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Chad N.
post Jan 11 2006, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (Litherish @ Jan 10 2006, 09:18 PM) *
I hate to break it to you Chad, but the Microsoft Component cables are NOT accepted in the Xbox community, they actually recommend using cheap generic ones, or the Monster cables. That might be part of your problem, looks like you did a nice exstensive study on the N6 though, not sure why...lol....you could have just said N6 sucks and has bad ghosting and red color issues.


Yes, from everything I have read (a lot), the official Microsoft cables are indeed highly reccomended....I have never heard anything to the contrary. But anyways, I used other high quality RCA cables on a DVD player and the N6 did the same thing.

I did such an extensive study because I paid $170 for a video processor that sucks. laugh.gif
Just wanted to save other people some money and time.

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post Jan 12 2006, 01:40 AM
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I didn't mean any offense to you Chad! but I was looking through the forums on www.xbox-scene.com and some said the Microsoft component cables weren't very good, and others seemed to agree. They had a comparison of generic v monster v microsoft somewhere but I don't remember the link, I'll try to find it.

As of now, the cheapest way to get 720p and 1080i scaled to your projector is through an N6, people may look at this and be partially swayed against it, but what other options do they have?

I think people should be looking more into LCD TVs, they come with many inputs, so an N6 wouldn't be needed, unless you plan on scaling anything to 720p/1080i. The main reason people are thrown off buying an LCD TV is the price tag, but think about it this way, if your going to spend about 150$ for a regular VGA input LCD, then if you plan on hooking your Xbox w/e to it, you'll need some sort of pass through. Ranging from 50-200 or even more. So thats a possible 200-350 for your monitor. Thats usually the price range of an LCD TV 15", maybe even a 17"


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post Jan 12 2006, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE (Litherish @ Jan 11 2006, 05:40 PM) *
I think people should be looking more into LCD TVs, they come with many inputs, so an N6 wouldn't be needed


A couple things you've gotta keep in mind:

1) Buyer beware -- not all LCD-TV's handle 720p/1080i

2) The quality of the LCD's on-board tuner isn't automatically better or worse than an N6

The upside of having an N6 is that now if I wanna upgrade my LCD, I can pick based on raw LCD performance (without being limited by models with the right tuner capabilities). I opted for an LCD-TV (Samsung 150MP), and the trade-off between price and inputs was fair-at-best LCD specs (25ms response time - other, more expensive LCD-TV's are better).

Curious thing, though -- composite video looks WAY better being scaled through the N6 than by my LCD-TV. I'll be able to compare HD this weekend smile.gif

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post Jan 12 2006, 06:30 AM
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dont forget, with an lcd tv you have to have everything plug into the projector. with the viewsonic you can run one cable to the projector and then plug everything into the viewsonic that is 20 feet away.


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post Jan 12 2006, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (Litherish @ Jan 11 2006, 07:40 PM) *
I didn't mean any offense to you Chad!

As of now, the cheapest way to get 720p and 1080i scaled to your projector is through an N6, people may look at this and be partially swayed against it, but what other options do they have?


No offense taken biggrin.gif .
When dealing with 720P and 1080i on the N6, there are fewer problems. Its mainly in 480P that you see the horrible ghosting and bad color processing. Plus, when feeding it an interlaced signal, you get "motion lines".

I am using a transcoder for 480P, and will probably buy a TVbox9 or something to handle interlaced signals. With both having VGA input passthroughs, I should be able to hook my computer, transcoder, and TVbox9 all up at the same time.

And then there's the Xbox 360. I just found out in another thread that with the VGA cable it will scale HD to many resolutions (including 1024 x 768). No need for any video processing then!

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post Jan 12 2006, 09:22 PM
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I have a question about the N6!

For the pc monitor i have and will get stripped for that projector.. best resolution is 1024...

Is he n6 the best choice to get my home dvd video into the n6 and run the pc at 1024? or do you have better solution to get good video quality! i wil mainly use the projector for movies.. and don't want to use my PC to play them!

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post Jan 13 2006, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (Spat @ Jan 12 2006, 03:22 PM) *
I have a question about the N6!

For the pc monitor i have and will get stripped for that projector.. best resolution is 1024...

Is he n6 the best choice to get my home dvd video into the n6 and run the pc at 1024? or do you have better solution to get good video quality! i wil mainly use the projector for movies.. and don't want to use my PC to play them!

Thanks


If your DVD player is progressive scan (red, green, blue connections), then the highest quality solution outside of a PC is a transcoder. You can buy one for $60 at Vdigi.com.

If your DVD player is not progressive scan, then the best cheaper video processor found has been the Avermedia TVbox9.

Both of these devices produce a superior quality image to the N6 and are cheaper.
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post Jan 14 2006, 03:46 AM
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I'm looking for a way to go from my VGA connector on my video card to output component to my LCD TV. As my LCD TV has only one complaint, no VGA.


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post Jan 14 2006, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE (Litherish @ Jan 13 2006, 06:46 PM) *
I'm looking for a way to go from my VGA connector on my video card to output component to my LCD TV. As my LCD TV has only one complaint, no VGA.

Which video card do you have my nVidia can generate component, I think many ATIs can as well just requires a special cable to get the right connectors but the card can generate the require YPrPb signals.
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post Jan 14 2006, 05:14 PM
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Geforce FX5600 256mb, in the rig I'm using closest to where my projector is. If that one will not work do you think a Geforce 6800 will?


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post Jan 15 2006, 03:16 AM
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Which brand and model?
My Fx6600 does composite, s-video and component out thru this connector.

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post Jan 18 2006, 01:57 AM
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Oh yeah, mine has that thingy that you circled on it. So mine should work for outputing component to my LCD.


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post Jan 18 2006, 02:12 AM
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Now I gotta go find that cable that came with my video card 3 years ago...great.....


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