ponder if there's a way to shrink it a bit tho, i'll get back to ya on that mate

okay i just did some calculating and i allso used the lumenlabtool to see how big my screen would get, and if these inputs are corect

LCD Size 17" (exactly)
FL Tripplet 19"
Distance to scrn 179"
=Scrnsize 143"

Is this corect? i mean ffs 143" !!!!

This is 143 inches in 4.3..

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lol..

hmm yet another thing i bumped into, i read some about precondensor lenses and i couldn't wrap my head around it quite as easily as i wanted..

Ive ordered this PClens




and this Rear fresnel



DIY-06-0002 Fresnel 431mm x 406mm, F=220mm




The problem im seeing is using that PC with the low FL rear fresnel, will it cover the whole fresnel or will it cause a problem?

Any tips about how to "think" concerning precondensers would be a big help, what should the messure be between the bulb and the PC and between the PC to the Fresnel? One other thing, when using a PC, should the lightsource still be placed at the FL of the rear fresnel? or does the precondenser become the "lightsource" when one is being used?

gosh im getting messy hehe

hmm how long does it take when making a wire transferr within EU before the money drops into the recievers account? It's been a couple days now and im starting to wonder...

What I recall it takes the day you paid plus two banking days, so it would take at least 3 days untill they see the money transfer, but it depends how long the banking day is

Just send them an email and tell that you've paid, try to use german, because sometimes it's really pain in the ass getting message throught in english.

okay back from a good night's sleep, i just spoke with Mr-DIY-beamer and he had just recieved the transffer and shipped the stuff off right away!

I must say he he has been by far the best dealer ive found concerning DIY projector stuff, easy to get along with, u can keep an open dialog with him and his english was superb, no problems what so ever on that part =)

So if you're in europe (he ships worldwide too tho =) check out his site if LL dont have in stock or if prices vary. http://diy-beamer.com Send him an email if ya have questions and he'll be happy to help ya out in any way he can.

Thanks for the reply tho ArhPos u were right it took 4 days with this morgning included so u where spot on.

Anyways my lenses and ballast and lights are on their way and IM UBER EXITED =D=D=D=D=D

A question tho, should i cut the fresnels or should i keep the size they're in? the display is 365mm wide with housing (slim frame) and the fresnels are 436mm if im not misstaking, seems kinda large to me but if there are any advantages in that then sure bacon i'll leave them as they are.

It is up to you.If you have enough room in your box,then leave them uncut,but much bigger than the lcd is a waste,and the extra light passing through may need to be controlled.
P

oh ok, so it's no real advantage in having larger fresnels than maybe a cm bigger in width\hight of the lcd?

I cut my fresnels to be about 1/2" (~13cm) bigger on each side after they were enclosed in my fresnel frame. I haven't had any problems with that size.

u mean ~13mm ? Sounds about fair, thanks for the input mate, really appriciate it, this is good news cuz it means i can cut my box nice and snug around the lcd =D

Ronin,

Where did you order your condensor lense from?

Cheers!

Fulcrum

Hey fulcrum! nice to see ya in my thread, wellcome to my humble home, uhm i ordered everything but the LCD from www.DIY-Beamer.com =) Great dealer and he had 3 condenser lenses to choose from -rock on.

ok is it just me or is it normal to become like a 9 year old before christmas knowing u're gonna get that first real BIG present this year ?

I NEEED MY LENSES! i have an urge.. a need.. a frustration, i cant bloody sleep at night - all im talking about and all im thinking about is my daughter and this frickin PJ..

I mean i find myself talking about this frickin project with my daughters mom, who's .. not so interested hehe.

ehm not to mention im sitting here talking to myself.. guess i'll put this smoking thing out, it's messing with me head.

Haha, I know what you mean. Fortunately for me, my co-worker is building a projector at the same time as me so I do have an outlet for all this pent-up creativity and anticipation. I'm having a lot of fun with my build but I think I am looking forward to just getting this thing done... it'll be nice not to spend every waking ounce of my spare time/thoughts into putting a pretty picture up on the wall.

haha i hear ya mate, i love having a project tho, it's one thing finishing it but the road there is what counts =)

Yep,it is such a great journey,but one day you will reach the destination.
Then,what do you do the day after????
P

hehe yeah that's one of those questions lurkin in the back of my head but at the time im finished with this one there might have been some revolution in the DIY PJ world and i'll "haveto" start all over again lol

Ronin,

That is a really nice movie room, and some nice speakers too.

Cheers!

Fulcrum

Oh thanks Fulcrum, im having issues with that big screen tho, where the heck do i mount my centerspeaker? lol, oh well i'll think of something, im planning om making a fixed screen with real dark red drapes and some up\down spots on both sides of the screen just to add to the "cinema" feeling lol

ive found a nice old neontube-sign saying "movietime" wich im thinking of mounting in the hallway going into this livingroom hehe.

more pictures will come when i get started building this sucker, i need my lenses first, they'll drop in next week if ive understood everything corectly =)

ok i just gotta chip in and ask a question while im here, im confused.. ive seen sooo many drawings with the pro triplet and the 650 fresnell and they all have different distances, how far to the inner edge of the triplet should the display be and how about the distance between the display and the front 650 fresnell? im lost.. ive seen so many versions of that caclulation, ever since LL shipped the wrong FL front fresnels there has been discussions goin on about that.

Please if ya know chip in and let me in on that frickin secret

Anyone?

About 22", but leave 1.5" either way for focus adjustment.

okay mate thanks.

"mumbles" i need my lenses... now.. now!! NOW! NOW!!!! grr this is messed up, i need a catscan or something cuz no way that a project can mess with my head this much! - are we as a rase this weak? lol

FINALLY!!!! =D=D=D=D I've got the stuff!!

All i need to keep me on a highway to DIY heaven =D

It's getting late here and my daughter is being a bit grumpy tonight so i gotta get me arse out'a here but here's a pic of a VERY wellpacked parcel.

Not to mention i just spent 1000 bucks on home-cinema stuff from NAD =D (2 boxes to the right)





More pictures will come tomorow, just gotta say thanks to Gerhard at DIY-Beamer.com for some of the best service ive recieved so far, fast shipping and not even WWIII would harm this parcel, oh and did i mention i figured out he was a smoker lol, once i opened the parcel i quickly realized first of all he must have spent a whole afternoon just packing this stuff, and probably 4-6 smokes before he was done lol.

All in all it was a wellsmoked - wellpacked parcel and im pleased to see he used 2 flat peices of 1" thick styrofoam for the fresnels, good work Gerhard!.

Ok nuff sunshine on his ass he did a good job and he knows it so lets just leave it at that!.

More updates tomorow as i plan to testrun the lamp tomorow night.

Peace out.

WOW,I want a delivery like that!!
Please??????
Lookin Good,Ronin.I'm looking foreward to seeing your progress.
P

hehe i bet =D

Anyways here are some pictures, havent slept much tonight, fiddeled around with the tripplet holding it infront of my Samsung when it was pitch dark in my room and it projected an image on the wall HEHE fun shit.

oh well here goes.

i had my daughter helping me, and by that i mean growling and moaning and making noises i didn't even know a small little thing like that could create =D




i started unpacking the lamp and IT*S HUGE!






Sorry if im overposting pictures but i figure it's better i post one too many than one too few

The magnetic ballast Heavy sucker..




Powercord and some wires, the FC2 sockets (packed in wellpap) and the igniter




Closeup of the Igniter




This fella got to enjoy my new amp before me.. bastard!

Here's an example of how well packed the items were, this is the Pyrex Precondenser lens
Bubblewrap enough to bring a man back from insanity

inside the 2 inches of bubblewrap is a bubblewrap bag.

Inside that bag is the pyrex lens wrapped in protective fibre paper.

and here's the lens itself =)



Tried playing around a bit with the Precondenser and i now realize how it works and it's gonna need some tweaking before i get it right =) but i cant see why a precondenser setup right would not improve overall brightnes, seeing the effect it does infront of a lamp. - i think there's alot of people out there who doesn't understand what the precondenser really does so i'll take a couple pictures demonstrating tonight to those guys who has no clue as to what a precondenser does.

And the fresnels

i didn't take a picture of them cuz i didn't wanna remove the wrap just yet, but as i said before
it came in between 2 large plates of styrofoam and was very well protected - Thumbs up Gerhard.





Sure does look pretty =D just haveto figure out a good way to cut them to the right size without harming them

Any good tip about how to cut these suckers?