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locellcount
Hi, dunno if this is the right place to asking this, but here goes.

My bank account would probably have a coronary if I went out and put together an HTPC as well as a projector, so I'm planning on using my xbox and XBMC. Has anyone had any success with this? I'm only in the planning stage of the projector, so everything is fluid smile.gif, but I'm thinking of going for a 17" screen since I can't seem to find any 15" panels @ 1280x1024. The other option is to go for a 15" LCD TV which would have all sorts of wonderful inputs and upscalers built in. But I digress.
pagercam
QUOTE (locellcount @ Jul 3 2006, 09:08 AM) *
Hi, dunno if this is the right place to asking this, but here goes.

My bank account would probably have a coronary if I went out and put together an HTPC as well as a projector, so I'm planning on using my xbox and XBMC. Has anyone had any success with this? I'm only in the planning stage of the projector, so everything is fluid smile.gif , but I'm thinking of going for a 17" screen since I can't seem to find any 15" panels @ 1280x1024. The other option is to go for a 15" LCD TV which would have all sorts of wonderful inputs and upscalers built in. But I digress.

I don't know of anybody doing this here, must be someone. XMBC has gotten very good reviews, only issue is that the Xbox makes TV style signals while a HTPC makes VGA/DVI so a converter is needed, LCD TV or computer monitor with TV support would make things much easier.
ille
Hello!

i would suggest that you go with a regular monitor,..but buy a switch for the xbox,..

like X2VGA+

you can prolly find others too
Litherish
QUOTE (pagercam @ Jul 4 2006, 03:10 AM) *
I don't know of anybody doing this here, must be someone. XMBC has gotten very good reviews, only issue is that the Xbox makes TV style signals while a HTPC makes VGA/DVI so a converter is needed, LCD TV or computer monitor with TV support would make things much easier.

That might be the case for almost everyone, but I found a respected member on Xbox Scene who makes Xbox VGA cables, he puts the Sync on Green chip in also, he makes high quality cables. I plan on buying one soon, message pimpmaul69 at www.xbox-scene.com for details. Here is a picture he sent me http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g49/pimp...69/vgacable.jpg
Oh yeah, the price is 20$ shipped within the US, a VERY good price if you ask me! biggrin.gif
Litherish
I took the plunge and bought one, I'll see how it works out wink.gif
brainlock
QUOTE (Litherish @ Jul 16 2006, 01:58 PM) *
I took the plunge and bought one, I'll see how it works out wink.gif


That sounds like a really good deal... especially after looking at the hunk
of plastic my SCART jack is turning into... cheap soldering irons suck.
(as do my skills tho smile.gif
DarkMeat
Looks interesting but what about the audio inputs?

DM
brainlock
QUOTE (DarkMeat @ Jul 17 2006, 08:35 AM) *
Looks interesting but what about the audio inputs?

DM


from this quote on the xbox-scene forums
QUOTE (pimpmaul69)
May 26 2006, 04:19 PM
hey denus if you want to solve this real easy ill sell you an adapter i made for 30 buxx.. it has a pc speaker output and the complete vga mod with the lm1881 chip in it.. if you are interested let me know


he seems to be following this Sync On Green route:
QUOTE
Using a sync splitter

If your monitor does not support sync on green you need an additional sync splitter. The sync splitter used here is the LM1881N from National Semiconductor ( http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM1881.html ).

You need to build the same cable as described above. Additionally, build the following circuit:

--> ascii circuit diagram cut out <--

Both methods, pure sync-on-green and sync-splitter, suffer from the fact that the XBox does not deliver VESA compliant sync-on-green signals. The VESA standard requires sync pulses with negative voltage, with the color signal starting at 0 Volt. The XBox, however, cannot produce negativ sync pulses. Instead it uses a positive voltage offset on the green signal with the sync pulses going down to 0 Volt. This may result in a slight colour shift, depending on how well your monitor is able to cope with the voltage offset. Usually dark gray colors will appear slightly green.

One way to solve this problem in hardware is to subtract the sync information from the green signal and deliver the resulting signal to the monitor. Some vendors sell VGA adapters for PS/2 that use this approach, e.g. Blaze (http://www.blaze-gear.com/p2_017.htm). If you replace the PS/2 plug with an XBox AFIP plug the adapter will also work on an XBox.

Another problem is the width of the sync pulses which is fixed by the Conexant mode, i.e. it cannot be modified by software. The higher the pixel clock rate gets the shorter the sync pulses become. It's up to the sync logic in your monitor how well it will cope with the short sync pulses at higher pixclock rates.
Litherish
For audio you can get this cheap thing that plugs into his cable, just search for a "3.5mm Stereo male to 2x RCA Phono Female Adapter". I'm borrowing one from a friend until I get one from ebay.
Litherish
For those interested I forgot to mention you need to have either a soft modded or hard modded Xbox, with a VGA compatible BIOS, pixel8, TATX, X2 5035 and the iND-BiOS 5001 are a few. Don't ask where to get them, you will have to find that yourself wink.gif
brainlock
I take it nobody is concerned about losing the digital audio connector using his cable though...?
Litherish
QUOTE (brainlock @ Jul 21 2006, 06:52 AM) *
I take it nobody is concerned about losing the digital audio connector using his cable though...?

Analog audio is fine for me, and I'd guess its about 80-90% of what most people use. smile.gif
hanginthere
smile.gif I had my Xbox connected to my PJ yesterday and it works like a champ.

I used a progressive scan cable and VDIGI transcoder I bought a while back. My monitor (SAMSUNG 512n) can't handle interlaced signals so 720p is the highest res I can play. The video board in the box does the upconverting with hardware so no drain on the limited CPU of the box. DVD's play perfectly using XBMC and you don't have to buy the add on remote kit.

I was testing file streaming over my network and it was awsome. Using Tivo desktop I download recorded programs to my PC and play them with the Xbox over the network. Watched Dave Chapelle's show with the racial draft for the 50th time and I still laugh out loud! A must see for any Chapelle's Show fan.

right now I have to convert them to MPEG, WAV, TS etc. until I find a codec or program for XBMC that will play Tivo files. The XBMC GUI is really cool for all media sharing. My kids have a ball playing MP3's through the surround sound system that is with the PJ.

I'm not the guy to ask about tech stuff ( I'm learning as I go) but I wanted to let you know it works and it wll work really well with a little time and tinkering.

Almost forgot GAMES! Try letting the kids play the Simpsons car crash game on a 10' screen! You'll giggle your ass off.

X-box scene is the place to get the info you'll need for modding the box and the software you'll need.

Hope this helps,

Hang in there!!
Hazard
I am planning my PJ as well but I have to really recommend using XBMC. However with your xbox vga cable I cant help but wonder if you will lose quality and color compared to the HD cables you could use with an E-Box or something? And if you have a big screen why not play in surround sound?

You can play your games, movies, music, pictures, anything you have on your computer you can play on your big screen via your xbox. Definitely worth checking out. No need to open the Xbox and you can do it in 30 minutes!

http://www.productwiki.com/microsoft_xbox/...30_minutes.html
weldonjb
With the X2VGA+ (at least the one I have), you get optical SPDIF out. I hook mine into my Logitech surround system, and get incredible sound. I see no worries with XBOX PQ or audio. You do get some wifely issues with remotes, though, due to needing to change inputs for digital cable vs. xbox going to your panel. In an earlier situation, I had the Xbox hooked in through the VGA port, the cable box hooked in through the DVI, and an old VCR hooked in through the S-Video.
korndog
if your still intrested in using xbmc and are worried about the cables, look in the trading post. yesterday i posted a link to a magnavox 15" 720p tv w/ no ffc issues for 149 w/ free shipping. and as for xbmc its great. i have an xbox under each of my tvs and i use them to stream files off my naslite file server. xbmc is awsome. for anyone using xbox's with dvd0rom problems im selling rom upgrades. contact me we can work something out.
mcbeat
if you have a modded xbox already you can simply change this
bios to vga more on xbox-scene but this is what i plan on doing
once my projecter is built.

then make a vga cable with SOG if needed

i'l post about it here once i get round to it
DarkMeat
Right now I'm running XBMC and yes it works like a charm the options are endless. My resolution now looks better than a progressive scan dvd player. I can still use my remote to control the xbmx screen almost like a wireless mouse. Opening up the options to play games and movies at higher resolutions really helps.

I only did the softmod so far and I should have a 200g to put in later this week. I'm so happy with it that I would rather buy another xbox and mod it instead of buying another dvd player. I haven't tried the video streaming yet but I'll hopfeully get to that right now my video is runnning through my component cables.

I'm currently using a 15" samsung lcd tv LT-P1545 model it looks better than the 15" magnavox lcd I was using earlier.

DM
orangelmo
I'm using XBMC. The only thing I don't like is that I can't play H264 files properly. The audio is always out of sync with the video especially if you try to fast foward. Other than that I have no problems with it. I'm still going with a HTPC though only because its going to run everything including cable. If you have the DVD playback kit it works good with any harmony remote so controlling it is really easy. If only it could be turned on with it without a mod.
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