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RaginRudolph
This info came from the AVforms from criswdavis it explains how to make your e-box a stand alone unit "[size=3]YOU WILL NEED A REMOTE CONTROL FOR THIS TO WORK" These codes work on all three models

"As it seems that a couple of people are still interested, this is how I accessed the service modes so that my e-box works with my CRT projector. I, however, am only explaining how I made my E-box work with my CRT projector. I IN NO WAY RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO THE SAME AS CHANGING THE E-BOX SETTING MAY VOID YOUR E-BOX WARRANTY, MAY DAMAGE YOUR E-BOX, OR MAY DAMAGE WHATEVER YOU HAVE HOOKED UP TO YOUR E-BOX. IF YOU CHOOSE USE THIS INFORMATION IN ANY WAY, YOU USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! That said:

First, I hooked my e-box up to my junk computer monitor so that if anything went wrong, I'd only harm junk. The monitor I used indicates when it is receiving a signal and when it is not. My monitor has a light that glows green when it is receiving a signal and amber when it is not. I discovered the service codes can only be entered in that short period when the e-box is sending a signal until it goes into standby mode. I found out that the reason the E-box goes into standby mode with computer monitors and CRT projectors is because the e-box is using pin 15 to detect whether the E-box is hooked up to a Philips flat TV. When the e-box does not detect the right model of Philips flat TV, it goes into standby mode (I was toying around with the idea of sending different types of signals through pin 15 to emulate a Philips flat TV and looked online to find any information on what type of signal was being sent when I discovered this solution).

Next, I hooked up my e-box up to a video source such as a DVD or VCR because the e-box appeared to go into standby mode faster if it was not receiving some sort of signal.

To do this, I turned the power switch on the e-box off (not on the remote) so the green light on the e-box goes out. I then turned the e-box on with the remote. In the 3 or 4 seconds before the e-box went into standby mode, I used the channel button on my remote to select the right AV input until I saw what was playing on my video source. This took a couple tries so I just repeated this step until I saw video.

I next practiced entering service codes using my e-box remote. The following are the four service codes I used:

Service Default Mode (SDM): 062596+Menu
Service Alignment Mode(SAM): 062596+OSD or 062596+Info
Customer Service Mode(CSM): 123654
Leave Service: 00

I found that the Service Default Mode prevents the e-box from going into standby mode so I could can enter into Service Alignment Mode. I also found that the Service Alignment Mode permitted me to change e-box system settings much like a computer set up mode. The Customer Service Mode is a diagnostic mode which reveals whether the e-box has reported any errors (Customer Service Mode was designed as a code Philips would provide end users to access e-box diagnostics when speaking with technical support without letting the end user make any system changes). The Leave Service code got me out of any service mode. One time, however, I had to turn off the e-box to get out of service mode.

I am not very fast at entering codes so I started with Customer Service Mode. That was the easiest code to enter and I used it to practice getting my timing of when the code needs to be entered.

I found that to enter the code, I first needed to get the e-box out of standby mode. To do this, I turned the power switch on the e-box off (not on the remote) so the green light on the e-box goes out. I then turned the e-box on with the remote. When the computer monitor indicated that the e-box was sending a signal, I entered the CSM code. With a little practice, I saw for a second or two the Customer Service screen, before the e-box went into standby mode. This led me to believe that I was on the right track.

Once I got the timing down, I used the same timing to enter the SDM code. When I entered the code correctly, the e-box did not go into standby mode and I saw a label on the screen indicating that the e-box was in service default mode. (Philips told me that they could not service my E-box unless I had the right Philips flat TV, evidently they were wrong. They also told me that I should have called Philips before I bought the E-box and asked them whether the E-box was compatible with CRT projector, even though Philips admitted that the E-box manual stated it had a RGB port without any indication that it would only work with Philips products. Philips also had the gall to disclaim any responsibility for the E-box's lack of compatibility and stated that I should not rely on their manual but I should call Philips before I buy any of their products (DVD players, VCR's, CD players, stereos, etc.) to determine if it is compatible. Needless to say I will not be buying any other Philips' products considering Philips admitted lack of compatibility and Philips otherwise substandard customer service. Sorry about the tirade, but I had to get that off my chest. Now back to our continuing saga. . . . ).

Next, I entered the SAM code. The first SAM code did not work for me so I tried the second with the info button as the last key. BINGO, I was in the Service Alignment Mode which let me change the setup.

I WAS VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THE SETTINGS I CHANGED BECAUSE I BELIEVED THAT CHANGING THE WRONG SETTING COULD CAUSE MY E-BOX NOT TO WORK AT ALL.

I then scrolled through the SAM menu until I found the following setting:

Stand alone unit: No.

I changed the No to Yes, saved my settings and exited the Service Alignment Mode by entering 00 on my remote. After making this change, my e-box no longer went into standby mode. Since my e-box properly displayed on my junk computer monitor which was lower resolution than my CRT projector, I figured it would be safe to connect it to my CRT projector. I now have all of my video components hooked up to my CRT projector through my e-box and it appears to be working great. Sorry about the long story, but I wanted to be as complete as possible."

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RaginRudolph
Here are 3 pics of the E-box remote control the only model # I found is located in the battery compartment on the white label
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You can also use this universal remote with the system" RCA Universal remote control model # RCR815

Here's another remote that was purchase by Welonjb and he says it was made for the e-boxes, Philips RC2035/01B Matchline remote

Happy Hunting

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RaginRudolph
E-box inputs and outputs now I have a FTR9964 and 65 both have the same configuration I cannot comment on the FTR9955 model
RaginRudolph
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Sorry guys but I had a long day and typing is not what I something I love to do,so all the info you need can be found on the first three pages here,

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....age=1&pp=30

Please feel free to ask any question I'll try to anwser to the best of my knowledge

RR
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Cold Steel
Appreciate it., thanks, CS
Cold Steel
I got the ebox in and plugged it up.
Now how do i tell if it's on? I can't tell at all.

I can get the light to come on but I think it means it's in standby mode.
Is this the only light to tell if it's on?

My screen says Not Compatable With This Signal.

I got the RCA RCR815 remote control but I can't tell if it turns it off. Will the FTR9965 turn off when it's in standby mode with the remote?

I need the proper code to enter on the remote for the Philips. I've tried all of them I think. I'm supposed to turn on the Ebox and let the remote turn it off when it finds the correct code. (code finder is automatic on the RCA remote). I've entered some manually too.No luck.

Maybe just give me a rundown on how the ftr works or acts with the light.
RaginRudolph
CS have you check out the thread to the AVForms that I have in post #4 on page #2 post #47 and on "CRISWDAVIS" talks about being able to get the e-box to turn on and off using that remote.

I do know there are three things that you will need and that is the #1 the e-box,#2 your monitor connected to the e-box and #3 your remote control.
Now it my be frustrating but you need to be able to turn the e-box on and off with the remote control first.
Make sure your e-box is off and try to turn it on with the remote,your monitor power button has a light buy it letting you know not only that the monitor is on but it is recieving a signal from the e-box that light is usually blue and when it is not recieving a signal the blue light changes color between that time of recieving a signal you have to enter a code, please read the info in the AVS forms it's very helpful good luck.

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Cold Steel
Thanks RR , I did use your link. I found this posted by hut (and it's what I used to access the SAM):
ps:Thanks hut a bunch!!


To physically access the 0356 service pin is just a 5-minute work or less.
All I had was a #0 3.0m/m flat head philips screw drive picked from precision screw driver set which almost all guys have it at home.

Here are the steps:
a. unplug all cables, powers to the FTR9965
b. use the 3.0m/m screw driver to remove the n=5 none-standard screws on the top cover of FTR9965. (n=2 on each side of box, n=1 on top of rear connections)
c. face to the front control panel, and look at rigth lower cornor for a "credit card" sized PCB with metal shielding case on it. This PCB is mount on black plastic housing. It's a 3D comb filter PCB.
d. remove the n=2 black none-standard screws (n=1 each on the side of the black plastic housing)
e. carefully remote the black plastic housing.
f. Look for a "white, 3-ping ,on board, male connector " labled 0356. This 0356 connector was convered/underneath the plastic housing that just removed.

Note: this 0356 connector/socket is like a Molex 2.54mm type of connector. The label has very small fonts printed on PCB, you almost can't see it, however it's the only white connector there).
Note: The 0356 sits right next to 0355 connector which is a drak brown colored 3-pin flat cable assembly that connects across two main PCB of the FTR9965.

g. put back your power cords, and cables/ for display and video source.
h. turn on FTR9965, either by hard button or through remote controller. No sequence here, just turn the device on.
h. use the #0 3.0m/m screw driver to short the service pins. I like to insert the flat haed inbetween two pins, then turn around for it to short those pins.
Note: short pin 1-2 for accessing SAM mode. (your display will pop out warnign message all warning message, and ask you to hit any number keys on remote to contine or powe off the device to exist)
short pin 2-3 for accesing SDM mode. (there will have an OSD label "SDM" display on the top right conor of display)
With face to the front of control panel, the first pin that nears you is pin 1, then pin 2 in the middle, then pin 3 the farest.

Then you just take time to play around each modes.

My finding is
1. SDM is to adjust image off-set/overscan caused by your display. Use the up/down/left/right disk on remote controller to adjust image position. For adjust ment convenience, I would suggest to use TV/cable TV singals, as it always jump to channel 2 or 3 while in SDM mode.

2. SAM mode has many things to play around. it even shows how long the FTR9965 been used and firmware version with dates. Mine was generated on NOv 19, 2003.
Nothing touched in the SAM mode will screw your display. but just remember to mark the value before you change it.
One thing to adjust is the IF lume value, it's default at "1" on my FTR9965. I turn it to "0" and get much detailed TV image.
I also adjust down the IF stength, which make my VPW505 not out of sync that often, but still not flawless.
Under the service option, I can find the "Stand alone" with "yes or no" selection.

3. To remove the jumpers (located on Video A main PCB, label 1 2 3 9) has no effect to the output timing or get me into another service mode. So I just leave them there.

4. To connect or disconnect 0355 3-pin flat cable assembly has nothing to service mode either.


You MUST have a remote of some kind to access SAM!!!!!!
I used this remote:
Philips Universal Remote

This remote was still a problem , I had lots of problems findind a correct code that would even work anything. It finally allowed me to use the TV function while scanning for codes. I pressed the big "M" (mute) after it turned off the 9965 to save the code. It took several tries to get the remote to accept the code. There were about 3 different codes and 2 of which the pressing of the mute "M" button wouldn't save that particular code to the remote. Finally one got saved to the remote and that's what allowed me access to the ftr9965 SAM settings.
The remote turned the ftr9965 on and off. When it turned on I shorted out the two pins mentioned above and right to the danger do not mess with me screen. So I pushed a number button and it allowed me access. I proceeded to change the setting to yes and then pressed the two numbers (00) to exit. Unplugged it to see if the change took and turned the philips ftr-9965 ebox back on and re-entered into SAM mode and all was well.
Up and running now. Thanks RR , CS
RaginRudolph
I'm happy you got your e-box up and running and I thank the the big man that I have my e-box remote because if I had to go through thoughs steps I would be buying a n6 biggrin.gif

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Cold Steel
I purchased this ebox for 132.00 shipped. no remote, purchased original (new in box) remote from ebay for 20.00 shipped. Waiting on my new remote now. tongue.gif
RaginRudolph
Cold Steel what do you think about the 65 model and how far is Pound Va from DC

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Cold Steel
QUOTE (RaginRudolph @ Sep 5 2006, 07:12 PM) *
Cold Steel what do you think about the 65 model and how far is Pound Va from DC

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I'm still waiting for my new remote. It's supposed to be in Friday. I hooked it up temporarily and it had a great picture. The scaling of broadcast letterbox wasn't as good as my T7 transcoder scaler. I haven't set up all the tweaks available due to no remote so I'm sure I will find some way to scale it to fit my screen better. I currently have it unhooked until the remote comes in. I have such a great picture I don't see how it can get much better. I tried to use the pc input as a feed through but didn't get it to work , maybe the remote can fix that too. All my stuff feeds through the Vdigi so I unhooked the VGA cable and tried to feed it through the 65 but it didn' work that way. we'll see.
DC is about 7-8 hour drive from here.
Cold Steel
Now that I've gotten the 9965 up and running. There are lots of settings to change color , contrast etc... I noticed one thing with the widescreen option. It cuts some of the picture off on one side. At least it does on mine. When I run Direct tv through it with the S-video cable watching a letterbox show (widescreen broadcasted) The picture is not to scale to me.
I used the Philips T-7 transcoder-scaler with the same picture using an S-video input and it corrects the problem. (one awesome picture) I have to use the T-7 through the vga input in back of the 9965. The vga is a feedthrough and doesn't have the options to correct color hue and such. The T-7 is really a great product. It runs way to hot for my liking
I'll still be keeping the 9965 to run component output devices like the gamecube , ps2. It's an easy switch to one of the component inputs using the remote.
The picture quality of the 9965 is really great using the pixel plus technology over the standard viewing of cable tv or direct tv. I wish the vga feedthrough would use the pixel plus technology.
I think if the direct tv box would have component outputs I wouldn't need the T-7.

Inside the SDM mode there are code settings for the 9965 and I need a service manual to access-install the correct codes. I need to know what changing of each code does before I change it. I might be able to rescale the picture to correct the widescreen missing picture using the SDM codes.

Has anyone found a Service Manual (Not the hookup manual, I have it) ??
weldonjb
Hey guys, looks like you have done some homework here.

I have the Eizo 15" LCD L365 inside my projector. It is 1024x768.

Do you think the e-box with the service mode changes would allow me to hook up my component cables from my Charter Communications DVR? (Moxi) Does the e-box allow my to use 720p on my lcd from the cable box? Any idea of how it would handle the signal ... letterbox it?
Cold Steel
QUOTE (weldonjb @ Oct 9 2006, 06:30 PM) *
Hey guys, looks like you have done some homework here.

I have the Eizo 15" LCD L365 inside my projector. It is 1024x768.

Do you think the e-box with the service mode changes would allow me to hook up my component cables from my Charter Communications DVR? (Moxi) Does the e-box allow my to use 720p on my lcd from the cable box? Any idea of how it would handle the signal ... letterbox it?


It would allow you to put a picture to your lcd but it wouldn't look like what I would consider a nomal letterbox but then again it might if it's broadcast in HD from Charter. I just have normal direct tv and regular cable and the programs in letterbox show up but it doesn't have the full picture. I run my tv through a Philips transcoder but it doesn't handle component very well but it does an awesome job with programs that are letterboxed broadcast. I would love to have a dvr or something like that to send a component signal directly to the e-box I believe it would be a much clearer picture.

What's your input to this question RR. , CS
RaginRudolph
I agree with CS the hd programs looks great and even with the pixal plus the regular programs but you should be able to send a 720p signal through the HD imputs with no problem ,with my current setup with my 17" LG and using my OPPO DVD player I can 720p through the e-box componant inputs.

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weldonjb
What are the differences between the FTR9964 and the FTR9965 related to the use of our VGA projectors and an incoming DVI/HDCP signal or component inputs from the cable box? Will I be able to do the service mode "trick" on an FTR9964? Will the FTR9964 output a 720p signal for my VGA LCD panel projector?
RaginRudolph
QUOTE (weldonjb @ Oct 10 2006, 05:09 PM) *
What are the differences between the FTR9964 and the FTR9965 related to the use of our VGA projectors and an incoming DVI/HDCP signal or component inputs from the cable box? Will I be able to do the service mode "trick" on an FTR9964? Will the FTR9964 output a 720p signal for my VGA LCD panel projector?


All three model can be converted to be stand alone boxes, I have a 64 and a 65 model and both will allow 720p to pass thru the componant imputs,unless your LCD has componant RGB you won't be able to send 720p signal from a LCD, the only way I get 720p to my LCD is thru it,s DVI connection which is connected to my OPPO DVD player which has DVI and it is not HDCP compliant. I hope I've anwser your question.

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weldonjb
QUOTE (RaginRudolph @ Oct 11 2006, 11:58 PM) *
All three model can be converted to be stand alone boxes, I have a 64 and a 65 model and both will allow 720p to pass thru the componant imputs,unless your LCD has componant RGB you won't be able to send 720p signal from a LCD, the only way I get 720p to my LCD is thru it,s DVI connection which is connected to my OPPO DVD player which has DVI and it is not HDCP compliant. I hope I've anwser your question.

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So what you are saying is, if I read you right, is that if I connect my cable box, and it is sending a 720p stream through the component cables to the FTR9965, that the FTR9965 will not send that image out through the VGA port to my LCD panel? Will it drop it down to a 480p then to the lcd?

Maybe the better question is, what can I pump into the FTR9965 and get out a decent image on my 1024x768 LCD through the VGA connection (DB15)?

1) S-Video/composite?
2) Analog cable?
3) QAM digital cable?
4) Component inputs from a cable box?
5) Component inputs from an xbox?
6) VGA Inputs from an X2VGA - Xbox?
7) DVI w/HDCP from cable box?
8) VGA input from a PC?

And for each of the above, what resolution will be accepted going in and passed out to the LCD?

Sorry to be so detailed, but you seem to know quite a bit from experience what will and won't work with these things, RR. thanks for the help.
Erock
How do you hook up analog cable to the 9964?? I thought you could hook up tv with this thing??
RaginRudolph
QUOTE (Erock @ Oct 16 2006, 01:46 AM) *
How do you hook up analog cable to the 9964?? I thought you could hook up tv with this thing??


The e-box is just like a TV it just has no screen , your only output from the e-box is a vga connection which means you can only hook it up to a monitor with a vga input (computer LCD or regular monitor ) if you look in the E-BOX plog which is only a page long you can see three different type of connection for input one ,if yours didn't come with the coaxial adaptor you can pick that piece up at your local Radio Shack.

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RaginRudolph
QUOTE (weldonjb @ Oct 12 2006, 04:58 AM) *
So what you are saying is, if I read you right, is that if I connect my cable box, and it is sending a 720p stream through the component cables to the FTR9965, that the FTR9965 will not send that image out through the VGA port to my LCD panel? Will it drop it down to a 480p then to the lcd?

Maybe the better question is, what can I pump into the FTR9965 and get out a decent image on my 1024x768 LCD through the VGA connection (DB15)?

1) S-Video/composite?
2) Analog cable?
3) QAM digital cable?
4) Component inputs from a cable box?
5) Component inputs from an xbox?
6) VGA Inputs from an X2VGA - Xbox?
7) DVI w/HDCP from cable box?
8) VGA input from a PC?

And for each of the above, what resolution will be accepted going in and passed out to the LCD?

Sorry to be so detailed, but you seem to know quite a bit from experience what will and won't work with these things, RR. thanks for the help.


You can use all except for #3 which I don't know what that is and #7 because there is no DVI connection on the E-BOX now if I'm correct the 64 model will only do 480P you can send 720p to it but it will change it to 480p output and the 65 model with pixel plus will accept 720p through its componant connection.

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Erock
Hey RaginRudolph, sorry to bother you again, but the weirdest thing happened. I had my ebox hooked up to my old huge samsung monitor and it was working perfectly. I changed it to stand alone mode and I was playing xbox. Then I hooked it up to the monitor in my projector and it says "out of range" no matter what I do??
Luckily I will be getting a new monitor for my projector because it has other issues, but I'm totally suprised by that. I would think a newer monitor would be able to handle the ebox better than an old crappy one.

Edit: I tried it with my computer monitor and it worked perfectly, but the monitor in my projector still says "out of range". Could possibly be the cable but I doubt it.

Edit Again: Tried three new cables. Using my xbox with composite input, so the resolution is super low. Still says "out of range." It must be the frequency. Is there any options on the ebox to adjust the horizontal or vertical frequency??? Thank god I am trashing this monitor but it's the westinghouse 15", so other people might want to be aware of this.

Thanks
RaginRudolph
It's good to here you got your hook up but it sounds like your monitor resolution is either to low or to high,I would think if the e-box worked on two other displays and not on a third one there my be something on the third display that needs to be adjusted, I don't know of any adjustments for the frequency range for the e-box , also check your input at the e-box I know input #4 and #5 are componant and input #4 won't do 720p only 480p but input #5 will do both I'm talking about the 65 model.

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reet
These recievers look like a great product. I am only really interested in the FTR9965 because of the higher resolution capabilities, though I can't find anywhere that is actually selling them, new or used. Any ideas of where to look would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
RaginRudolph
QUOTE (reet @ Oct 24 2006, 06:58 AM) *
These recievers look like a great product. I am only really interested in the FTR9965 because of the higher resolution capabilities, though I can't find anywhere that is actually selling them, new or used. Any ideas of where to look would be much appreciated.

Thanks.


E-bay you have to check once a week like right now there are 5 FRT9964 up for auction now, someone will be putting the 65 up son just be patiant my son ,it will come.

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weldonjb
I just bought a FTR-9964 off of Ebay to go with my 1024x768 Eizo. This is gonna be fun.
weldonjb
Okay, my two cents worth here:

I was using an HTPC, which at least for me, ended up being too much of a pain in the backside for me and the wife. So, I picked up an FTR9964 off of Ebay. Somebody had already "unlocked" it, which was a great bonus. I also picked up a Philips RC2035/01B Matchline remote off of Ebay, which has really made the whole thing SO much more pleasant. It is built to drive the E-Boxes.

Now, that said, I wasn't too happy with the picture quality of the E-Box at first. I plugged in the coax from the cable box, and I got a picture, but it was grainy and a pain. I twisted and turned all the options, but it just didn't get all that better.

Then, I switched the cable box to the composite (yellow) output in to the E-Box on one of the other AV entry points. Wow, what a great picture now. Bright, good contrast, VERY adjustable in terms of size, etc. I found I did have to monkey with my panel settings for size and position more than I expected, but in the end, the signal matched the pixels very well. We even watched an OnDemand movie with half the lights on last night, and it was quite enjoyable. Should be great after a screen improvement.

Right now I have the XBox going in using composite as well. My HD out is in use downstairs with the 2nd Xbox, but I plan on testing that out shortly. I am also going to haul the Moxi box (HD DVR Motorola from Charter) upstairs to see how it delivers on the E-box.

One thing I played with also was setting my output to force 16:9. This worked pretty well, and may be necessary given the supply of easily available substrate for screens.

All in all, it seems to me like the E-boxes are a FANTASTIC match to our projectors.
RaginRudolph
Welonjb it's good to see another pleased e-box user let me add you can get a grear picture from the 64 but with the pixel plus that the 65 has to offer it makes the pictures even better .

Enjoy
RR
weldonjb
I played around with HD content from the component out of my DVR last night. It's a Motorola Moxi from Charter. Unfortunately, a 1024x768 panel is just not going to show HD content very well from a 720p or 480p signal (though it handled a 1080i ... fuzzy and cropped). The E-box passes through the progressive signals, and my panel won't handle it. Still, the HD channels looked good coming out at 480i, though many of the picture improvement options were unavailable.

I reconnected again, this time using the composite out, and boom ... great picture, even on the HD channels. Given the hoops the signal from the HD channels had to go through to get onto the screen, I was VERY pleased. Even with both signals coming out of the set-top at 480i, the HD channels were clearer and of course 16:9 which IMHO is the big win.

One thing I did notice though. I like the look of the standard def channels better from the regular ole digital cable box. So, given that I can watch HD content downstairs if desired, and that the E-box cleans up an SD signal so well, I think I will stick with SD content in the Bedroom Theater for cable channels.

Now to mod my Xbox to output a better image from DVD's. smile.gif
simp1yamazn
i have an ftr9964 and go the codes to work and the picture quality is great. However, i was wondering if there is any way to save the changes? each time i turn it off i have to re-enter the codes.
RaginRudolph
QUOTE (simp1yamazn @ Feb 6 2007, 05:30 PM) *
i have an ftr9964 and go the codes to work and the picture quality is great. However, i was wondering if there is any way to save the changes? each time i turn it off i have to re-enter the codes.


If you read the first two pages of this plog on page one you can get all the info you need to get your e-box to work as a stand alone and save your settings.

RR
pnilz
Sorry for bringing this topic up. i googled to see if i could find the problem with my 9965 going into standby all the time and now that i found the stand alone option im more than happy smile.gif

anyways i have the european model, 4 scart's and 1 component input. i hooked my xbox to the component input and set it up for 720p and connected the vga to my 37" LG but the whole screen is like moved to the left and i dont know how to fix this, any help will gladly be appriciated.
weldonjb
Hmmm any autoadjust option on your panel?

My Eizo had to be monkeyed with a bit ... think it was under timings.
pnilz
I really dont think theres such options since we are talking about a LCD TV here.
RaginRudolph
Now I'm not a big gamer dry.gif but there are some first person games that I love,my brother introduce me to Golden Eye for the N64 and guess what biggrin.gif I fell in love with it and bought that system just for that one game and till this day I have not yet to complete all of the stages,so as time went on I purshase a PS2 and discoverd Resident Evil and Need for Speed, while I was building my PJ I couldn,t wait to play these game on a life size screen but when the time came I was very disapointed sad.gif cause the picture was to dark so for the past two years no games on the projector until last night ,I have missed with all of the video function that the e-box has and the contrast and brightness with the monitor didn't help any so last night I discoverd the gamma setting ohmy.gif wow like day and night the picture look great even Resident Evil which is a very dark game is like playing it on my regular tv .
Man I feel like a dummy cause I now that I read in one of these plogs about someone raising there gamma for brightness,I have to reset it back to it's normal setting if I'm not gaming which I don't mind , James Bond I'm back now where's my sniper rifle.

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MKIII
Hello RaginRudolph.

Fellow Marylander here. smile.gif Thanks for starting this thread! wink.gif

I have a 42FD9954 & FTR9964 and I have no documentation for any of it. sigh. So that explains my state of confusion setting up my Plasma with the ebox.

I have spent the last 3 days scouring the web for info on how to get my system setup and working and then I found this forum. smile.gif

Here are my questions:

- Anyone have a copy of the manuals for the Philips 42FD9954 Plasma & ebox FTR9964?
- Do you have to get a F-pin connector to connect your coaxial cable to the ebox? If so, where to get one??
- Anyone know the remote model number for the FTR9964?
- Where to get a 15pin VGA cable?

I need to source the 15pin VGA cable & F-pin to complete my setup.


I appreciate any comments. Thanks.
RaginRudolph
QUOTE (MKIII @ Dec 6 2007, 06:39 AM) *
Hello RaginRudolph.

Fellow Marylander here. smile.gif Thanks for starting this thread! wink.gif

I have a 42FD9954 & FTR9964 and I have no documentation for any of it. sigh. So that explains my state of confusion setting up my Plasma with the ebox.

I have spent the last 3 days scouring the web for info on how to get my system setup and working and then I found this forum. smile.gif

Here are my questions:

- Anyone have a copy of the manuals for the Philips 42FD9954 Plasma & ebox FTR9964?
- Do you have to get a F-pin connector to connect your coaxial cable to the ebox? If so, where to get one??
- Anyone know the remote model number for the FTR9964?
- Where to get a 15pin VGA cable?

I need to source the 15pin VGA cable & F-pin to complete my setup.


I appreciate any comments. Thanks.


Anwsers: 1 No manuals, I learned how to use the remote to make to FTR9964 a standalone box all other function I had to figure out myself.
2. Radio Shack

3.second post on the first page plus if you read further someone did find a substitute.

4.That a regular computer VGA cable for a moniter.

Hope this helps, where in MD are you located and are you going to build a projector if so what type.

RR
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MKIII
Ok, thanks.

As far as the F-pin goes...what's everyone using? These are what I found from Radio Shacks's website:




Monster Standard® SV1F-1M 3.3-Ft. F-Pin Video Cable

RaginRudolph
I have three Eboxes and only one came with the connector ,the other two I went to Radio Shack and purchase this adaptor to connect a coaxial cable to it.Its called F-pin M/M Adaptor F-Type M to Coax-F

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MKIII
QUOTE (RaginRudolph @ Dec 6 2007, 09:18 PM) *
I have three Eboxes and only one came with the connector ,the other two I went to Radio Shack and purchase this adaptor to connect a coaxial cable to it.Its called F-pin M/M Adaptor F-Type M to Coax-F

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Got it! Thanks. I'll print it and take it to Radio Shack. I called 3 Radio Shacks and over the phone no one knew anything about this, sigh.

I found a VGA cable now I'll try to connect my DVD player and see what it produces.

I'll NEVER buy an open box item no matter how "good" the deal. I got no manuals, no instructions and no cables. So i'm stumping my toe with each and every step to get this setup.

Which brings me to this question, is the ebox "design or technology" old design?? Meaning, why have an ebox to begin with? Or is it for ease of use of connecting peripherals devices without having to go behind your Plasma on the wall etc.? OR, there is enhanced technology in the box to really enhance one's viewing expereience?

Do manufacturers of today use some type of ebox??

Some confusing questions probably setmming from my fustration. smile.gif Thanks.

RaginRudolph
QUOTE (MKIII @ Dec 7 2007, 05:00 PM) *
Got it! Thanks. I'll print it and take it to Radio Shack. I called 3 Radio Shacks and over the phone no one knew anything about this, sigh.

I found a VGA cable now I'll try to connect my DVD player and see what it produces.

I'll NEVER buy an open box item no matter how "good" the deal. I got no manuals, no instructions and no cables. So i'm stumping my toe with each and every step to get this setup.

Which brings me to this question, is the ebox "design or technology" old design?? Meaning, why have an ebox to begin with? Or is it for ease of use of connecting peripherals devices without having to go behind your Plasma on the wall etc.? OR, there is enhanced technology in the box to really enhance one's viewing expereience?

Do manufacturers of today use some type of ebox??

Some confusing questions probably setmming from my fustration. smile.gif Thanks.


When Large LCD's first came out some were just huge monitor's, no tv tuners and not to many peripherals just a vga connection and Phillips had some of those monitors and they came up with the ebox.Now you do have other models by different companies,people have been wanting to get a tv signal for a long time.
You can probaly find some of these huge LCD monitors around and it should cost alot less than one with a tuner.

RR
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MKIII
QUOTE (RaginRudolph @ Dec 6 2007, 09:18 PM) *
I have three Eboxes and only one came with the connector ,the other two I went to Radio Shack and purchase this adaptor to connect a coaxial cable to it.Its called F-pin M/M Adaptor F-Type M to Coax-F

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Well, if you happen to come across one of these please let me know as I'm still trying to find one. THANKS!!
Chris Atrophy
'Which brings me to this question, is the ebox "design or technology" old design?? Meaning, why have an ebox to begin with? Or is it for ease of use of connecting peripherals devices without having to go behind your Plasma on the wall etc.? OR, there is enhanced technology in the box to really enhance one's viewing expereience?'

Old technology, yes its for ease of connecting input devices, one cable to monitor, as far as enhancing viewing experience, it depends if you like Philips Trimension or DNM (digital natural motion). Try turning on 'DNM' and watching a movie, one with huge pans like lotr... a lot smoother. Its because it renders the framerate up to 60 fps. Some people dont like it, I use this for my PS2, kind of a nice way to enhance old stuff. I also use windvd7 because it has this as well (listd as Trimension) which in the software form seems to have a more pronounced effect. Try it and see if you like it. But beware, it does not like video (30fps)material, so a lot of TV on DVD look bad with this option turned on, its just works good with 24 fps material.
MKIII
Hello all,

I think I've got some success with the F-pin adapter. smile.gif

Now the next question is, what is everyone using to connect the ebox to the 42FD9965 monitor? Are you using component RBG cables? The DVI-D is out because there is no connector on the ebox.

What about the S-Video, anyone using this??

Can't wait to get some feedback on the monitor.



Regards..
RaginRudolph
QUOTE (MKIII @ Dec 9 2007, 07:26 AM) *
Hello all,

I think I've got some success with the F-pin adapter. smile.gif

Now the next question is, what is everyone using to connect the ebox to the 42FD9965 monitor? Are you using component RBG cables? The DVI-D is out because there is no connector on the ebox.

What about the S-Video, anyone using this??

Can't wait to get some feedback on the monitor.



Regards..

There should be a VGA input on the monitor and connect the other to VGA output from the ebox,if you can post pic of monitors connection it makes thing alot easier.

RR
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Chris Atrophy
wow youre the first person ive seen to actually use the e-box for a philips TV! smile.gif yeah go VGA... same quality as component, and its what youre 'supposed' to use, if this is one of the TVs that originally had the e-box as an option...
MKIII
Ok, let's see if this list can give you any insight to what the connections are that I'm working with.

I have the FTR9964 ebox. I'm going to be setting this up in the living room with the Plasma mounted on the wall using a Sanus wall mounting kit.

I have the actual cable coming into the house plugging directly to the ebox (not using the Comcast digital box at the moment) and I have a Samsung DVD player. I don't really have that much room to put allot of devices and cabinet so I may get the Bose 321 GS that has DVD/CD/AM/FM built in.

That's my actual goal, but for now I want to get this Plasma up on the wall and the ebox cranking. biggrin.gif


You guys knows what the back of the ebox look like so here's a list of what the connections are on the back of the Plasma.

Also, should I be using RCA cables or Component RGB cables??


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Highlights of the Philips 42FD9954 Plasma Screen:

* Flat, Slim and Wide monitor design (depth 3.5in.)
* Plasma ALiS/ High Resolution technology
* Digital Natural Motion ™
* Digital CrystalClear ™
* 3D Y/C comb filter
* Integrated speaker/ sound system
* Dual HD component input
* PC input
* Double Window,Two-Tuner PIP
* AutoScreen ™ Fit
* Active Control ™ with ambient light sensor
* Dynamic graphical user interface
* Closed Captioning
* Flat-to-Wall mount kit
* Dimensions: 48.1 x 26.8 x 3.6 in.

ALiS/ High Resolution Plasma technology - with 1024 x 1024 pixels.

Digital Natural Motion™ offers razor-sharp reproduction of movement and motion.The unique and highly advanced processing calculates motion trajectories of moving picture elements. It corrects jerky movement from both studio programs or movie material.

Digital CrystalClear™ with Dynamic Contrast, Comb filter, 9-bit processing, luminance enhancements and color enhance-ments (LTP2). Offer a crisp and natural picture from any type or quality of source.

Dual HD component input and full 1080i resolution - display for connection to high definition input.

Double Window, two-tuner PIP with second tuner Double Window. Single PIP (free positioning), 3 fold and 6 fold side PIP's. Also offers photofinish, freeze Main and freeze PIP. Replay lets you play back the previous few seconds in a PIP screen: if you missed the action, replay it as much as you want. Second Tuner sound on headphones.

AutoScreen™ Fit will display programs from any aspect ratio (up to 16:9), filling the complete screen without apparent distortions.

Active Control™ Continuous picture analysis and control of: Automatic Digital Noise Reduction, Auto Sharpness, Auto Color, Auto Dynamic Contrast, Ambient light sensor. Automatically offers the best picture setting in three levels, off, min, max. A demo menu shows you, based on the picture content the real-time adjustments of 5 parameters.

'Monitor is Center’ reproduction option. All monitor speakers play as center channel speaker so that you can use speakers as part of your surround sound system.

Powerful 2x15W RMS amplifier built in. Full digital sound processing.

AutoPicture™ and AutoSound™ modes. Easy setting via direct remote control keys

AutoSurf™ list. Add your favorite channels and switch through them with one button click.

Dynamic Graphical User Interface. Easy and intuitive operation through feedforward and backtracking display. 8 Directional thumbpad cursor control. Full menu control of all functions through layered menus. Easy control of most used features through daily menus.

Zoom 16x (4x, 9x). Cursor movable zoom window.

Multi system Remote Control Transparent keys with backlighting.Thumbpad cursor and matching color finish.

YPbPr inputs for best DVD reproduction

Three menu languages, English, French, Spanish
Technical Specifications

Plasma screen

* Visible screen diameter 42” - 16:9 aspect ratio
* ALiS/HD 1024x1024 pixels (x3)
* Contrast ratio : 400:1 (dark room)
* Brightness : 600cd/m 2 (without filter plate)
* Anti-reflex coated glass screen
* Fanless design (no fan noise)
* Wall mount kit : Flat-to-Wall as well as Tilted
* Optional stands : a.o. ‘Arch’ TC32 9964/2R

Picture processing

* Digital Natural Motion ™
* Digital CrystalClear ™
* Active Control ™
o Auto Sharpness Control - 7 steps
o Auto Dynamic Contrast / Histogram
o Auto Digital Noise Reduction
o Ambient Light Sensor
o Auto Format / Auto Screen Fit ™
* Auto Picture ™ (5 modes)
o soft, natural, rich, personal, multimedia
* Tint Control (3 modes)
* WideScreen plus

Sound processing

* Sound system : BTSC (incl. DBX) / SAP Stereo
* Auto Sound ™ (5 modes)
o movie, speech, music, personal, multimedia
* Output : 2x15W RMS (@10%THD)
* Digital Signal Processing
* Spatial-Pseudo Stereo
* Bass / Treble control
* Separate Headphone volume
* Language I-II selection (SAP)
* ‘Monitor is Center’ setup (with ext. HiFi system)

Ease of Use

* Dynamic graphical user interface. Easy and intuitive operation through feedforward and backtracking display.
* Full menu control of all functions through layered menus.
* Onscreen status display for channels and functions (OSD)
* AutoLock™ to protect young children from objectionable programming with V-chip technology
* Favourite channel selection and Surf ™ loop
* Active Control ™ demo menu indicating real time picture settings
* Double Window, two-tuner PIP
* EasyTune™
* Multi-language menu / OSD (Eng, Fre, Spa, Port)
* Sleeptimer up to 180 minutes.
* Closed Captioning
* Picture Freeze & Replay
* Mosaic Screen (Scan
* Last Status (for picture & sound)
* Dealer Link : wireless communication for installation and service.

Reception

* Tuning system: PLL Digital Tuning
* Color transmission systems
o Off-air: NTSC - M
o NTSC video playback
* Channel selections : 125 channels
* Aerial input: 75 Ohm (F-threaded)

Remote Control

* RC2035 Multi-system RC
* Second handset RC19335009

Connections

* Front <----- I think this is referring to the ebox front
o S-Video in (Y/C)
o video CVBS (cinch)
o audio L/R-in (cinch) with automatic mono switching
o headphone jack 3.5mm

* Rear
o AV 1 :
+ Video CVBS, audio L-R
+ S-Video (Y/C)
o AV 2 :
+ Video CVBS, audio L-R


o AV 3 :

+ Video CVBS, audio L-R


+ S-Video (Y/C)
o AV 4 :
+ Component video in
+ YPbPr, audio L-R (+CVBS)
o AV 5 :
+ Component video in
+ YPbPr (2Fh for DVD),
+ audio L-R
+ R/G/B/H/V (cinch) + audio L-R
o Record out:
+ Video CVBS out, audio L-R out
o Sound out:
+ 2 audio out L-R, Constant/ Variable level
+ 1 surround sound out,Variable level
o VGA in : 15pin sub-D, audio L-R
o Monitor/VGA out : 15pin sub-D, audio L-R
o Antenna input : 75Ohm F-pin

Miscellaneous

* Included cables
o 2 VGA cables, 2m & 5m (incl. Gold cinch)
o Antenna cable
* Optional color frames (sold seperately):
o percision champagne, precision blue, precision green, and precision rouge.
* Ambient temperature : +5/+40°C
* Maximum operating altitude : 2000m / 6562ft
* Power : AC 95–264V, 50/60Hz
* Power consumption: ±300W (normal operation) ; Stand by : <2W
* Weight : monitor 79.4 lbs - receiver 8.82 lbs
* Dimensions (WxHxD):
o Monitor : 48.1 x 26.8 x 3.6 in.
o Receiver : 17.2 x 4.2 x 13 in. (excl. connectors)
RaginRudolph
The pic you posted shows your computer VGA connected to the Philips monitor you connection should as followed

1.computer vga to ebox vga input

2.ebox vga output to Philips tv vga input (with a seperate vga cable)

3.coaxil cable from the wall to ebox(Radio Shack part you just installed)

4.Red and White audio on the ebox right next to where the coaxil is needs to connect to your Philips tv for sound

5. you computer audio needs to connect to the red and white input next to the vga input of the ebox to get sound from your computer

Remember you can change between tv and computer through the ebox and since you connecting your cable directly to it you will have to program the channels in.
Now the ebox was made by Philips to work with Philips monitors/tv you my not need to set your ebox as a stand alone unit and your tv remote my even work your ebox,once you've made your connection from ebox to tv I would manualy turn the on the tv and ebox and if the ebox stays on your in luck but if not you need to make it a stand alone unit and you will need the remote for this easy process.

RR
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fmerrill
FWIW, I think it's been said numerous times, but, the Ebox only has a single output, the VGA out.
You can't connect it to any monitor, projector or other display that does not have a VGA input.
It's the inputs, input switching, the built-in tuner and some of the other features that make it useful.
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