http://www.clariondesign.co.uk/products.htm

It's a machine that removes AG/Polarizer. I'm thinking it softens the bond with heat, if this is the case would it be possible to iron an LCD with a standard steam iron?

This machine applies extremely well-controlled heat to a limited area for a precise duration of time. Duplicating such precision by hand may not be impossible but I'd sure hate to try.

Possible? Yeah.

Probable? Somewhat.

As safe as the water soak method for DIY? IMHO no.

I think adopting this method would result in a much higher incidence of panel damage by the DIY crowd.

I emailed the manufacturer. They recommend a heat of 60 deg C (140 deg F) for removing the polarbear.

Wow! And safe op temp according to our DIY recommendations is more like 38°C - correct?

Yes, I didn't want to go there however. I was just curious on the temperature the machine used.

I certainly understand that. This does point out though how risky this procedure probably is for a DIY-makeover.

The operating temp. is usually quoted as a permanent temp....

It will probably withstand 60 degrees for the brief time this machine runs over it to release the adhesive... from what it says on the site it's a quick process.

Agree with Durachko though.. water soak is the way to go for us diy'ers.

Isn't the opporating temp the max temp something can opporate in? For instance alkaline batteries supposidly don't work well when it's very cold, but after you get them warm again they start working again right?

I think if I had a cheap LCD I'd try a home steam antiglare removal!


Oh wait, the machine removes the polorizor, not just the antiglare... Anyone can remove polorizor, you just peel it up, the machine is for when you have to remove 50 polorizors... Nevermind!

Someone has given me a cracked LCD.. i'm going to iron it......

Will let you know how I get on.

Unleash the beast........




I removed the panel from the monitor... Boy it felt good to slice thru those damn FFC's



Lay it on a towel and covered it with another towel:




Then let rip with the iron on it's lowest steam setting
The AG didn't budge, not a bit of seperation at all. There was no way (even with a bit of encouragement from Mr. exacto) was it releasing it's iron grip to the polar.... the polar however keeled over & died in the heat !!

It literally fell away from the panel.

I started at a corner... picked,peeled then ran the iron down whilst peeling:




CONCLUSION.

Never attempt this on a panel you care about, whilst it is an excellent method for stripping both the polar and AG in one go (done in under 1 min.) I couldn't guarantee your screen would work again.

As an AG removal method.... I could never ever ever (not in a million years) see this working.

The bond even when the polar was removed & ironed directly was that strong that even direct heat onto the AG surface had no effect on the bond strength. This was with the iron on maximum breathing more steam than a rather annoyed dragon

All in all quite conclusive... stick with water soak.

Thanks for doing the experiment conker.

Now, mind if I send you some shirts?

me too,, i have a heap here

Me three... I keep Ironing LCD's And my ironing technique doesn't seem to work !


On a side note... I showed this to the wife:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mifnwhRlf8

She said great.... now you can fold all the clothes !

Ha Ha After watching that video i had to try it on a few sirts thanks for the laughs oh wow this is my first post : ) lol and I waisted it on a video on how to fold shirts lmao

Just to let you know. I had a bad AG removal experience and damaged the polarizer. I found it to difficult to just pull it off as I had seen done, so I looked for other options and stumbled on the iron idea. I figured what the hell and tried it. I used an iron and cloth as shown above. It was still difficult to remove all the layers, kept ripping, but most of the glue came off with the layers. Whatever bits of glue were left, I put a piece of the old AG on top of it, gave it some heat and then removed the glue with my fingers. Man that lcd got hot! After it was all off I cleaned it with lens cleaner like I would on a camera.

Was worried if it would work after all I'd put it thru, but when I got the new polarizer it worked fine! No problems.

Interesting. Out of curiousity what temperature setting was your iron on? I assume it got so hot you didn't want to firmly press your fingers onto the heated LCD for any length of time.

Edit: Perhaps a heat gun and careful use would also result in a successful removal.

This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.

What was on there that was so eeeevil?

IIRC it was simply a woman folding a T-shirt using a FAST and rather nifty technique. I'm sure it still exists elsewhere. The T-shirt after she was through looked like one you'd buy at a store. Hard to say why it violated anything.

Edit: I think this is the video but maybe I'm misremembering? Maybe they're saying something nasty. I don't speak the lingo and can't read it either.

Wow.. this has been resurected !

That's some memory as well, it's the exact video !

On Topic.... Whilst attatched to the panel the iron was on half setting, no steam the polar fell off the panel... Th eiron was set as hot as it would go with full steam on the removed layers it wouldn't budge a bit.

Unfortunately my iron just has a graduated scale with no real indication of true temp.

Like most irons I'd imagine. Have you a non-contact thermometer? Not all that important really. I was just curious.

Yeah, I can remember worthless things just fine.

I too had it at around the half setting or just before the steam started. It certainly didn't fall off for me but worked well. The glass did get hot, but not burning your fingers hot or anything. I may have made it sound worse then it was, but I was rather worried when doing it that I was making it too hot. No worries though. Oh yeah and the lcd is a LG 1752t.

No where did I put my keys...