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blake
ANOTHER LCD I got won't work, this is my FIFTH one. This is such BULLSHIT. I was as careful as I could possibly be. I know for a fact I did everything the way you're suppose to. And no nothing is wrong with my wiring. I used the compatible (NO FFC issues) 15" magnavox LCDTV. This makes no sense!!!!!!! Why the f**k does this sh*t keep happening to me?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :angry: sad.gif sad.gif
Mordeth
Don't guess it could be static discharge? heh, no one ever said I was smart =P
weldonjb
Blake, do you have a control test setup? I know when I had my monitor pre-stripped, I made sure that I got a good image from another computer. Then, after I pulled the guts out, I retested the guts attaching them in the same manner before I even approached the AG-strip step or putting it in a frame for the PJ.

Did any of them work prior to the more advanced steps?

I know how frustrated you must be. Hang in there, guy.
samuraijack
QUOTE (weldonjb @ Oct 18 2006, 10:50 AM) *
Blake, do you have a control test setup? I know when I had my monitor pre-stripped, I made sure that I got a good image from another computer. Then, after I pulled the guts out, I retested the guts attaching them in the same manner before I even approached the AG-strip step or putting it in a frame for the PJ.

Did any of them work prior to the more advanced steps?

I know how frustrated you must be. Hang in there, guy.


Dont give up hope! First thing is to verfiy your signal source. Make sure that you are actually getting signal. I had a friend who returned three monitors because he could not get any signal to his DVI. Turns out he forgot to turn it on...whoops!
Not saying you are stoopid, but its usually a very small thing. Do you have a friend who can come over and have a look? I always say an extra set of eyes is crucial to problem solving.

Other things to check for:
Small bridges between boards.
Loose cable connections.
Grounding.
Try plugging the backlight in again.
Test it on a different circuit with no company.

Do you see ANY indication it is getting power?
Does it have a power brick? Is the light on?
Get a multimeter and check the input plug. Got juice?
With the monitor ON, check the leads to the backlight. Juice?
With monitor and signal on, try switching between the vid inputs on the control panel. Make sure your monitor signal is around 60hz in case the panel is having trouble adapting.

Trust me, its something small and its right there just dont give in to frustration. Get cold and methodical. Use your frustration to strengthen your resolve, have an aspirin, then start slowly and see what comes up. I bet you find it soon.

SJ
samuraijack
Blake?
Any word yet? Miracles? Revelations?
MINOUS
QUOTE (samuraijack @ Oct 19 2006, 12:30 PM) *
Blake?
Any word yet? Miracles? Revelations?


Let's not forget maniacal acts of total destruction with a ball peen hammer! unsure.gif

Keep the faith...you'll get it!
NiKTrash
Whoa... Respect that u keep going ! Hope u get it fixed soon! Thumbs up.
blake
QUOTE (samuraijack @ Oct 19 2006, 09:30 AM) *
Blake?
Any word yet? Miracles? Revelations?


Nope, still nothin. sad.gif This doesn't even make sense why it won't work.
blake
oops
samuraijack
QUOTE (blake @ Oct 20 2006, 07:45 AM) *
Hah, I actually was able to put all back together nicely. Gonna exchange it tomorrow, can't wait. biggrin.gif


Try testing it now...

I cant condone what you are thinking of doing...That is not the way we do things around here.
blake
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samuraijack
QUOTE (blake @ Oct 20 2006, 09:04 AM) *
Yeah, I know people don't condone it, sorry. But to be honest, after 5 god damn LCDs I don't even care. I think Home Depot can afford it more then I can. Besides, I work there, and they treat us like shit, so...


Sounds like a rationalization for "questionable behavior" to me... You sure you dont want to reconsider this move?
blake
You know what, what I said was true, but nevermind. You're right, I'm not gonna take it back, I was just upset. Don't get me wrong. smile.gif
samuraijack
QUOTE (blake @ Oct 20 2006, 09:09 AM) *
I've spent over $600 on just LCDs, no offense really, but I'm tired of people being too "PC". Again, no offense.


okay. I will state one more thing and then leave you to your conscience...

You have shown yourself to be enthusiastic, smart and willing to keep at a project when the chips were down. Now your frustration with the project is causing you to loose your sense of honor. I will admit that it is tempting to just say screw it, but if you do get this project completed, there will always be the taint of your actions associated with it.

Beside, if you dont respect yourself enought to act with honor, other people will see no reason to respect you.

Okay. Thats my "Dad" talk. wink.gif
Youre a smart young man. You will figure this one out.

SJ
blake
QUOTE (samuraijack @ Oct 20 2006, 06:13 AM) *
okay. I will state one more thing and then leave you to your conscience...

You have shown yourself to be enthusiastic, smart and willing to keep at a project when the chips were down. Now your frustration with the project is causing you to loose your sense of honor. I will admit that it is tempting to just say screw it, but if you do get this project completed, there will always be the taint of your actions associated with it.

Beside, if you dont respect yourself enought to act with honor, other people will see no reason to respect you.

Okay. Thats my "Dad" talk. wink.gif
Youre a smart young man. You will figure this one out.

SJ


Personally, when it comes to gigantic corporations, it's not about "honor". Corporations steal from people all the time. But as you can see in my revised post I did change my mind. Their actions don't justify doing the same.

Also, don't take this thread too seriously, as you can imagine spending over $600 on just LCDs is EXTREMELY frustrating.
samuraijack
QUOTE (blake @ Oct 20 2006, 09:16 AM) *
Personally, when it comes to gigantic corporations, it's not about "honor". Corporations steal from people all the time. But as you can see in my revised post I did change my mind. Their actions don't justify doing the same.

Also, don't take this thread too seriously, as you can imagine spending over $600 on just LCDs is EXTREMELY frustrating.


I'm proud of you, man! biggrin.gif
Now check the LCD and see if it doesnt come on. If you still want to go after this one. We can work from the steps and see whats up. I would even be willing to have you ship me the panel so I can have a look at it. If you are willing...

SamuraiJack
weldonjb
I would agree with SJ. There is nothing more valuable than your own inner honor, whether its recognized by others or whether you are treated honorably.

That said, it is way too unreal (for anyone but Votey! hehe) that you would have 5 non-working LCD's. That's good new, because that means it is probably something in your process, and therefore in your control to change!

If it worked in the frame, and then was taken apart and does not work, then of course something happened in between. If you put it back together and it works, that is a good thing! That means there is something that gets disconnected in the tear down that is necessary. Many times it is the grounding from one board or component to some other part that was being accomplished by what might have looked just like a metal support. Or, the circuit in that panel is looking for the backlight to function before it kicks in the panel. Something along those lines.

It's a puzzle to solve, which actually can be fun if you let it.

Of course, if it wasn't checked to be working correctly before stripping, or if it won't function after being put back together, that is where the uncertainty and frustration can peak.
Durachko
Wise choice blake. post-418-1138467278.gif You almost crossed over to the dark side. ph34r.gif
Votey
QUOTE (weldonjb @ Oct 20 2006, 08:36 AM) *
I would agree with SJ. There is nothing more valuable than your own inner honor, whether its recognized by others or whether you are treated honorably.

That said, it is way too unreal (for anyone but Votey! hehe) that you would have 5 non-working LCD's.


Teehee. I've actually started expecting stuff like that to happen to me. It's kind of "my thing."

Anyway, good call, Blake. Keep at it, I know there are others here who have ruined a few panels on their way to success, and in the end they consider it all worth it.
tameone
blake got Voteyed sad.gif
Kryptonian
Blake is there any electromagnetic interferance near where you are putting up a projector? huh.gif

Is sounds to me that there is a chance of the LCD dying during transportation from the store.

Are you driving near or in any electromagnetic waves -ride way too bumpy? They might have died from

static discharge if your chair is plastic that you sit on to strip the moniter. Plastic chairs give off tons of

static. There was a guy who had done many illegal activites and he downlaoded many illegal programs onto

his computer. So, this guy put a giant Electromagnet above his door so that the computer would be fried if

his computer ever moved past his door. Turns out that an agency raided his house captured his hardrive

and later could not get it to boot. ph34r.gif

I don't know what the problem is with the LCDs, but I know that you are most likey doing everything right

with the process by now. smile.gif
Forrest Schultz
Blake, just take it back for a new one like you were thinking. after all you went through, i beleive you deserve that chance. Just because some people can afford mistakes and mistakes on pricey items, doesnt mean you and i can do the same. If you want to return it do it, dont let others change your ideas. What Would Robin Hood Do.
Kryptonian
QUOTE (Forrest Schultz @ Oct 20 2006, 06:38 PM) *
Blake, just take it back for a new one like you were thinking. after all you went through, i beleive you deserve that chance. Just because some people can afford mistakes and mistakes on pricey items, doesnt mean you and i can do the same. If you want to return it do it, dont let others change your ideas. What Would Robin Hood Do.



I would think that he would return it only if there was a defect in it-otherwise it would be taking money from

the story which would be stealing. If stealing is acceptable, then where is the point that one draws the line,

wouldn't killing then be acceptable also, if one determines his own moral code? that is

the basis of anarchy and whatever is convient for one at that time is acceptible. It would seem that one's

life is based on nothing more than doing whatever one wants. One then has no integrity of

character and cannot be trusted. Becuase one's ethics are comprised of one's convience.

Sorry for the meta-ethical sermon, But no one ever takes the time to think about who determines their

ethics. sad.gif

I know Blake will do what is right. smile.gif
blake
Thanks for all the awesome support guys, this is truly the best DIY community out there. I know I'll get it up and running VERY soon. biggrin.gif
OKflyboy
QUOTE (Forrest Schultz @ Oct 20 2006, 06:38 PM) *
Blake, just take it back for a new one like you were thinking. after all you went through, i beleive you deserve that chance. Just because some people can afford mistakes and mistakes on pricey items, doesnt mean you and i can do the same. If you want to return it do it, dont let others change your ideas. What Would Robin Hood Do.



"Robin Hood [is] immortalized as an ideal of righteousness. It is said that he fought against the looting rulers and returned the loot to those who had been robbed, but that is not the meaning of the legend which has survived. He is remembered, not as a champion of property, but as a champion of need, not as a defender of the robbed, but as a provider of the poor. He is held to be the first man who assumed a halo of virtue by practicing charity with wealth which he did not own, by giving away goods which he had not produced, by making others pay for the luxury of his pity. He is the man who became the symbol of the idea that need, not achievement, is the source of rights, that we don’t have to produce, only to want, that the earned does not belong to us, but the unearned does. He became a justification for every mediocrity who, unable to make his own living, has demanded the power to dispose of the property of his betters, by proclaiming his willingness to devote his life to his inferiors at the price of robbing his superiors. It is this foulest of creatures - the double-parasite who lives on the sores of the poor and the blood of the rich - whom men have come to regard as a moral ideal. And this has brought us to a world where the more a man produces, the closer he comes to the loss of all his rights, until, if his ability is great enough, he becomes a rightless creature delivered as prey to any claimant - while in order to be placed above rights, above principles, above morality, placed where anything is permitted to him, even plunder and murder, all a man has to do is to be in need.

( excerpt from Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged” )

In other words, just because you need it, and some rich guy at the head of Home Depot screws other people all the time and can afford it, doesn't mean its the right thing for you to do.

I knew you'd do the right thing, Blake. post-418-1138467278.gif
SIMUL8R
QUOTE (blake @ Oct 21 2006, 01:12 AM) *
Thanks for all the awesome support guys, this is truly the best DIY community out there. I know I'll get it up and running VERY soon. biggrin.gif

Dam skippy we are there for you Blake. Just remember your not alone when it comes to road blocks in our quest for a proudly owned DIY pj. Many of us contributed our own sacrifices alone just to improve on building and not mentioning the other losses we've experienced when building our actual pj's. The best we can do is relay that experience to others and hopefully they too will have a easier time in their builds. Seeing that you have multimonitor experience under your belt I'd say use it for the next newcomer when he/she has any questions on a strip.

Keep the faith Blake!
Mavrick
Whoa, when did all this happen Blake?!?

That last I saw in your PLOG...

You got your 15" Westinghouse LCD in your PJ and had it running. All you had left was some tweaking. What happened?
blake
QUOTE (Mavrick @ Oct 21 2006, 05:30 PM) *
Whoa, when did all this happen Blake?!?

That last I saw in your PLOG...

You got your 15" Westinghouse LCD in your PJ and had it running. All you had left was some tweaking. What happened?


Well I took out the Westinghouse to clean off the glue from the AG left over. And while I was cleaning it I accidentally cracked it. Before the Westinghouse I had already broken one before. After the Westinghouse broke, I bought a CTL from Fred Meyer, it broke, bought another LCD from Staples, it broke, bought ANOTHER one from Home Depot, and it broke. I guess you could say I have worse luck then anyone on here with LCDs. tongue.gif However I just received a Gateway LCD from a guy on here that gave it to me for a SUPER cheap price, so I went out and just bought another one as well. It's gonna work this time. smile.gif

(and thanks to all the guys with the great feedback and support smile.gif )
Mavrick
WOW! Sorry to hear that Blake.

I did the AG strip on my LCD and had some glue residue left as well. However, I couldn’t see it in the projected image. So I decided to just leave it alone...

Good luck on your next one, I hope to see some screen shots in your PLOG soon! wink.gif I have to say I admire your persistence. I have seen far too many people give up after only one LCD goes south on them.
blake
Greetings all! biggrin.gif I'm coming to you from my PC hooked up to my projector at 80 inches. biggrin.gif:D This kicks SO much ass, FINALLY got it working. Absolutely 1000% worth it. smile.gif

And thanks Mav.
hendo*AU*
And the crowd goes wild caaaaashhhhhehhhaaassshhhsh laugh.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif

/runs around room in histarics,... trips and falls through 2nd story window....

Congrats i've been watching you over the past few days..... im verly very sneaky ninja.gif laugh.gif
mikyd1954
now remember blake....DON'T TOUCH IT AGAIN FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER!!!!! well, at least for a few weeks anyway smile.gif great to hear you are finally up and running...
SIMUL8R
QUOTE (blake @ Oct 22 2006, 04:15 AM) *
Greetings all! biggrin.gif I'm coming to you from my PC hooked up to my projector at 80 inches. biggrin.gif:D This kicks SO much ass, FINALLY got it working. Absolutely 1000% worth it. smile.gif

And thanks Mav.

B, what was the problem and what did you do to get it going?

And good job bud!
TESCORP
After all that, I too was going to offer my services to strip and install the LCD. I am so glad you persisted and did indeed achive victory over the LCD's!
tgreenwood
I'm proud of you, Blake.

Tawny
samuraijack
QUOTE (tgreenwood @ Oct 22 2006, 07:14 PM) *
I'm proud of you, Blake.

Tawny


Me too!
Congratulations! Now you can boast about your size with a clear conscience!

Remember my young friend, you make your own luck and supply your own Kharma...wink.gif

Sceenies!
blake
You guys are all too awesome, thanks again. biggrin.gif I'll get some screens up soon.
weldonjb
WTG Blake! We knew you could do it.
blake
QUOTE (weldonjb @ Oct 22 2006, 11:10 PM) *
WTG Blake! We knew you could do it.


Thanks man, but it looks like I've run into MORE problems. Games are basically unplayable with the X2VGA2, wonderful.
Maviryk
What do you mean? I thought that was a good component to vga adaptor for the xbox?
tameone
QUOTE (blake @ Oct 23 2006, 03:28 AM) *
Thanks man, but it looks like I've run into MORE problems. Games are basically unplayable with the X2VGA2, wonderful.



You got Munsoned.. thats worse than being Voteyed sad.gif
Rizzo_Bah
QUOTE (blake @ Oct 23 2006, 03:28 AM) *
Thanks man, but it looks like I've run into MORE problems. Games are basically unplayable with the X2VGA2, wonderful.


I was looking forward to buying one of these. unsure.gif Please explain what problems you encountered, and what systems you tried it with.
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