I've recently been involved with a car enthusiast group(contour.org), and put an audio system in my car. As I started learning more about car audio, I was looking at these guys recommendations for good wiring (ex: monster cable, scosche, etc.) almost unanimously, they mentioned a place called KNU Konceptz. I purchased all of my car and home audio wire/cables there, and these guys are top notch on the cheap. If you're interested, the url is http://www.knukonceptz.com

Working on my plog for a 450w 17" vertical pj/ht setup--will be up soon. Oh yes, the living room jumbotron will be a reality!

expensive

Think I will just stick with MonoPrice or Parts Express...

DVI Male Digital/DVI Male Digital Dual Link (24AWG) Cable - 25FT (Gold Plated/Black)

Monoprice: 30.37

Knuconcepts: ( only 5 meters) 75.00

HDMI Female to DVI Male Adapter

Knuconcepts: 7.99

Monoprice: 4.97

Wow, you aren't kidding! Thanks for the heads up!

I bought some car stereo amp wiring stuff from them a few years ago. The quality did seem to be top knotch at the very least. The wires are in their 2nd or 3rd car...

I did look at monoprice, and it looks like they don't compare to the quality of knu konceptz. Knu's stuff makes monster cable look like crap.

I'll let you borrow my $50k worth of audio and video diagnostic equipment so you can measure the differences between picture and sound quality from monoprice and knu conceptz wires. Oh wait.. I don't have 50k worth of equipment because that would almost be a bigger waste than expensive wires.. almost

If you really are into home theatre design, you'd know that speaker cables make all the difference in the world if you have good audio equipment. It is also very easy to hear that difference. It is good to see that you're above flaming though.

then you must be comparing to some really crappy wire with resistance equal to that of wood

That's my cue to be done with this thread. If you can't keep it respectful, don't post. I've worked in car and home audio installs for years, but I guess you know more than me. I concede all mighty audio genius.

Nothing about my posts was disrespectful. all inexpensive wire is not created the same so its very pertinent. What matters most with speaker wires is resistance and for the most part copper is copper. low oxygen does nothing inherent to improve transmission. The process of removing oxygen also removes iron impurities which can raise the resistance of the wire. I will bet you cannot hear any difference in quality whatsoever if the speaker wire used has less resistance than say 5% of the speaker impedance. keep in mind the impedance of speakers often changes at different frequencies and speakers with fluctuating impedance will be less tolerant to wire with higher resistance.

so as I said before, if you're using crappy wire you can probably hear a difference, but there is very low cost wire available that will easily compete with very expensive wire.

I used to be one of those Monster Cable guys. I would have sworn that running my speakers over 2-gauge copper (Without any of that damned oxygen!) would make everything sound significantly more "good".

In a stop-gap measure until I could order some Monster Speaker cables, I grabbed some Radio Shack 28-gauge, super unshielded (Heck, they probably inject those things with oxygen AND suck all the nitrogen [magic] out). I had been running those for 3 years before I grabbed a spool of clearance 16g Generic speaker wire.

I bought all the wires for my AV rack for about the price I would have spent on those Monster Cables.

I wouldnt be suprised if Monster Cables were wood. Gold plated wood. They are certainly priced as such.

people that got ripped for buying expensive (but nice LOOKING) don't like being told they paid too much.

you can run two coat hangers between an amp and speaker and it will sound EXACTLY the same as some high end profit maker. Rubber and plastic are insulators, NOT SHIELDING.

audiophiles are very defensive, almost as defensive at 9/11 conspiracy folks. They quote OTHER folks work, that was stolen or invented.

If you are worried about wire size, remember the size of the wire that connects from the back of a speaker termimal to the crossover to the driver. it's what, maybe 30 gauge?

well lets not get carried away here .. there will be differences when using very poor wire compared to expensive pure copper wire.. the point being, inexpensive wires can have low resistance and have ample sheilding which makes the need for expensive wires non existant (emphasis on can). now if you had a high quality copper or silver hanger then sure

Rofl, are you a CNN fan? You are right, you don't need insulation to get a signal to your speakers--however, good cables(not talking about expensive) keep away signal interferance while keeping gain up. As far as being defensive, I don't need to be because I don't quote others' work as my own. I wouldn't be here if I didn't have a decent electrical background. My personal preference is to have extra protection because I am a college student who has 50 power strips and electrical wires in the path of my speaker, video and RCA cables.

Make sure to turn up the volume, wet your hands and grip the hangers tightly... j/k

CNN? you mean the news channel. um, no. what does that have to do with anything.

Folks that believe they can tell between high end (overpriced) or standard lamp cord are full of themselves. It's been proven by many professionals that blind tests prove that a wire is a wire is a wire.

can you please explain your view on "keep away signal interferance while keeping gain up"

We both know what we mean, I'm not going further about speaker wire.

Ironic statement... "They quote OTHER folks work, that was stolen or invented." (see above)

As far as CNN goes, I was making a joke about the 9/11 conspiracist comment as politics have nothing to do with speaker wire. As far as my view on speaker wire, read my previous post. I don't like having a hum in my remote speakers.

very ironic.

where as defenders of overpriced wire have BS to use, professionals test and compare.

I thought you were done with this thread? ;-)

As were you, "We both know what we mean, I'm not going further about speaker wire."
I'm just entertained, so I said screw it.

If you boys don't settle down right now, I'm gonna turn this car around and NOBODY is gonna get any ice cream!!!

(Sorry, Flashbacks to childhood)

who's fighting?

we are saying the same thing: overpriced wire is a unnecessary.

the rest is just typical stupid stuff of stubborn internet anonymous geeks.

;-)

Heh, I feel somewhat responsable for this. I'll be the first to admit: I can't tell the difference in sound quality, I'm sure you could stack a coat hanger and a piece of window frame against some monster cable and I wouldn't know the difference...

But, I do like a quality product, wether it makes a practical difference in the operation of whatever it is. A dixie cup holds water just as good as anything, but sometimes I like to drink from a glass made of glass ya-know?

I have bought optical toslink cables from stsi.com

$25 for a 50' optical cable shipped

I'm new

I'm trying to conect a dvd (rca output) to a creative 6.1 speakers system, I dont know if I need to build a new conectors to do this, please help me

can you post model numbers of the DVD player and the speakers that you are trying to connect ?

I'd say use a coax digital connection, if they both have it.

cheers,
gs

I'm guessing that you're trying to run the dvd player through your PC and output to the speakers connected to your sound card, correct? simple answer, get a PC dvd drive (internal or USB based).



If you really really want to use RCA (which, by the way, won't give you surround sound, only stereo). you need to get a RCA to headphone jack adapter. Its a cable that has two RCA plugs on one end and a mini headphone jack on the other.



If I were you, I'd just get a DVD-Rom drive for your PC (doesn't everybody have one of these already?? ). your hardware will have direct access to the dvd and sound card and give you much better sound.