Because of all the recent interest in making a true 1080p High Defintion Projector some of us thought it would be best to have a thread that contained all the known information about the 15.4" Wuxga Lcd that makes this possible.
The 15.4" Wuxga Lcd is a Laptop Lcd that is capable of 1080p High Definition. The problem is that since it is used in a Laptop Computer we need a way to get a signal from different sources (T.V., Dvd, PC, etc) to be displayed on the Lcd.
A couple of years ago LumenLab Forum Member Minoten decided to undertake this project. He found a controller manufacturer and got the 15.4" Wuxga bios programmed for it and started a Group Buy. Here is his site which has a lot of useful information on it. http://members.cox.net/minoten/index.shtml
So basically we now have a way to input Composite/Svideo/Component/DVI/VGA into the 15.4" WUXGA.
But Minoten stopped doing group buys. So a new contact was needed.
*Option 1*
There is now a new way to get a 15.4" Wuxga Lcd and Controller.
Lumenlab member johnzo1995 sells them. His website is here:
Johnzo1995's Website
The PixelWorks Controller:
It has HDMI, VGA, Component, S-Video, Composite.
It is HDCP enabled
It has 1:1 pixel mapping.
1080p through HDMI/VGA with no overscan/underscan issues at all.
The Mst Controller.
It has HDMI, VGA, 2-YPbPr, S-video, CVBS, 2-Rca, and TV Tuner.
It is HDCP compliant and runs everything perfectly at 1080p.
Johnzo1995 sells this with or without the 15.4" Samsung/Toshiba/LG 15.4" Wuxga screen.
*NOTE* -- This controller does not do 1:1 pixel mapping. All inputs will be stretched to the 15.4" native resolution of 1920x1200.
Johnzo1995 sells this with or without the 15.4" Samsung/Toshiba/LG 15.4" Wuxga screen.
All available 15.4" Wuxga screens will work with this controller.
Contact him for more information
*Option 2*
Dobie Huang
Business Development Manager
AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL SYSTEMS, INC.
1768 McGaw Ave.
Irvine, CA 92614
Tel: 888-485-6688 x460
Direct: 949-681-7460
Cell: 626-203-7977
Fax: 949-251-8697
Email: dhuang@aispro.com
He is our current contact for the G2A controllers for the 15.4" WUXGA.
He sells the G2A221 with component input that will work with Sharp LQ154M1LW12, and Samsung LTM240M2-L02. It costs as of now $412 shipped in the U.S.
http://download.winmate.com.tw/$Produ...0274/G2A221.pdf
Several forum members have used different Lcd's with the G2A controller. The Samsung's , LG/Phillips, and Sharps all are confirmed working. But please keep in mind that the controller manufacturer only guarantees the Sharp Lcd's to work.
Here is the controller user guide :
http://wuxga.benow.ca/Controller%20User%20Guide.pdf
And here is the controller setup guide:
http://wuxga.benow.ca/Controller%20Setup%20Guide%20v1.pdf
What comes with the controller:
CONTROLLER BOARD
- A/D Board
- Inverter Board
- On-Screen-Display Board
- IR Remote Control
- Composite Cable
- S-Video Cable
- VGA Cable
- DVI-D Cable
- Power Adapter with Cables
And the controller specs :
Controller Board
- Features
» Specially programmed BIOS to support 15.4" WUXGA Panel
» Zoom and shrinking scaling
» Programmable gamma correction (CLUT)
» Real Color controls provides RGB compliance
» PWM back light intensity control
» Low EMI and power saving features
» Infrared inputs supporting various remote controls
» 32-bit frame store DDR memory for high-speed image capture and processing
» Horizontal and Vertical flip of display image
» Picture in Picture, Graphics on Video, Video on Graphics, split screen
» High-Quality Video Processing
» High-performance adaptive 4H comb filter for video processing
» Motion Adaptive De-Interlacing (MADI) on a per-pixel basis
» Motion Adaptive Noise Reduction
» Inverse 3:2/2:2 pull down for Film Mode detection
» Low Angle Diagonal Interpolation (LADI)
» Each Input has its own seperate settings saved in the controllers EEPROM. Therefore, the following settings can be different for each input: Brightness, Contrast, Hue , Saturation, Scaling Type, MADI level, noise level and color temperature.
- DVI-D Input
» Single-Link Digital DVI Input
» Up to 1600x1200@ 60Hz (UXGA) and 1920x1200@ 60Hz (WUXGA) reduced blanking
» The DVI port supports both graphics and video signals.
- VGA Input
» D-Sub 15pin
» Supports Sync-on-Green (1080i/1080p,720p,480p,480i through Component-to-VGA cable)
» Supported Graphic Inputs:
» VGA port supports both PC graphics signals and 1080i/1080p//720p video signals.
» OSD adjustments: Auto-Adjust, Phase, Clock, Vertical/Horizontal Position
- S-video & Composite
» NTSC/PAL/SECAM inputs
» Adaptive Deinterlacing, Noise Reduction, Angle Filtering, Film Mode Detect, Sharpness adjustments
» High-performance adaptive 4H comb filter for video processing
- Dual Display
» Picture in Picture & Picture by Picture (Split screen) supporting Graphics on Video, Video on Graphics
» Does NOT support both Composite & S-Video at once
» PiP/PbP Quick Swap
» 3 PiP Sizes (Small,Medium,Large)
» Movable PiP Window, place it anywhere on the screen
- Scaling
» 4 Scaling Options: 1:1, Fill, Aspect, Panoramic
» Ability to Zoom in on a portion of your video/graphic input
» High-quality scaling capability from low-resolution to WUXGA resolution
» Moire cancellation
» Non-linear scaling for aspect ratio conversion of video
- On Screen Display
» Ability to reset to factory default settings
» Control all functions via the included OSD Board or Remote Control
» OSD Settings: Vertical/Horizontal Position, Transparency, Timeout, OSDZoom
» Display Settings: Brightness, Contrast, Hue, Saturation, Flesh Tone, Internal Brightness
» Image Settings: Scaling, Auto-Adjust, Phase, Clock
» Video Image Settings: Adaptive Deinterlacing, Noise Reduction, Angle Filtering, Film Mode Detect, Sharpness
» Position Settings Zoom, Zoom Horizontal, Zoom Vertical, Vertical, Horizontal
» Color Settings: SRGB, Gamma Correction, Color Temperature(Red,Green,Blue)
» PiP Settings: PiP Mode, PiP Size, Vertical, Horizontal
- Real Color Technology
» Digital brightness and contrast controls
» Color controls including hue and saturation controls
» Flesh-tone adjustment
» sRGB compliance allows end-users to experience the same colors as viewed on CRTs and other displays
Contoller Notes
* This controller does not support HDCP. You will have to use a device to disable HDCP called an HDCP Stripper, or the device you are using to display HD must be able to disable HDCP. Many upconverting Dvd Players currently on the market can be HDCP disabled by inputting a code on the remote. Check this site for info on your player : http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks
Where to buy the 15.4" WUXGA Lcd
Currently there aren't a lot of options for the 15.4" Lcd. The best bet seems to be Ebay. They are sold there as Dell Laptop Replacement Screens. There are several different manufacturers and models. They are.
LG Philips LP154WUI, LP154WU1 (A1),LP154WU1 (A01), LP154WU1
Samsung LTN154U1, LTN154U1-L01, LTN154U1-L03, LTN154WU
Sharp LQ154M1LW12, LQ154M1LW02, LQ154M1LW01 ES2, LQ154M1LW01, LQ154M1LW2A, LQ0DZA0043, LQ0DAS6102
Toshiba Matsushita LTD154EZ0S, LTD154EZ0L, LTD154EZ0D, LTD154EZ0C
Now according to several Lcd vendors ALL of these Lcd's are compatible with each other and they should ALL work with the G2A controller. Several forum members have in fact used different Lcd's with the G2A controller. The Samsung's , LG/Phillips, and Sharps all are confirmed working. But please keep in mind that the controller manufacturer only guarantees the Sharp Lcd's to work.
The replacement Lcd's on Ebay sell for $200-375 depending on condition and vendor.
Lcd Dimensions here:
http://members.cox.net/minoten/SPWG.JPG
LG Phillips
- Model: LP154WU1
- Response Time: 16ms
- Contrast Ratio: 600:1
- Color: 256k (16.2mil w/ dithering)
- Screen Size Ratio: 16:10
- Resolution: 1920x1200
- Brightness(cd/m²) 185
Sharp
- Model: LQ154M1LW02
- Response Time: 25ms
- Contrast Ratio: 400:1
- Color: 256k (16.2mil w/ dithering)
- Screen Size Ratio: 16:10
- Resolution: 1920x1200
Samsung:
Model: LTN154U1
SIZE 15.4"
RESOLUTION WUXGA
NUMBER OF PIXELS 1,920 x 1,200
ACTIVE AREA(mm²) 331.2 x 207.0
PIXEL PITCH(mm) 0.173
NUMBER OF COLORS 262K
Color Gamut(%) 45
CONTRAST RATIO 300:1
BRIGHTNESS(cd/m²) 175
RESPONSE TIME(ms ) 25
Toshiba
LTD154EZ0S
- Model: LTD154EZ0S
- Response Time: 35ms
- Contrast Ratio: 350:1
- Color: 256k (16.2mil w/ dithering)
- Screen Size Ratio: 16:10
- Resolution: 1920x1200
- Brightness(cd/m²) 190
* Due to popular request here are pics of the LVDS connector for the Lcd :
Projector Information
Now for a few tips on using this in a projector.
1. You can use the 15.4" WUXGA with the standard LL triplet but you will need larger fresnels because the standard LL fresnels won't cover the entire Lcd.
www.3dlens.com/shop sells the larger sizes. The model # is A395a and A395b. They cost $28 each + shipping.
2.You can also use the Po lens kit from LL with the 15.4" WUXGA. And you an use an 18" Beseler Triplet wth the Pro Fresnels from LL. The 18" Beseler triplet can be bought from Ebay.
ANTIGLARE
The 15.4" WUXGA is a wonderful Lcd by itself but much can be done to improve it in our projectors. After stripping the Lcd you will noice that it has Antiglare on the front side and mirror like antireflective material on the back side. Both can be removed to improve brightness, color, and contrast.
PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK. The WUXGA is VERY fragile. In fact I think it is one of the most fragile Lcd's currently on the market. So take your time and be very careful. And this is only for those who have read the Antiglare removal threads and understand what they are doing. This is not for beginners.
The antireflective material will hurt your brightness the most and can be removed easier so I'll tackle it first.
There are 2 different types. One will peel off easily with no water soaking. The other requires 2 different water soaks.
To test use a razor to pull up the edge of the antireflective material. It is thin and not stiff. So if you are pulling up a stiff material STOP it is the polarizer and we need that to stay put. Once you have an edge up carefully applying even pressure try to peel it off. If you can't it needs to be water soaked. Using the normal water soak methods , water soak for around 3-4 hours. It will come up in 2 layers. The first layer after the first water soak, the second after a second water soak of 3-4 hours. Then you can clean off any excess glue with a wet paper towel. Make sure you let the panel dry before testing it.
The antiglare layer is a hard antiglare but there seems to be a new, better way to get it off. You use the water soak method but you use 1/3 Acetone and 2/3 warm water. Acetone can be found at your local WalMart/Lowes/Home Depot in the paint section.
Water soak using the normal methods but with the Acetone/warm water mixture. Soak times will vary but check every couple of hours starting at the 4 hour mark to see if the edge will start to come up. When it does, peel off the antiglare in one smooth motion. Do not stop and start as this will leave lines that can not be removed. Clean any remaining glue with a wet paper towell. Let the Lcd dry bfore testing.
Here is a thread on the WUXGA antiglare removal attempts of several members with some good pic.
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9027
Budget High Definition 15.4" Lcd
What about those that can't afford a 1080p WUXGA Projector?
Well here is another option for you that utilizes another 15.4" Lcd. These are 1280x800 resolution 15.4" Monitors for your desktop. They are made by Synaps , Soyo, X2GEN, Proview, and maybe some others.
All of these will dislay 720p High Definition with just small amount of stretching. And all of these can be found online for around $99.
You can use the these 15.4" Monitors with the standard LL triplet but you will need larger fresnels because the standard LL fresnels won't cover the entire Lcd.
www.3dlens.com/shop sells the larger sizes. The model # is A395a and A395b. They cost $28 each + shipping.
You can also use the Po lens kit from LL with these 15.4" monitors. And you an use an 18" Beseler Triplet wth the Pro Fresnels from LL. The 18" Beseler triplet can be bought from Ebay.
Notes :
X2Gen:
1.Needs a 20 pin .5mm extension for the FFC.
2.There is no atiglare to worry about.
Synaps :
1. Looks like an 18 pin extension is needed for the FFC.
2. AG strips off with a 3-4 hour soak.
3. Members Plogs who have used the Synaps.
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14269
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=178266
Norwood Micro:
1.No ffc issues
2.No antilare ?
3.Members plogs who have use it.
Davide-nyc
Viewscape
1. No ffc issues
2.Antiglare
Specs are as follows:
Viewscape 15.4"
Diagonal Size: 15.4" - widescreen
Response Time: 28 ms
Dot Pitch / Pixel Pitch: 0.258 mm
Max Resolution: 1280 x 800
Color Support: 18-bit color
Image Contrast Ratio: 600:1
Image Brightness: 200 cd/m2
Image Aspect Ratio: 16:10
Image Max H-View Angle: 130
Image Max V-View Angle: 100
X2GEN MW15A :
Specification:
LCD Panel Size: 15.4"
Pixel Pitch: 0.297 x 0.297 mm
Maximum Resolution: WXGA 1280 x 800
Number of Colors: 16.7 M
Contrast Ratio: 600:1
Brightness: 220 cd/m2
View Angle 130° Horizontal / 100° Vertical
Input Video Compatibility Analog (D-Sub)
Response Time: 8 ms
Soyo DYLM1596 :
Specification:
Display Area: 15.4"
Optimum Resolution: 1280 x 800 @ 75Hz
Contrast Ratio: 600:1
Light Source: 50,000 hours (typ)
Brightness: 220 nits (typ)
Display Colors: 16.7 million
Pixel Pitch: 0.264mm
Connectors: Analog: 15-pin mini D-sub (Analog)
Synaps 15.4":
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Contrast Ratio: 400:1
Brightness: 220 cd/m2
Pixel Pitch: 0.2588
Response Time: 15ms
Resolution: 1280 x 720
Color Support: 16.7m
Viewing Angles: 140deg/120deg
Interfaces: D-SUB
ProView PL576Ws :
Diagonal Screen Size 15.4″
Maximum Resolution 1280 x 800
Image Max H-View Angle 140°
Image Max V-View Angle 120°
Image Contrast Ratio 400:1
Image Brightness 250 cd/m2 (typ)
Ports/Connectors 15 pin mini D-sub, separate Sync, TTL Compatible,
Norwood Micro 15.4"
Diagonal Screen Size 15.4″
Native Resolution 1280 x 800
Image Contrast Ratio 400:1
Response Time : 25ms
I will be adding more to this as I can.
Hope this helps some fellow members.
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