Where ?

In this PDF: http://us.kontron.com/downloads/datasheet/CRTtoLCD_7.pdf
Under the DVI-Input features it states "High Bandwidth Digital Content Protection".

But I've been talking about the DigitalView SVH-1920 NOT the Kronton controller.

What is the model number of this monitor, the Sharp WUXGA. I have been talking to an Asian cat from ebay that says he can supply controller boards for 1920x1200 resolution LCD screens from laptops. Said he wanted pictures of "my panel" and model number. I am thinking maybe just the model number and FFC specs will suffice...

If you have this or any other WUXGA's model numbers and/or specs, let me know. I will get his prices.

Here's most of the model #'s:

LG Philips LP154WUI, LP154WU1 (A1),LP154WU1 (A01), LP154WU1
Samsung LTN154U1, LTN154U1-L01, LTN154U1-L03, LTN154WU
Sharp LQ154M1LW12, LQ154M1LW02, LQ154M1LW01 ES2, LQ154M1LW01, LQ154M1LW2A, LQ0DZA0043, LQ0DAS6102
Toshiba Matsushita LTD154EZ0S, LTD154EZ0L, LTD154EZ0D, LTD154EZ0C


But the problem is that most companies need the datasheet for the Wuxga Lcd's, and nobody can find them.

If this is true I will most likely scrap the plans to get the G2A130 as long as the price is less than $650 it will be worth it. The GTA is like $345 and the price of the HDCP stripper is ~$300. I really like the idea of having HDCP built in. The future comes at us fast and what is the point of the 1080p res without the ability to hook it to all the new stuff? I have all the HDMI/DVI gear already so I need the HDCP.

I have a quick question about fresnel lenses for the Wuxga.

from the "The Official 15.4" Wuxga Fyi Thread" --
1. You can use the 15.4" WUXGA with the standard LL triplet but you will need larger fresnels because the standard LL fresnels won't cover the entire Lcd.
www.3dlens.com/shop sells the larger sizes. The model # is A395a and A395b. They cost $28 each + shipping.

Can you use the fresnels from the LL Pro Lens kit for the wuxga? I looked up the 3dlens.com fresnels, and they are slightly smaller. I assume you can use the Pro Lens fresnels, but I figure there are no stupid questions and we all know what happens when you assume...

Can I use the Pro Lens kit fresnels with the wuxga monitor?

I don't have my monitor yet, but I'm almost positive that every other WUXGA builder has used the Pro Fresnels. I have them and they are pretty damn huge. Going to have to be cut down. That's the part I'm worried about.

Yes you can use he Pro Lens Kit.

You should have looked at #2

I tried calling Kontron today and they must be on vacation for Thanksgiving. After doing a few loopdy loops through their phone menus I got no one. I will try them again on Monday to get pricing and confirmation.

There is another PDF from kontron, which they call a supplemental manual, that says that HDCP is an option.

I want #%$@ing HDCP on my PJ and I am going to $@&*ing get it even if I have to drive to Taiwan.

Oh man, sorry about that, it was late and I was tired!

I am looking to get the Wuxga LCd and I was wondering if the Pro reflector was really that big of a difference. OR would it be fine to go with just the standard LL triplet.

Well I'm assuming you meant the Pro triplet and not reflector

The standard LL triplet will work fine. The Pro triplet is a little brighter because more of the lamp arc can get in.

But really it's a matter of throw. If you want the projector to be farther back then you'll need the Pro Triplett and fresnels.

The throw for the standard triplet/fresnels is about 1:1, for the Pro it's about 1.6:1

Hey jonjandran. Can you elaborate on what those ratios are actually describing??

Thanks.

Distance from screen : Diagonal projector size.

Standard triplet 1:1
100" from screen : 100" projection.

Pro triplet 1.6:1
100" from screen : 62.5" projection

Ok thanks jonjandran

Ahhhhh... very good. Makes perfect sense.

Thanks a bunch!

I just want to point out that the 1:1 rule of thumb only applies for 15" screens (in this case a 15.4" screen)... don't think anyone has used a 17" WUX panel yet, but thought i'd just mention it...

cheers,
gs

is there a 17" WUX panel?

oh yea, they're out there... although I don't see the reason to go that way over a 15.4" as it's just a larger area to illuminate for the same resoltuion, and throw would be reduced...

eBay example.

cheers,
gs

Yeah, I noticed the 17"ers when I was looking for my 15"er. They seem to be easier to find than even the 15"ers lately!

(sorry, that was kind of pointless to post in this particular thread... I'll try to keep the chatter to a minimum )

Does anyone know the response time of the 17 in. displays? I really want an LCD w/ 16ms response time or less. The Sharp and Toshiba 15.4 in. displays do not, and apparently we don't have any information about the LG or Samsung displays.

http://computers.search.ebay.com/wuxga-17_...itsearchZSearch

If you search for WUXGA 17 on Ebay, you will see some glossy LCD screen for Sony laptops that go for $239

Can somebody tell me how long is the LVDS cable in the G2A130 kit? My controller still did not arrive, but I want to figure out placement. Thanks in advance.

I talked to Kontron today.
They have a distributor in Mass. They said if I want I can go visit them.
The super decked out controller with component, vga, div (w/ HDCP), rca, etc. is $250
sounds like we have a deal.

The guy from Kontron is sending me the info for the guys down in Mass. I am gonna get them one the horn today if I can and see what I can find out. I told the guy at Kontron that WinMate was taking LCD panels and programming the BIOS for them, he said that he is pretty sure that the guys in MA can do that too. MA is not far from me. If I have to I will bring the freakin panel down to them.

Hell I might even organize a group buy for these boards if anyone is interested.

If you did, would you be able to ship overseas?

I talked to the sales guy down at all american (the distro for Kontron in MA) and he is going to go down and talk the the Engineers and get back to me about support for the sharp flatpanel..... I'll keep you posted.

A lot of times the controller is cheap. But then you have to add the power adapter,osd board and cable, remote, Lvds cable, etc and the price skyrockets.

Make sure you ask about all the extras

I asked for a quote for the full package.
Even if it is more than the WinMate controller it does have HDCP.

So to me you could say that the WinMate G2A210 ($412) + HDCP Stripper (~$300) is the top price for what I want right now. Anything < $712 = Deal to me.

Good point

If you give me money why the hell not?

I've got no problem about that.
I am discussing volume with them. I want to see what it takes for us to get a deal.

-Jeff

Are we sure these Kontron controllers are what we are looking for?

I was going to buy one in a heartbeat but after talking to someone over there they said that these controllers are useless without a computer driving them. I cant remember the name of the person, but they said it is mearly an I/O conversion device. I asked about the CRT-LCD7, did someone find another product through the distributer?

Like I said, after seeing the spec sheet I couldnt think of anything but this controller. I guess I need to talk to someone that knows more about the device than that person at Kontron.

No the CRT-LCD7 is a standalone controller card and not a PC controller card.

It will work just like the Winmates. Just don't know if they are as good . But with High End Faroudja Deinterlacing it should be better than the Winmates.

Be patient Dan I am gonna get every last drop of info out of these guys. I may even go down there with my panel so the engineers to play with it.

Look at the inputs you don't need a PC to drive it. That thing takes all sorts of inputs.

Thanks computercowboy, I very eagerly but patiently awaits details. I was a day away from going ahead with purchasing parts for making a projector with the G2A130 or 210, but stopped when I thought of DHCP.

The next day, I saw the Kontron post, and have been following very closely ever since. I even emailed them myself last Thursday, but as of this post have yet to receive a response. I'd phone them, but as you're clearly in a better position being within driving distance and having a panel for them to play with, it seems I might as well leave the big questions (is the sharp panel compatible? any others? out of the box? how much? shipping? to where?) to you.

Thanks again!

Well if it looks good on the Kontron end and people are interested I will set up a group buy. I wouldn't worry about shipping costs to much. It isn't big or heavy or some thing off ebay where they charge some stupid $10 shipping on a $1 item.

I am going to give them another ring right now and see whats going on down there.

-J

Id be interested

http://us.kontron.com/index.php?id=780&...;productid=1525

anyone notice they have .pnl files posted on their site? Are these the files we would need to program our own panels? just added to their site on 11/30.. today. Anyone who knows a little more about this wanna check it out?

A small note about the G2A130.

I had it hooked up to my Xbox 360 with a Vga cable. Before todays "1080p" update I had it set at 1920x1200 and it worked fine. But apparently it was a 1080i signal and not a 1080p signal. Now with the new update it apparently is a 1080p signal.

And guess what? The Winmate G2A130 DOESN'T support it

It only supports 1080p over the DVI connection.

I've added it to the 15.4" Wuxga Fyi thread.

I will as them what those are all about and ho we can get more.

I can confirm that the Digitalview controller SVH-1920 works with the Sharp WUXGA panel

http://www.digitalview.com/controllers/products.php

I am not sure about the issues with DHCP, but there is also an optional HD - SDI interface board that could possibly work with DHCP, or am I talking out of my bum

What cable did you use to connect the Sharp screen to the Lvds output of the controller ?

Hi JJ,

The guy selling me the controller used a cable from the stock he had available at the time that fitted the Sharp panel, he reasured me that he would double check the wiring before powering the lcd panel to avoid destroying my panel!. You will love the next bit, and appreciate the irony, as he dropped my panel and smashed the screen after he tested it!

Luckily I was able to get another Sharp unit on ebay and did not end up having to pay for the Digitalview controller. So all in all the controller plus 1 x new WUXGA panel cost me a total of £380, I think I would have spent a similar amount on the Winmate package and I think that the Digitalview controller has slightly higher specs.

Brad

Cool this board can request IP addresses.

I think you mean HDCP (High Bandwidth Content Protection)
DHCP is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol
DHCP is used by computers to get connection information automatically when plugged into a network

I talked with my guy at All American (Kontron Distributor) and he didn't have any new info yet but said that he would get back to me before the close of business today. I will let you all know what I find out.

Actually, if we're going to get technical, HDCP stands for High-Bandwidth DIGITAL Content Protection.

Indeed your are correct. I am still looking for a controller that can support IP addresses though.

When can get this controller and Lcd kit for $795 shipped :

http://www.lcdsolar.com/product_detail.php..._page=solutions