Hey guys, I've finished my projector and it's pretty nice, but I would like it to be brighter, so I will be messing with my video card settings, but I also would like a screen that would have some brightness gain. I don't have too much dough to spend-didn't really factor in a screen when I was making the projector. Is blackout cloth the answer or are there other options?

Thanks a ton
Erock

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....age=3&pp=30

There are alot of ways ^ is one of them But requires some painting skills but is pretty low cost... alternatives are blackout cloth (kinda crappy) or find some material like Da-Lite but thats not "cheap"

personally im gonna use the above mixture ... and heres the reason why

"Why would I use such a low lumen PJ for a location that had white walls, garage windows on the double wide door, and a light Grey floor? Am I stewpid or sumpthin'? And I'll have to set it up 21' feet away from the screen, thereby reducing those 500 lumens to approx. 200-250? I must be CRAZY!!!!

Naw. I'm being 'crafty'. It seems that somewhere else close by in the neighborhood, there are 10 other people who have built extensive Home Theaters, ranging from 25K to 35K, and all of 'em stickin' to "under 100" in dark environs to assure optimum viewability."

He was testing at 21' away in a bad room doing 200-250lumens .... sounds like about what our DIY PJ's are getting so should be pretty close

Wow that seems pretty complex, but I might give it a try.

wow. now that's a bit of a flashback...

hard to believe that was only 10 months ago... it seems like an eternity.

what i can say is... we've come a long way baby!!!!
and after many, many, improvements... we now have XTREME MAXXMUDD... which will make BOC look rather dull and lifeless in comparison.

best of all, the guess work has been taken out and you can get it here at http://xtreme-fusion-screens.com

... couldn't get any easier than that.

the xtreme maxxmudd is that the version of maxxmudd with the pigments instead of diy colors... or is it the "big improvement to the diy formula" that you told me about on avs? (cchance on avs)

And how is the new xtreme maxxmudd better than the mmudd in the pictures above....

i'd love to see you do some worst case senarios with the xtreme maxxmudd...

move the projector way back so that only around 200lumens hitting the wall... and take some variable light pictures, dark/indoor lights/windows etc... i mean thats why that page sparked my interest the fact you said that the projector was only hitting the wall with about 200lumens which is about average of what our projectors hit the wall with.

Hey Pb Maxx what are your guys' prices. I can't seem to figure out your website but it seems like it might be too expensive for me. Thanks though.

for now you have to use IE. i'm working on getting it compatible with firefox.
select the black flame page... for the black flame pricing. and the xtreme maxxmudd page for the it's pricing.

i had recommended the xtreme maxxmudd for your application. which is only $76 with your lumenlab discount. considering that it's nearly only 1/3 the price of Goo systems... i think it's a fair asking price.

site is coming along nicely, but I still see some frame errors in IE, and of course, you are aware of the problems with firefox.

The description paragraph on both the black flame and mudd pages overlaps the price frame, regardless of resolution.

Hey just a few questions PB

1. How large a screen will I be able to paint with the package you were recommending?

2. What do I paint it on?

Thanks

also how is the gain, say compared to a da-lite screen?

Hey with the da-lite screens, is it possible to like pin that to a flat board to get rid of wrinkles or something? That might seem like a good idea.

Thanks

swill01
xtreme maxxmudd has a variable gain... the more lumens your pj has... the greater the gain you'll recieve from the screen... due to the embedded metallics.

the difference you'll get with x-maxxmudd vs a dalite screen is in the increased black levels.
on axis, the dalite will have greater gain... and brighter/hotter whites (almost to the point of many hotspots all throughout the screen when bright scenes are present)
off axis, the dalite has a very poor viewing cone vs the much wider viewing cone of x-maxxmudd.
with a dalite... ceiling mounting will throw your optimum viewing out the window.
finally, what x-maxxmudd provides is increased ambient viewing vs a dalite.

Erock
with 48... you should be able to cover (roll) 4 coats on a 120" screen.

tameone
are the button algnments in IE in the right positions yet? with the help of a couple of lumenlab members... i should have a completely new ie/firefox compatible site ready for release this coming week and in time for CEDIA.

skyfox
x-maxxmudd is really about me taking what was originally a mix for moderate ambient light and turning it into a mix with greater gain and more suited for controlled viewing. as for the mix which we eventually switched over to pure pigments... that's black flame... and i've chosen not to change the name in any way. as you may have noticed... the very last actual diy formula update was in april. since then the diy formula has remain stagnant. however, behind the scenes, aside from a switch in metallics, the rest of the mix has been converted to pure pigments.

It looks good to me.
The current pages shouldn't be hard to make with pure HTML and tables. By the looks of your code whatever WYSIWYG editor you're using SUCKS... BAD!

What is CEDIA?

Hi, Pb_maxxx
I visited your website(XFS). I interested in black flame . Could you please recoment me what the best material to paint it on is? (I don't paint it on my living room wall.)
I would like to try your product. How much is the shipping cost to Norway?

PM. me Please