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blake
Well, I have almost all of the parts for my projector, just waitin on the box, should be here soon. I have all my other parts for my projector.

Using the 15" CMV Polyview LCD (amazing LCD) with 550:1 contrast ratio and no anti-glare. cool.gif (check)

Standard LL lens kit (check)

LL light kit with the older ushio lamp (check)

All wiring and electrical parts (check)

Nextvision N6 (check)

2 PCAC Evercool fans (check)

Ikea napkin holder for the reflector (waiting on shipment)

Haas style box from TESCORP (waiting on shipment)

Total cost - $860

I figured now would be a good time to start my PLOG seeing as everything is coming together and I'm basically one of the dinosaurs of LL by now laugh.gif. I'll be posting pics next week when I get everything up and running. Man I can't wait to get this thing finished, seems like it's been forever since I first set out to build it. smile.gif
Capt. Video
I too have everything waiting to put in the soon to be here box....but yours should arrive before mine sad.gif
Post pics and your review of the N6 as I have one too and have seen mixed reviews
Good Luck!
SupraGuy
Good to see you finally building Blake! You've been here longer than me!

Looking forward to your results!
comp_atkins
glad to see you're starting! it was your posts over on gs that got me started along this whole pj road in the first place! biggrin.gif
blake
QUOTE (comp_atkins @ Apr 17 2006, 09:59 PM) *
glad to see you're starting! it was your posts over on gs that got me started along this whole pj road in the first place! biggrin.gif


ohmy.gif Seriously?! Wow, glad I could have a good influence on someone! biggrin.gif

(Hey brain, it appears the plug I gave you on Gamespot is working. cool.gif)
blake
Ok guys, gonna be puttin everything together pretty soon, so I figured I'd ask for tips on installing the LCD panel very carefully. I have a seen some people rip their FFC connectors during installation and I can NOT afford to do that right now, so any advice on how to install it while making sure not to ruin anything at all would be most appreciated.

Thanks in advance guys/gals. smile.gif

(if you give me advice I'll post screens from any movie you want next week) (that is if I own the DVD tongue.gif)
SupraGuy
I found it was mostly common sene. Think things through before doing them. Make sure that the LCD fits the way that you want it to.

I always installed my LCD in its frame before installing the frame in the box. Test fit everything so that you don't have to force anything.
blake
QUOTE (SupraGuy @ Apr 18 2006, 03:18 PM) *
I found it was mostly common sene. Think things through before doing them. Make sure that the LCD fits the way that you want it to.

I always installed my LCD in its frame before installing the frame in the box. Test fit everything so that you don't have to force anything.


Ok, I'm an idiot, I totally forgot which way to face the LCD when I install it, any insight you'd mind giving on this? tongue.gif
ChuckL
Can't wait to see your build start!Be very careful with the componants and always measure twice. Work as clean as you can and if you have them wear surgical or rubber gloves when handling the electronics and lenses. Helps to keep them clean
scubasteve2365
QUOTE (blake @ Apr 19 2006, 02:18 AM) *
Ok, I'm an idiot, I totally forgot which way to face the LCD when I install it, any insight you'd mind giving on this? tongue.gif


For nearly every LCD, you simply orient it so that the attached controller board is face up.

All LCDs will have a board that FFCs are permenantly attached to(Samsung 512N for example) or that some FFCs connect through a socket (CMVs for example)

In nearly every case ive seen, simply orient it so that this board is facing upright on the bottom of the enclosure.

The only LCD that doesnt orient this way that I know of is the CMV-520D which might be what you have, in any case is a pain in the arse
blake
QUOTE (scubasteve2365 @ Apr 18 2006, 07:22 PM) *
For nearly every LCD, you simply orient it so that the attached controller board is face up.

All LCDs will have a board that FFCs are permenantly attached to(Samsung 512N for example) or that some FFCs connect through a socket (CMVs for example)

In nearly every case ive seen, simply orient it so that this board is facing upright on the bottom of the enclosure.

The only LCD that doesnt orient this way that I know of is the CMV-520D which might be what you have, in any case is a pain in the arse


Ah yes, now I remember! Thanks for the tip. smile.gif

Hey I just realized, your name is from the movie Big Daddy, GREAT movie, Adam Sandler is awesome.
TESCORP
The way I am making the sled you should have an easy time installing the LCD. BTW, the LCD is oriented in the sled so that when you look into the lens opening ( without the lens) the image is upside down and backwards.
comp_atkins
QUOTE (blake @ Apr 18 2006, 10:18 PM) *
Ok, I'm an idiot, I totally forgot which way to face the LCD when I install it, any insight you'd mind giving on this? tongue.gif


i think typically the side of the panel which you would normally look at if it were not stripped ( the side w/ the a/g ) faces the bulb.
Durachko
QUOTE (comp_atkins @ Apr 19 2006, 02:00 AM) *
i think typically the side of the panel which you would normally look at if it were not stripped ( the side w/ the a/g ) faces the bulb.
I might add if you have a fold the LCD gets flipped front-to-back for each fold. Well, that's not really worded properly. It flips over in the direction of the fold. huh.gif Better stop there! Now I'm confused! tongue.gif

blake: you old dinosaur you - for as long as you've been around Id've thought you would have that info permanently burned into your neural networks. wink.gif (Psssst - there's a section on LCD orientation in my tweaks topic.)
samuraijack
QUOTE (Durachko @ Apr 19 2006, 01:38 PM) *
I might add if you have a fold the LCD gets flipped front-to-back for each fold. Well, that's not really worded properly. It flips over in the direction of the fold. huh.gif Better stop there! Now I'm confused! tongue.gif

blake: you old dinosaur you - for as long as you've been around Id've thought you would have that info permanently burned into your neural networks. wink.gif (Psssst - there's a section on LCD orientation in my tweaks topic.)


Check the WIKI too.
I found that using a plexiglass slug cut to the exact size of your LCD works wonders and it allows you to play around different designs without worrying about your real LCD. It will give you a good fell for how the LCD will sit.

SJ
Mr.Blutarski
QUOTE (samuraijack @ Apr 19 2006, 09:44 AM) *
Check the WIKI too.
I found that using a plexiglass slug cut to the exact size of your LCD works wonders and it allows you to play around different designs without worrying about your real LCD. It will give you a good fell for how the LCD will sit.

SJ


Yes, do this! Don't join the rank of us that have a dead lcd sitting around to use for test building!! Its helpful, but sucks at the same time. Lemonade from lemons I guess! tongue.gif
Bluto
blake
QUOTE (Durachko @ Apr 19 2006, 06:38 AM) *
I might add if you have a fold the LCD gets flipped front-to-back for each fold. Well, that's not really worded properly. It flips over in the direction of the fold. huh.gif Better stop there! Now I'm confused! tongue.gif

blake: you old dinosaur you - for as long as you've been around Id've thought you would have that info permanently burned into your neural networks. wink.gif (Psssst - there's a section on LCD orientation in my tweaks topic.)


laugh.gif I know! I'm terrible man, it was in my ancient archives filed away somewhere. I just didn't feel like sifting through them, too lazy. tongue.gif
SupraGuy
QUOTE (Mr.Blutarski @ Apr 19 2006, 07:45 AM) *
Yes, do this! Don't join the rank of us that have a dead lcd sitting around to use for test building!! Its helpful, but sucks at the same time. Lemonade from lemons I guess! tongue.gif
Bluto

What? You have just one? I have 3!

My CMV529A (The cat killed it. Still have the nonfunctional panel, but no more electronics.)
A Samsung 512N (Arrived damaged in transit. It's been what, 6 months? Still waiting for the post office to process the insurance claim.)
My LG 17" (My wife damaged it slightly. It does still work if you press the edge connector to the glass but I couldn't think of a way to make it reliable in the proector.)

So that's 2 15" panels and 1 17" panel that I have that are useful only as dummy blanks. Well, at least with the exception of hte Samsung, I did manage to get succesful projections from both panels, they were damaged subsequent to removal from their respective projectors. That only makes it suck a little less.

Oops.

To answer the question: If you look at the LCD through the projector's triplet hole (complete with mirrors if applicable) the image should appear to be upside down and backwards. In a "straight shooter" projector this means that the "front" of the LCD faces the lamp, and the top of hte panel (Typically where the edge connectors join to the glass) should be at the bottom of the projector.
blake
QUOTE (SupraGuy @ Apr 19 2006, 08:59 AM) *
What? You have just one? I have 3!

My CMV529A (The cat killed it. Still have the nonfunctional panel, but no more electronics.)
A Samsung 512N (Arrived damaged in transit. It's been what, 6 months? Still waiting for the post office to process the insurance claim.)
My LG 17" (My wife damaged it slightly. It does still work if you press the edge connector to the glass but I couldn't think of a way to make it reliable in the proector.)

So that's 2 15" panels and 1 17" panel that I have that are useful only as dummy blanks. Well, at least with the exception of hte Samsung, I did manage to get succesful projections from both panels, they were damaged subsequent to removal from their respective projectors. That only makes it suck a little less.


Eek, yikes, I definitely don't wanna do that. I can't afford to fry even one. I need to make sure this build goes as smoothly as possible.
TESCORP
This should go smoothly, you gave me accurate measurements of the panel, and with all the help here it should be a breeze. well back to my shop or I wont get anything done, cant seem to stay away from the boards.
blake
Oh boy, my box is coming along quite nicely.... cool.gif

(compliments of TESCORP)





Capt. Video
NIIIICCCEEEE! biggrin.gif Kinda like watching Santa and the Elves making your gifts before you even
get them. LOL
Make sure you get leather, surround sound and power locks tooo!
Guess you should get it in about a week?
WOOOOOT! laugh.gif smile.gif
blake
QUOTE (Capt. Video @ Apr 21 2006, 06:20 AM) *
NIIIICCCEEEE! biggrin.gif Kinda like watching Santa and the Elves making your gifts before you even
get them. LOL
Make sure you get leather, surround sound and power locks tooo!
Guess you should get it in about a week?
WOOOOOT! laugh.gif smile.gif


Hell yah man! Pretty freakin excited! biggrin.gif (oh hey I just uploaded larger images btw cool.gif )
blake
Oh man, I feel like a rich kid on Christmas! biggrin.gif

(TESCORP's wood working skills are superb!)





ChuckL
smile.gif Sweet!
Looking good blake
ReD_DoG
blake it seems you have a good reason to start geting exicited...

that is a freakin NICE BOX!!!!

cant wait for mine now... mines gona be alot smaller but still.

wow its a good looker..
cant wait to see your screen shots..


red
blake
Wondering whether or not if you should buy a TESCORP enclosure? Well I think these will remove all dought. cool.gif







kiranak
QUOTE (blake @ Apr 23 2006, 01:35 AM) *
Wondering whether or not if you should buy a TESCORP enclosure? Well I think these will remove all dought. cool.gif


What is the slot on the side for?
comp_atkins
so does he provide just the box or all the hardware needed to assebmle the thing as well ( bolts, screws, extra suuports, etc ) ?
blake
QUOTE (comp_atkins @ Apr 23 2006, 10:47 AM) *
so does he provide just the box or all the hardware needed to assebmle the thing as well ( bolts, screws, extra suuports, etc ) ?


It comes pre-assembled, no need to assemble anything. smile.gif And kiranak the hole on the side is for the LCD controls.
Herve
QUOTE (blake @ Apr 23 2006, 01:37 PM) *
It comes pre-assembled, no need to assemble anything. smile.gif And kiranak the hole on the side is for the LCD controls.


Blake, I'm watching your project closely. Very nice looking box.

But I thought you were going to use a 17". When I build, I'll probably use a 17, too. Did you decide against it for some reason that I should know about?

Most important - are you having fun?

Next - have you injured yourself yet?
blake
QUOTE (Herve @ Apr 23 2006, 02:02 PM) *
Blake, I'm watching your project closely. Very nice looking box.

But I thought you were going to use a 17". When I build, I'll probably use a 17, too. Did you decide against it for some reason that I should know about?

Most important - are you having fun?

Next - have you injured yourself yet?


Thanks man. smile.gif And I am doing the basic 15" design first because more people have done it. It's usually good to start with the basic design and work your way up, at least for me it is. I will be starting a 17" HD projector as soon as I finish this one. smile.gif

And no, no injuries yet. I'll report if I do get any, so that people don't make the same mistakes. tongue.gif
Mavrick
Thanks Blake!

I have a basic 15” OHP setup now, and have wanted to go to the next step for a while. Trouble was I could never decide on what type of PJ to go with; Vertical or Straight Through. It seems as if the straight through design is the easiest to get working properly, and TESCORP’s Haas enclosures are very well made.

I hope to follow your lead, so go slow and use lots of pictures for dummies like me! tongue.gif



Thanks,

Mavick
ReD_DoG
QUOTE (Herve @ Apr 23 2006, 04:02 PM) *
Blake, I'm watching your project closely. Very nice looking box.

But I thought you were going to use a 17". When I build, I'll probably use a 17, too. Did you decide against it for some reason that I should know about?

Most important - are you having fun?

Next - have you injured yourself yet?



are you having fun and have you injured your self..

WTF

blink.gif

kinda weard questions...

SORRY BLAke But this cought my eyes...

well blake has one leg, two fingers, one glass eyeball, and a mohawk but he dodges punches and bullets prity good.....
we here at LL call him tha lucky gadizzle foshizzle
lol j/k

blake man that box assembled is freakin sweet.
you going 15in?
blake
The box will be here Friday. I'll be sure to get some results pics posted by monday or tuesday. Need to barrow a friend's digital cam as not to get low quality pics. After all this waiting I had better get some high quality pics taken. tongue.gif

( laugh.gif Red)
blake
I just received my box! This thing is absolutely BEAUTIFUL! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif It's even prettier in real life! smile.gif I'll be settin this baby up this weekend and I'll get some results posted soon! smile.gif

(THANK YOU TESCORP!)
blake
I don't even know what to say, I am SO upset right now. I just f**ked over my LCD. I seriously feel like crying. I have no money to buy a replacement either, I just.... don't even know what to say.... almost two god damn years of waiting....
GadgetSmith
Blake, what happened ? are you *sure* you did some irreversible harm ?

sorry,
gs
blake
QUOTE (GadgetSmith @ Apr 28 2006, 01:25 PM) *
Blake, what happened ? are you *sure* you did some irreversible harm ?

sorry,
gs


Well the two little brown FFCs came out of the wrong end, the part where they are soldered onto the control board. sad.gif
Durachko
QUOTE (blake @ Apr 28 2006, 04:27 PM) *
Well the two little brown FFCs came out of the wrong end, the part where they are soldered onto the control board. sad.gif
sad.gif sad.gif No hope at all? sad.gif sad.gif

Just pulled out and not tore? huh.gif
GadgetSmith
QUOTE (blake @ Apr 28 2006, 04:27 PM) *
Well the two little brown FFCs came out of the wrong end, the part where they are soldered onto the control board. sad.gif


Can you post a picture ? It may be possible to correct this if nothing has torn... It would involve creating a clamp to hold the FFC's in their correct place on the circuit board...

gs
blake
QUOTE (Durachko @ Apr 28 2006, 01:37 PM) *
sad.gif sad.gif No hope at all? sad.gif sad.gif

Just pulled out and not tore? huh.gif


Yah it just pulled out I don't think anything tore. Not sure how to get them back the way they were.... Can anyone help?!?! Any ideas?? PLEASE! sad.gif

(and I don't have a digital cam right now sad.gif)
Capt. Video
Go outside....reflect on whats important...then sit down and find a solution.
Nice thing in life is there is almost always a fix to every problem.
The older i get the easier it is to "not give a shit" when crap happens. smile.gif

Next...see if you can get pics posted...this is a great group of home bound brains
that will help with the best possible solution.
anyway im on my second already and i dont even have the box yet...AND
i think they are both somewhat messed up...Oh well.

It may be just as simple as removing the extra solder and redoing it carefully.
Get pics and keep us posted. sad.gif

TAKE A BREAK FROM IT...GET PICS...AND POST!
ABOVE ALL ELSE...RELAX...OR YOU MAY CAUSE DAMAGE THAT MAY NOT BE REVERSED.
Durachko
I'll bet it's fixable. It'll take patience and creativity but it's fixable. Never say never blake. smile.gif

Got a regular camera or can you draw us a pic or simply reflect on it awhile and post a detailed description of what happened and what the damage really is.
comp_atkins
sad.gif

ouch.. sorry about the lcd news.. what does the end of the ffc that came disconnected look like? are there's small pins attached to it that look like they can be re-instered into a socket?

whatever happens, dont let this be the end of your pj.. you've waited too long for this project.... beg borrow and steal ( not literally or course ) for a new LCD if you have too!
Capt. Video
Does anyone have the same lcd?
That may help with pics fast
GadgetSmith
QUOTE (blake @ Apr 28 2006, 04:41 PM) *
Yah it just pulled out I don't think anything tore. Not sure how to get them back the way they were.... Can anyone help?!?! Any ideas?? PLEASE! sad.gif

(and I don't have a digital cam right now sad.gif)


I would suggest making a clamp... two small pieces of hard wood (oak, ash, maple...) and used to make a "sandwich" with the FFC's placed carefully over where they pulled off the board... would probably need something like a thin piece of rubber (gasket material) between the wood and FFC to ensure a more uniform pressure pushing down on the FFC. Would possibly need to drill a couple of small holes though the wood | rubber | FFC | circuit board | wood "sandwich" and use small screws and nuts to keep the pressure on...

maybe you get what i'm saying ? it would be delicate work, and aligning 0.5mm pitched FFC's is no easy chore either, but there is hope... as I said, if it hasn't torn, it's possible...

gs
blake
QUOTE (GadgetSmith @ Apr 28 2006, 01:52 PM) *
I would suggest making a clamp... two small pieces of hard wood (oak, ash, maple...) and used to make a "sandwich" with the FFC's placed carefully over where they pulled off the board... would probably need something like a thin piece of rubber (gasket material) between the wood and FFC to ensure a more uniform pressure pushing down on the FFC. Would possibly need to drill a couple of small holes though the wood | rubber | FFC | circuit board | wood "sandwich" and use small screws and nuts to keep the pressure on...

maybe you get what i'm saying ? it would be delicate work, and aligning 0.5mm pitched FFC's is no easy chore either, but there is hope... as I said, if it hasn't torn, it's possible...

gs


Thanks for the tips, and I was able to take some crappy pics of what it looks like.





Has anyone ever fixed an issue like this before??
OKflyboy
Blake, I know how you feel. Believe me I do, I completely ruined my 1st LCD. (Check out my 1st pj's thread in the project gallery).

Don't give up!!

Read my sig for inspiration. There's a reason I have that as my sig (becuase I needed it!!)
Durachko
So yer ribbon cable(s) pulled out of the connector(s)?

Edit: You ain't kiddin' "crappy" pics!!! laugh.gif
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