I know next to nothing about this bulb...except it is 1000w and is tubular shaped and not too extremely huge, the diameter of it might allow an easier reflector to be made, it actually might work with Norpro. The bulb in the first picture I'm talking about has the gold base.



This second bulb is also a 1000w, I have no information other than that about it, its the one on top.



Heres another pick with the bulb on the left. Good comparison btw what looks to be the BT37


This bulb may be large, but the EYE bulb which was BT37 worked, decent...and this bulb has a smaller diameter. Check out the comparison of regular MH bulbs

Although the arc in comparison btw the BT37 and the tubular huge bulb, it looks like the tubular has a much bigger arc.


The arc on both of the larger lamps appear to be pretty short, a little larger compared to the T15 in the first picture. The diameter looks to be only slightly larger then the T15 bulbs diameter we currently use.
In fact, in the first picture, take a look at the BT37 bulb to the left, look at its arc length approximately, then go right and look at the big tubular bulb, the arcs appear close in size (if I'm not seeing things....) The EYE bulb is a BT37 shape if I remember correctly.

If the arc is able to fit into the pro triplet, and a good reflector can be used with this, then I think its a keeper.
Let the discussion begin,

The EYE bulb that we used (that I still use) is a BT28.

If you don't know anything about this bulb how is this helpful?

The bulb looks like the TT120 style used by the 1000W Eye Hortilux 5500K 92CRI Bulb which is a 1000W, with pretty good color and spectrum. Datasheet

Wait a second...this is the EYE bulb I saw someone use, http://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=354 this ones BT37
I also see http://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=227 BT28

Pagercam? Are you seriously saying that that fat horticulture bulb looks like the one I listed above? Compared to
Is that really realistic?

Not to mention that horticulture puts out 80,000 lumens, and is to fat for a lot of reflectors. And the bulb above is probably over +100,000 lumens AND can be used with a reflector (most likely).

And I did not intend to mean I didn't know ANYTHING about the bulb, I know where to buy it and some random tables I looked at had some figures about it, I'll try to find it.

And the horticulture bulb says "blue" so I seriously doubt it will look good, it has a CRI of 92, its probably heavily blue and little red or green.

EYE is a brand, I think their real name Iwaski or something like that.

However, the term "EYE" bulb kinda get labled around here as an expression for one specific bulb, and that was the 400W BT28 lamp.

Its kinda like someone drinking an off brand cola, and calling it a "coke"

but to be technically correct, EYE is a manufacturer, just like USHIO, and they make several lamps of different shapes and sizes

You don'y know what that is a picture of.
I was just trying to help, guess I shouldn't have bothered, I'll know better next time.
If you look at the datasheet you'll see that it has the best spectrum I've seen yet. It seems that good color and high brightness don't go together, you gotta choose one of the other.

Sorry if I came off harsh, but the truth of my comparison is very real.

Alright, since you want some data of the bulb above I'll show what I've found, the bulb were looking at is the 6th one down, TTT/ED180/BT180, at least I think it is, almost positive though.
(ImageShack is being dumb, just click the link http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7030/exl050hu.jpg )

I do stand corrected though according to the lumens btw horticulture and this tubular bulb, it looks like its only around 76,000 lumens, but it is not as fat...so using a reflector you might get an extra 20,000

I think i would use the analogy of

someone drinking a cherry coke and calling it a coke

that would work too, but in my part of the country, if your drinking any type of Soda its called a coke.

You could be drinking minute maid orange, it people still call it a coke.

Ummm . . . I admit to not being very well travelled . . . but . . . where in the heck DO you live? Must make for real confusion when ordering in a restaurant. Reminds me of the old SNL skit "No Coke . . . Pepsi". Or have I got that bass ackwards?

I think that is a pretty standard tradeoff.... I've been looking at a lot of bulbs, and anything thats not a "normal" temp bulb(4000-4200 k) is usually 20% lower in lumens no matter the wattage , the iwasaki is a good example.... I would guess it has to do with different salts they add to produce the braoder spectrum

This is interesting. Elbaghast said he is using a grow lamp, so I did a search for grow lamps.

Look what I found? Not the nicest color temperature but look at the arc size? The dimensions of that bulb exactly match my 400 watt home depot bulb. So I took a pic of mine, and blew it up the same size, to compare. The 1000 watt arc looks the same size, possibly a bit smaller. My home depot bulb has and arc length of 2 inches (measuring outside to outside) The clear part is about 1.5 inches. This lamp costs only 56 dollars. (supposedly a sale price but thats often just a marketing trick).

http://www.elights.com/methal10unbu1.html

Brand: Philips or Sylvania
Bulb: BT37
Watts: 1000
Life Hours: 10,000
Base: Mogul
MOL: 11 1/2"
Intial Lumens: 110,000
Color Temp. (CCT or K): 3,700

Ansi Spec: M47/E

CRI: 65

LCL: 7

Case Quantity: 6

If that pic is accurate, this might work.

Good find. The colour temp is a bit low at 3700, so it'll be a very warm tone projection, but it'll be bright.

The only thing I'm questioning is the pic. Is it accurate? Or just a general idea pic? Most of the bulbs here look exactly the same. http://www.elights.com/1000mh.html Note the arc size is not mentioned in the specs. Going to see if I can find out.

(edit) Well I just sent them an email asking if the pics are of the actual product. I'll be suprised if they respond...

The bulb you bought at the Home Despot looks to be in the ED37 flavor. And that 1000w is BT37 so I'd assume that the picture is accurate given the written data. This bulb http://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=584 is pretty much the same bulb with a better color temperature. I'd be interested as to whether anyone has used the BT-37 lamp compared to the huge BT56.

I just realized that if you have used that ED-37 Home Despot bulb with all the light going into the triplet, then the 1000w BT-37 will work perfectly, I don't know how to do the math but I'd assume a lot of lumens would be thrown onto the screen.

Wow after about an hour of making this with paint, here it is


Stunned? Dis-believing? So was I.

Here is the link to the 1000w bulb if you want to try the BT37 1000w setup EDIT: benjimatt Is doing this as we speak.

http://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=584

By the way, Mikau pretty much discovered this, I just validified it.
WIDTH OF ARCS ARE NOT COMPARABLE AS THE IMAGE WAS SCALED, ONLY HEIGHT IS ACCURATE.

We will never have too much light with 5% transmitting LCDs and plastic overhead fresnels.

Nice find, one of you wealthy people *cough* lucky*cough* try it .

Thats true, except you might get around 1000 lumens or more, and I'd say thats way to bright, for me at least.

Its actually not that expensive, about 43$ for the bulb, 63$ for the ballast, and shipping costs. So the lighting kit at LL is much more expensive comparitively. Except you will have to make your box wider, maybe around 17 In wide, ...hold on, thats how wide my box is right now but it makes sense because my bulbs length is also 11" long.

the center of that bulb is at 8.5 inches?

HOT DAMN! Brilliant job, Litherish! That bulb has a much nicer color temperature! Nice price too! Did I give you the picture comparing idea?

Yes sir you did ! I looked at your comparison and was filled with the urge to make a diagram, so I did, I seriously never expected to come up with those results!

Ummm.... ...nice catch, its actually at 7 inches, so 14" wide box. But you'll still have to add in the mogul, so I'd assume its still gonnna be around 16-17" right?

I wouldn't trust the picture they may just take stock photo's. I can’t find it on eye site but who knows. The best way is to call the people selling the lamp and ask them to look at it. Is the tube as big as a cigarette?

I was talking to some one at eye the other day about a different lamp. The web site said 42mm arc tube but the guy selling the lamp said it's 80mm[he had it in his hand] the lady at eye had no clue. Like so many places they don't really know anything about what they sell. I asked her about OEM lamps they sell to others, again no clue.

The 9,000 hour life is a good indication of a short arc tube.

There is one more place that looked like they may have it.

http://www.lightingquotes.com/catalog.php?product=584

Not quite. The lamp screws INTO the mogul, so it only depends on the thickness. I think my projector is 15.5 inches and the home depot bulb worked fine if I screwed the mogul directly to the side of the projector. (elliminating the adjustable lamp mount :-( )

but I agree with Arizona, might not be a real pic. Needs to be verified first. Arizona you say short life suggests small arc?

Yeah, you make some very good points, that light you linked to, I also blew it up and compared the arc btw the ED28, and got the same results, of course this doesn't mean much as it wasn't exactly a high rez comparison. I just sent out an e-mail to 1000bulbs.com , if I don't get a response soon I'll call them.

I actually think that it depends on where the center of your arc is on your bulb.
Alright, time to get some sleep, then off to jail (school)

I called 1000bulbs.com the 1000 watt eye lamp has a 5" arc tube I bet it is just like the one I have hear 92mm x 35mm arc tube. the picture is wrong.

Dang...

In a short while I will know for a FACT that the arc WILL fit inside the standard triplet, just waiting for something, then I'll make another diagram, that will prove it. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I just have a feeling that it will work.

Just found a BT37 with a 42mm arc, its 400w with 42,000 lumens. http://www.eyelighting.com/tb/MH/multimeta...52-78-52533.pdf

Wow, never realized it'd be easy to find a short arc high wattage lamp, http://www.eyelighting.com/tb/MH/multimeta...52-78-51605.pdf
This is a retrofit HPS bulb, so color temperature is correct at a CRI of 60, and 4200k color temperature. Only drawback is that its enormus at 15.38" long. Oh yeah....its also 80$ for the bulb, then another 120$ new for the ballast. Although I found the ballast for 50$ on eBay, so the total price comes to 130$ + shipping, still cheaper then the LL lighting kit, and you will have a VERY BRIGHT projection, easily watchable during the day.

You might want to look at this thread from last week

http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9834

That lamp has the wrong arc length[It is for a 400 watt]. I asked them to fix it and it looks like they got there two best guys right on it

I cheked the tracking on my bulb and it looks like it came in today. and i dont have any homework. so i get home at about 6:00 or 6:30 right now its almost 2:00. so i will be getting some pictures of the bulb and i will most likely test out the bulb on the big screen.

Much thanks man!

Do 1000bulbs ship to the UK (or anywhere outside continental US)? I had a look on the FAQ page and such, but couldn't find anything. These lamps don't seem to be sold by any UK suppliers (not that I could find via google, anyway).

I went by a lighting store today. They have a 1000 watt MH + ballast for $200 with tax.

Man the bulb is HUGE. About 12" long and FAT .... Like around 8" thick.

I couldn't find any specs on the Bulb. It was marked HG R1000W/U