Hello
Thanks to some politness and persistence, were finaly able to get these nice small panels to our shores(in small quantity group buys) from China. 10.6" WXGA. spec:
http://www.beyondinfinite.com/lcd/Library/...TN106W2-L01.pdf

So, a big thanks to Carpow, and a big thanks to member Johnzo.

Johnzo is conducting the group buys, so he is the one to contact. Before you do, pop into the group buy thread to see what the current status is. http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16528

The set up includes a controller, which at the moment is sort-of in its beta versions, and were trying make the best choices and matches for the chip and hardware.

If you are new to the forums, welcome.
That said, the answers too many questions regarding optics,lighting, and general principals can (and should) be found in the referance& tutorials and beginers section. If you have joined us, you came at an exiting time. LCDs with these specs were previously availble in 15.4" and 17" sizes. So take advantage of these wonderfull boards at lumenlab to answer your basic questions. The great community of moderaters and customers do a great job of organizing the information you need to get started.





Enjoy.
The first few pages is just what it took to get the kits over here. Disscussion starts around page 3 on.

I cant get past the chinese characters .. do you have al ink in english?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...d=1#description

I hope thats yuan and not dollars yoshua. In currency exchange this would (assuming thats yuan) equals to $185.00.

Yep, its Yaun.
Carpow set the total: 220$

Not a bad deal at all eh?

Thats if the deal does infact transpire.... Im having a little trouble paying the good man.

Details:
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=181712

I don't see anything about the controller.

I think it may be a misprint and there really isn't a controller included just the Lcd.

I dunno Jon,
The listing title clearly states "with controller"...
If thats a mis-print... it would be malicious wouldnt you say?
These are DIY PJ builders after all... with controller is a HUGE statement.

but I too have had a feared the controller is getting "lost in translation"

But then again, the seller has 0 feedback, so Im hoping carpow just threw it on there, put the important specs on the LCD, and didnt get into the controller description.

Thats possible.... isint it....

Well considering you're getting the Lcd for $100 less than you can get it for here, and there's no pic of the controller or controller info, I'd say no controller.

But I hope you do get it.

You may be correct Jon,(love your PJ& theater BTW!)

BUT, Dont sleep on how much lower labor and production costs are in that neck of the woods...
Really changes the whole ball-game. Alot of that "China's the next Super-power" stuff stems from
thier economy having some interesting/unbeliveable tricks up its sleeve.

Clearly Im thinking about this too much.

I sure hope I get it too....

If you check out the ledpj thread, and their site, it has this and 2 other lcd with controller packages that they sell on a Chinese auction site. So Im still holding out some belif.

I emailed carpow to clear it up,
So hopefully I will know soon...

Oh Jon...
your just pissed you got the Minoten panel

Jk,

still ironing out the payment process... so not in the bag yet.

Im doing my best to update by the nano-second.

Good thing Im nocturnal... that works well for US/China communications and relations!

Nice...... I hope it's true...I'd probably be a buyer.

Figured I would mention,

every corrispondence from the source has been either a few words, or just a link

The picture above provides a nice explanation and response too my last query.
drooooooooooL.

If I can just figure out how to pay, it would be awesome!
Hopefully its somthing simple with paypal....

I know carpow has my adress.... and he sent a total...
So there's gotta be a simple way to pay, were just having trouble understanding eachother.

Anyone have any ideas as to the paypal snafu?

If he wasnt registered, it would say that right?
It wouldnt say "dosent except foriegn currency" right?

I tried US and Hong Kong dollar.
Theres no Yaun option in the currency menu on paypal.

Is it likley a simple fix in either of our paypal accounts?

See if he can "request money" from you using the info you provided (your paypal info).

Thanks,

I tried to ask him with translation from english to chinese.

Why cant english be the official language of the world!? It would make life so much easier!

If you are able to get this panel, let me know i will send you a Mini Hass Enclosure, so we can see how the new panel will work the new one i made, it should fit in nicely, you can see it on my mini hass projector plog, I still need to finish the one i have, it used the LL 400w bulb also, which will provide good brightness for it.

joe

I will definetly take you up on that Joe!
As much as I love my Dukane 575w, I would like to build to LL specs with this panel, for consistency's sake.

Im still waiting for a response in regards to the payment...
so close!

I think I will call paypals customer service today to see if they can be of any help.

It'd be awesome if this panel turns out as good as we hope it is. $220 for a wxga panel that includes a controller...I'd be interested in that! Good luck, yoshuaspawn (and thanks for being the guinea pig)!

OK,
Talked to paypal, and it seems to be what I suspected...
apparently he just needs to disable an option on his paypal account.
They have sent him an email as well, which I hope will comunicate the problem better.

He usualy writes me back between 12-2 am US time, so hopefully I will hear from him with good news late tonight.
Fingers crossed!

Great find yoshuaspawn, I hope everything works out okay.

He should be able to accept any currency because paypal will do the exchanges. I do a lot of internet business and get paid in different currencies often, and you can just convert it to your "local" currency in a few clicks. If he can just "request" to your email, or you can "send" to his all should be well.

As for the LCD, I would love this thing!, 1280x768 is exactly what im looking for, 15.4 inch would be very nice, but a smaller 10.6 inch seems like a dream.

Good luck mate, I will be watching this thread and wishing you luck!.

I guess there is no problems sending it to the USA? even though the page says "china" only.... im here hoping he can send to England

---Edit:
Just reading again that the payment could not be accepted. He probably just needs to go into the paypal and click "Manage Currency" From there you can open different currencies, I see both USD and Yenn. If he opens the "USD" area you can send the $220 in USD. OR, on your account you should be able to "send money" in Yenn equivalent (which im sure he can accept).

Another vote of support... I hope that things are going well for your buy. If you pave the way for a panel like this, I think I know what my next build will be based on..

agreed, if this works out... I definately will be in the market!

another bump...i was wondering what would be the best lens for this screen...cause its widescreen the varifocal small form lens probably wouldn't work too well with it right? i'm trying to score a good overhead projector to strip shortly...

think the pro-lens kit would be better for this?

looks awesome! btw

I think the varifocal is for Lcd's around 7"

You could use the Standard Lens, 18" Beseler , or Pro Lens. Depends on what throw you need really.

the varifocal will work with LCD's up to 15", but because of the smaller apature the light output will be slightly less.

joe

Well the LL Store says the varifocal lens is for 10" and smaller Lcd's.

https://secure.lumenlab.com/shop/group.php?id=9

Ok... update.
Either carpow isint understanding the message, or he dosent want to change anything in his paypal...
He did send an ebay invoice, but theres still no accepted payment method for the us

However...
I missed some very discreet text on the item description after i hit the buy it now.
nowhere near the payment method box


Click the Pay Now button to confirm shipping, get the total price, and arrange payment through: escrow.




seems needlessly complicated to me.... and the terms seem kind of extreme for a simple ebay purchase.
but never the less I signed up... looks like this will tack on an additional 25$
could be worse though right?

I guess he has to review the info i put into escrow and agree to it, before the next transaction step.

Sheesh

Escrow is a payment system.

But i still have another questrion - why these panels are not available from overs... only taobao.com austio have these panels ... Grrrrr....

All I knew of Escrow is that its usualy used for bigger purchases... at least 500$

I looked at the original Chinese page again translated w google and followed some links, seems as if escrow has kind of paired w paypal in china.

Re the availiblity, I hear ya!
But hey, if there wasnt any red tape, Brainchild would have likley made somthing similar availible already.
I really hope somthing like this can be put in the LL store after a bunch of evo's roll out . Brain hinted at somthing like this happening not too long ago, but clearly the timing isint right at the moment. He's got enough US-China headaches to last a good long while.
And honestly I dont know if the contrast ratio is high enough to be a match made in heaven for us @ 250:1
But the price and HD capability are hard to argue against.

I was seriously considering paying for a human translator to make this happen!
Still havent ruled it out either, but this escrow thing works out.

why dont you get a translator you are in Boston no? Should take a few minutes to locate a college student in need of lunch. We are all waiting with baited breath! The yuan closed at 7.8811 to the US dollar on the over-the-counter (OTC) market, compared with 7.8716 last Friday.

yoshuaspawn, I also bought a panel from carpow and im having problems paying for the item. I hope he figures a payment method. They use escrow on their auctions. Those chiense guys can really get some cool stuff for a cheap price.

Easier but much more bland in my opinion.

I just got this ebay reply from carpow.

"I do not have the international credit card, the transaction to have the trouble."

Yeah, thats an idea. I go to berklee college of music, and we have plenty of asian students, but mostly from Japan. (They come out of the womb playing Chopin)


I think I will try talking with paypal one more time, and then try to find a translator.

Talked to paypal's global dept.

Its definetly one of two problems.

a) He has chosen to not accept forigen currency in his paypal, and needs to change a setting.

Its a government thing, and it just cant be done.
ie: the "non international" credit card he has on file w paypal/escrow is the only one he can get, and it wont accept foriegn currency for purchases. which i hate to say... sort of seems plausable at this point.


Kind of hit a wall here, but I intend to at least figure out what the problem is.

yoshuaspawn, did you see my previous post?



If you can not communicate with carpow about changing his account settings, why not change yours?. You can open a Yen currency section, and then simply click "send money" to his email address and pay in Yen. He should be able to accept that no problems.
If he can not accept his own currency(very strange).... then im not too sure :/

Thanks for your insight Ma2T,
Unfortunetly though, it's not Japan's Yen. Its Chinese Yuan
At this point I have tried to pay the guy with everything from Dabloons' to Rupies

You were replying while I posted my last reply.
Do you have any ideas on the escrow/china problem?

try MIT micro biology lab or the media lab I bet you can find a translator you are just a few smoots away down mass ave. get on a bike or call the media lab tell em what you are up to.
good luck

Ah , stupid me, Yen, Yuan similar lol. Sorry about that, im hoping you can get this thing.

Unfortunately I don't know anything about escrow :/, but looking at the site(escrow.com) it seems okay, just the $25 charge I guess.

I did a little search for escrow china and found this: http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y05/m02/i03/s02


https://www.alipay.com/. Hopefully you can make use of some payment system.

Good luck!

Carpow tells me alipay is an option,
but im unsure exactly how to join it, or if you are even able to do-so in the US.

Im looking into it still... but its dosent seem like somthing you can just sign up with... dunno.
More language barriers ect.

joechevy2000 mention in tian's tread that he bought one of the led broads, how was he able to send the funds to china. I also bought a 10.6 lcd setup from carpow and I want it real bad. You know that there was carpows phone number on one of the invoices, we can buy a phone card and call him for like 4 cent a minute and try to setup a wire transfer.

Hmmm,
Thats a good point...

I also am really frustated about this. I will pm Joe a link.
I could be wrong, but I feel like the ebay auctions for the led boards were in english originaly, as if they were not listed on ebaychina. I could be wrong there thou.

here's carpows last mailing to me regarding the payment:

"now is unable to use at paypal. my paypal Has not authenticated.
we can use alipay."

Im assuming authenticated means the same thing as "verified" paypal account?

The LED Board was sent to me for testing. So i did not send money.

I Bought a bulb from a guy in china and I send western union, all you do is send the money in his name and he picks it up. Cost a little more but works.

joe

The western union sounds good, carpow just sent me a link for alipay in english buy the link sends you to alipay to regeister which is in chinese. I asked him about a straight wire transfer to his bank. Im waiting to heare back. joe, you didnot have to pay shipping on your led borad, those are some real nice guys then. I hope they help us out the whole way.

I would assume the same. Wouldn't think it would be too hard for him to become verified.

It would be great if you could use alipay, as that seems good for him, but as you said, not too sure how to use it from non china.

western Union could be a good choice, I remember nearly buying a digial camera from someone in china who wanted to be paid via western union. One disadvantage over paypal is that it is not as "safe" no money back garentee thing. If you trust him, go for it.

*fingers still crossed*

Josh Im going to call alipay monday am and find out how alipay, and purchasing from china works. Failing that email me the chinese links my father inlaw is taiwanese and can translate all this stuff.
Seems kinda broken we cant order stuff directly from china.

Thanks,
Definetly look forward to hearing the news. I did call Alibaba's(Taobao's parent Co) USA line, but their was no mention of customer service for the auction site, or alipay.