Which ballast do I use with this?

From the thread I take it will use any 150w coil&core ballsat with an igniter. Is this true?

What is the ballast code? Like for the 400w the m59 ballast is used.

This is what I have so far concerning the 150w Ceramic arc MH:

Light Engine

Bulb: CDM 150/TD/942
Base: Rx7s
Ballast: M142 ballast. (Thanks to tameone)

Bulb Dealers:
www.bulbconnection.com
Bulb $48.75

www.productionadvantageonline.com
Bulb $61.80

www.lightbulbemporium.com
Bulb $63.00

www.sunshinelighting.com
Bulb emailed

www.bulbworks.com (no minimun order, not in stock)
Philips Brand CDM 150/TD/942 $31.50 each (2-3 days lead time)
Ushio Brand CMD-150TD941RX7S $40.60 each (4-5 days lead time)

Base Dealers:
www.bulbworks.com
Base S26 $14.75 ea
Base S26a $14.75 ea

www.galesburgelectric.com
Base $13.48

Ballast Dealers
www.dyna-brite.com
Ballast $52.00
Igniter $11.90

I have some experience with buying CDM150's...

BulbConnection.com has incredible customer service. I just had a hard time getting non-broken bulbs from them via UPS.

I got one from SaveOnLighting.com. It was too expensive, but I was getting impatient, and at least it arrived in one piece.

I just ordered that bulb from ProductionAdvantage last week, and they only charged me $44.95 + $5-10 shipping. They did say they had a few days lead time on that bulb, though. Still waiting for them to ship it to me.

Yes, you want an ignitor on your ballast.

I got a ballast from ProLighting.com. It was about $72.00 shipped, I bet you could find one cheaper. I can verify that it works with the CDM150/TD/942, I just fired it up a couple days ago and ran it for about 5.5 hours.

I guess what I was asking is, will any standard 150w MH ballast work, as long as you have an igniter?

If you search eBay there are some 150w ballast for $15-$29, not including shipping, but in some cases there are more than one ballast.

I have priced a few 150w MH ballast and igniters, and they are pretty cheap. Plus I found the bulb for $31 at bulbworks.com.

I won;t be purchasing till next month, but I am getting my ducks in a row now.

the CDM 150/TD/942 Lamp is an ANSI M142 bulb and requires an M142 ballast. you can find this information on the philips website here http://www.nam.lighting.philips.com/us/eca...724d86c79e759c4

the ballast here http://www.prolighting.com/15mehabakitq1.html will work because it is a 150w M142 ballast.

Thank you. I am still working on how to identify bulbs and ballast and base sockets.

Ok, I have been on the phone with bulbworks, and they have some pretty good prices and are very helpful. I got all the information on the bulb and base, the rep I am working with is looking for a ballast for me now.

If anyone is interested in the 150w Ceramic Arc MH, I would suggested looking at www.bulbworks.com, as they have the best price on the bulb that I can tell.

I will update when I have a ballast price from them.

I did look up the spec sheet for the Howard M0150-71C-511 ballast listed on the bulbworks website... it is not listed as anything but M102. Some of the others look good, but the prices are around $200, which is way too much... I think prolighting.com has the Sola ballast M81/M142/M102 rated for around $65. (edit, yes this is the ballast listed above by tameone)

cheers,
gs

The rep I spoke with said they did not have the ballast in inventory, but would find one and let me know the price. He is also checking for an eballast that works with the m142 ASCI code lamps. I don;t know if they exists, but I figured if he was doing the leg work, why not ask.

Hey, i have a HPS 400w ballast and was wondering if this ballast would work with the cdm rx7 bulbs/socket...

Also i have a 330mm rear fresnel, anyone know what type of precond would i use with that setup?

Thanks guys

I found a couple e-ballasts for the CDM type bulbs.

http://www.atlaslightingsupply.com/elecMHBallast.html ... $129.99

look for the M142/M102/M81 compatible e-ballasts

http://pewa.panasonic.com/lcd/products/mh_pdf/lcd_pdf12.pdf

http://pewa.panasonic.com/lcd/products/mh_pdf/150w.pdf

One with dimming control ... possibillity to dynamically increase effective contrast ????

http://www.advancetransformer.com/uploads/...Dimming_web.pdf

another one ...

http://www.vossloh-schwabe.com/usa/pdf/Slim_150W.pdf


Not 100% sure they will work !

Hope this helps...

Still looking for a good ballast for the CDM 150/TD/942 myself

Elken stated that these bulbs like 96-100V @ 1.8-2A and I am not sure what these ballasts will ensure this operational standards but I assume if they are M142/M102 compatible they should, shouldn't they??


Also curious whether a pro lens kit will work with this light and a 17" monitor and no precon...
any idea's ???

I've got the bulb and the Ushio C-8 bases. I'm thinking of buying the ballast listed with BallastWise.com. See link: http://www.ballastwise.com/item.asp?PID=12...=17&level=1

It appears to be at the correct amperage and voltage to the lamp (108v). It's not expensive and costs little to ship. They expect a shipment of these electronic ballasts soon.

From Elken's posts, it should work with the ProKit. I'm using it on my 15.4" WUXGA and converting it to an inverted vertical banking on lower temps from the ceramic bulb. Will it work with a 17"? In this hobby, only one way to tell.

Good luck!

an electronic ballast for 49$??? did you talk to them? did they say if it was m102/142 compatible(although I think the point of the electronic ballasts is that they work for any 150(or whatever) watt bulb) and this does say its an MH ballast .... their 400w ballast is only 99 which is the price for the old LL e-ballast so I guess it could be a great find....did they say how long it might be before they were on?

Did talk to them. They weren't sure about compatability and I gave them the ANSI code and bulb number for them to check. They said shipment would arrive in 1-2 weeks.

So have you got any more information regarding compatibility with the 150w ceramic bulbs?

Nada. Zilch. Got tired of calling. Ballast is from China. I'm calling Vue Technologies out of Slidell, LA to see if their 150/175W e-ballast will fire the lamp. (Same manuf used for the LL 400W E ballast) BTW, I'm using the Ushio C-8 bases; about $5 ea. side.

Just got a response back from ballastwise:

Hi, Luckybob, if your bulb is a really 150w MH bulbs with 120V input, DP150HID1 would be no any problem operate it.
I still try find out the information about CDM 150/TD/942 MH Ceramic Arc Bulbs.
Sorry late reply your question.
Thanks & Best Regards,
Simon Lee
BallastWise Operation Team

I will wait for a reply....

Hmmm... Elken states over and over in that thread that he uses a ballast delivering 1.82 amp. The .pdf on the ballast from BallastWise states 1.48 amps. Wonder if that's a problem.

Moreover, there's no mention of a thermal cutoff, which ozstang asserts is necessary here. Something else to check, I guess...

Just a heads up: http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16468
(I went ahead and bought one despite the amp issue. An Advance tech assured me this ballast would run any m142 bulb).

Are there any updates to this? I would really like to pick up my light source soon and I am confused about exactly what to pick up and from where.

I have my hope set on a ceramic 150 HQI (that means double ended right?) with a cheap E-ballast (this needs no ignitor, right?) I just got back from Ikea with my bright shiny soup ladle waiting for some light to reflect.

Thanks for any help.

One update is Don't buy a 150w from ballastwise and try to run a ceramic mh 150 lamp. It will flicker. I am presently trying to return it because they assured me that it would run any 150 mh lamp. As such it has been 2 weeks and I have had no call back for the RMA.

Has anyone tried the electronic balast from Atlas Lighting?
It's listed as M81, M102, & M142 for $130

http://www.atlaslightingsupply.com/elecMHBallast.html

Does anyone know if you can use a 175W M57 electronic ballast with the Philips CDM 150/TD/942? I am not very knowledgable about HID ballasts--is it OK to use one with a higher wattage rating? Or are they very specifically designed for a certain wattage?

For the Philips CDM-TD 150w/942 bulb, this is the email I got back, for which ballast to get.

"Philips Lighting answer:
Thank you for contacting us. This lamp will operate on a M102, m142 or m81 ballast. Please contact our ballat division to discuss which one is recommended on the other."

So, i'll be using one of these. Electric Ballast Magnetic Ballast leaning towards the magnetic one.

I'm being told, several places, that only M142's will work 'properly'.
Yes...these lamps can be over-driven up to at-least 250 (but I've not found 175-or-higher in a M142...).

I'm not sure how I found this site, but I amazingly have done or am looking at all of these same things...

I have 2 150w ballasts, one from hello lights by Aromat (panasonic/Matsushita) which has now blown up 2, count them 2 ceramique Ushio 4200k bulbs... I thought the first was a dud, and was running the 4200k on my eballast (dextin lighting) and it worked ok, but has been flickering terribly. Regular non-quartz/ceramic bulbs seem to work fine. The aromat ballast "ARO" is technically a 175w ballast, but is reccomended to run 150w HQI bulbs.

My experience with Dextin lighting, i.e. ballastwise.com was horrible. After a month of not recieving my ballast, and 3 emails I called, and the guy said it said it had already shipped, but wasn't shipped? So I asked him to get it shipped out asap, he said he couldn't I'd have to fax them something... So that was it after about 5 interactions with no response by email, and a deflection by phone, I called my bank and cancelled their charge (which was made immediately may I add), and then proceded to email everyone I could at their company stating I was disputing their charge. I got a telephone apology and shipped it out, a week later I recieved it... Now the quality of the ballast is pretty shoddy, potted, and the thing gets too hot to touch. Does NOT like ceramic bulbs, flickers terribly... I'll never shop with them again, I don't care how cheap it is.

Did anyone find an M142 ballast?

Two that I can think of:

This one from 1000 Bulbs

This one from prolighting , which does not have the M142 rating (which I believe is only different from the M102 rating in that is provides thermal protection), but I have one that worked for me without a problem in the three weeks or so that I used it. I should mention that I was using a philips 150W CDM-T6 lamp with this ballast.

cheers,
gs

Those are same-Sola's, and both have triple-'rating', including for M142...(and identical capacitors/igniters).

Pro lighting no longer sells the Sola (they used to)... the one they sell now is a Keystone ballast (they do mention this on the website now, but the spec sheet link still goes to the sola website for some reason... never updated I think...). According to keystone's website the ballast is M102 rated... no mention of M142, but it does work.

cheers,
gs

Oh...interesting. And I see they've not improved-spec, or lowered the 62. price...
1000bulbs is 'best deal' on a known-to-work MBall, then.
As for EBall, I heard that a 175w CoralVue(?) is working well for someone (and this 150-175w EBall outputs about the current that a 150w-MBall does -- which is 'good', since an overdrive on these ceramics is not likely a 'wise choice').
Too-many have recommended against EBall's for me to risk it...but if any here have/know-of good-results, please post for others...

I think you can check out mikyd1954 PLOG (or a recent post from him)... he's using an electronic ballast and a magnetic ballast and stated he didn't see much difference... I don't think he measured with a lux meter though...

yeah, I posted a couple of pages back I think about the electronic ballast I'm testing..both seemed about the same...as soon as I get my actual pj done(this next weekend I think)(no, really I mean that I'll set up my new testing setup(15" lcd, and then start to work on dual lamp setups) I'll measure to see if there is any diff in the output..to the eye there was none, brightness or colorwise

I would like to try the cdm150 but don't want to purchase another ballast. By using a smaller capacitor could the 400w M59 MH Ballast be used to power this bulb?

If so, what capacitor would I use and where could I buy it?

I checked into 'taming' a 250w-MBall...but gave up after some 'AV-input'.
BTW, I'm pretty-sure that for the CDM's, an ignitor would also be needed...