 Blackout cloth, A good inexpensive screen |
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 Apr 20 2005, 08:37 PM
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 I Should Be Working  Group: Customer Posts: 118 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 4834  |
Is it possible for me to buy one piece of blackout cloth that is 150" x 84"??
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Apr 26 2005, 04:52 AM
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Obsessive Compulsive Group: Customer Posts: 57 Joined: 26-December 04 Member No.: 4387 |
QUOTE (brouxman @ Apr 20 2005, 08:37 PM) Is it possible for me to buy one piece of blackout cloth that is 150" x 84"??  i believe you can buy that only from the lumenlab store. from joanne, you can only get a width of 54" |
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May 29 2005, 04:14 PM
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Still Here Group: Customer Posts: 44 Joined: 4-October 04 Member No.: 2877 |
Wondering on what the best way to attach two sheets of blackout cloth together. I see some people use duct tape without much luck. Also as for joeann fabrics, there is a 40% off cupon in the sunday newspaper adds every week. Helps a bit with the price.
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May 30 2005, 12:18 AM
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 I Should Be Working Group: Customer Posts: 72 Joined: 14-March 05 From: Snohomish, WA Member No.: 5811 |
QUOTE (rkremser @ May 29 2005, 09:14 AM) Wondering on what the best way to attach two sheets of blackout cloth together. I see some people use duct tape without much luck. Also as for joeann fabrics, there is a 40% off cupon in the sunday newspaper adds every week. Helps a bit with the price. Member dergin built one and detailed some info in his plog. I got luck 96" x 54" is 16:9 and 72" X 54" (~80" diag") is 4:3 standard BO comes on 54" rolls. http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6248&hl= -------------------- zroth@lumenlab.com
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Aug 16 2005, 08:04 PM
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Help Desk Group: Customer Posts: 283 Joined: 29-March 05 From: Ashland KY Member No.: 6038 |
I wonder what the widest width you can get those old vinyl pull down shades in.... the kind that has the annouing spring in it that when you pulled on it a little it would wind itself back up.
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Aug 17 2005, 01:32 PM
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 I Should Be Working Group: Customer Posts: 121 Joined: 12-May 04 From: Schenectady, NY Member No.: 1122 |
Home Depot and Lowes has them in 6.5 feet lengths. I tried a sample of one a while back and found the front side to be way too glossy but the backside worked surprisingly well. They're under 30 bucks... you should give one a shot if you dont mind the size.
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Aug 24 2005, 01:30 AM
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Help Desk Group: Customer Posts: 283 Joined: 29-March 05 From: Ashland KY Member No.: 6038 |
Largest I could find local was 73" wide by 78" long (give or take some as it also had fractions of an inch as well on the measurements, I just rounded down)
$29 @ lowes They had a couple different colors...wel not really colors more like tinges of color.... grey, white and off white.. -------------------- The results are in! Check out my LL projector!
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Jul 1 2006, 12:12 AM
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Enlightened Group: Customer Posts: 424 Joined: 20-January 06 Member No.: 11035 |
QUOTE (nintari @ Aug 24 2005, 01:30 AM) Largest I could find local was 73" wide by 78" long (give or take some as it also had fractions of an inch as well on the measurements, I just rounded down) $29 @ lowes They had a couple different colors...wel not really colors more like tinges of color.... grey, white and off white.. Is the blackout cloth from the lumenlab store 110 inches wide? I assume it can be folded without permanent wringles? |
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Jul 5 2006, 01:05 AM
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Enlightened Group: Customer Posts: 424 Joined: 20-January 06 Member No.: 11035 |
QUOTE (dracul2006 @ Jul 1 2006, 12:12 AM) Is the blackout cloth from the lumenlab store 110 inches wide? I assume it can be folded without permanent wringles? anyone? |
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Jul 5 2006, 03:48 AM
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 I Should Be Working Group: Guest Member Posts: 94 Joined: 15-June 06 From: Hills of West Virginia Member No.: 13405 |
I found that you can iron Blackout cloth using a dry Iron (No Steam) on a low heat setting. Iron the back side not the fine suede that you project on.
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Jul 7 2006, 04:18 PM
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Still Here Group: Customer Posts: 32 Joined: 5-February 06 Member No.: 11307 |
anyone have any luck cleaning the LL DIY screen? I finally got mine up and I guess it got smudged a few times. Nothing big, but would like to get it cleaned nonetheless. Also it is on the fine suede side, which I assume is the correct side, or at least the one that is preferred...
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Jul 8 2006, 02:04 AM
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I Should Be Working Group: Guest Member Posts: 94 Joined: 15-June 06 From: Hills of West Virginia Member No.: 13405 |
I use suede cleaner that you buy in the shoe polish section. I have read some forums where they cleaned small sections at a time with mild soap and water.
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Jul 9 2006, 12:30 AM
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Enlightened Group: Customer Posts: 424 Joined: 20-January 06 Member No.: 11035 |
QUOTE (knightrider @ Jul 8 2006, 02:04 AM) I use suede cleaner that you buy in the shoe polish section. I have read some forums where they cleaned small sections at a time with mild soap and water. So is the LL screen 110 inches wide on the roll? Can I use this screen to make a 10 foot wide 4:3 screen? |
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Jul 9 2006, 06:31 AM
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 A Lot of Pips! Group: Global Moderator Posts: 1629 Joined: 18-November 04 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 3589 |
QUOTE (dracul2006 @ Jul 8 2006, 04:30 PM) So is the LL screen 110 inches wide on the roll? Can I use this screen to make a 10 foot wide 4:3 screen? Yes, Yes. But I wouldn't recommend its a larger screens are less bright (less light/sq inch) and brightness is already a problem. |
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Jul 9 2006, 11:46 PM
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Enlightened Group: Customer Posts: 424 Joined: 20-January 06 Member No.: 11035 |
QUOTE (pagercam @ Jul 9 2006, 06:31 AM) Yes, Yes. But I wouldn't recommend its a larger screens are less bright (less light/sq inch) and brightness is already a problem. 10 feet wide is to wide? What do you mean i see so many here who have 10 foot wide screens with success. |
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Jul 10 2006, 11:03 AM
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 A Lot of Pips! Group: Global Moderator Posts: 2653 Joined: 14-February 05 From: Charlton, NY Member No.: 5331 |
dracul,
pagercam was only making a recommendation to you. keeping your screen size smaller will mean a brighter (higher lux) projection. In the end it will be where you place it and how much ambient light it will be subjected to. If you have a light controlled environment you can easily get good brightness for a 100-140" screen (well... for me anyway...  )gs -------------------- Beer... not just for breakfast anymore.
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Jul 10 2006, 10:11 PM
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 A Lot of Pips! Group: Global Moderator Posts: 4816 Joined: 20-January 05 From: Alberta, Canada Member No.: 4880 |
Just for clarification...
When people are talking image size, it's usually a diagonal measurement. Obviously you could not make a screen 120" wide on 110" material. However, a 120" image is (Assuming 4:3 Aspect Ratio) 96" wide and 72" tall. Of course in terms of maxium image size the 110" BOC gives opportunities for a 182" 4:3 image, (146" by 109.5") or a 220" 16:9 (192" by 108") screens.  So fitting a 120" screen is EASY.Fitting a 10' wide screen (120"X90") screen is also possible. Now the part that those of you who know me have been waiting for. More math... How Big Is That? The simple answer is this: 150" diagonal screen is 120" by 90" for 10,800 square inches. The 120" diagonal screen is 96" by 72" for a total of 6,480 square inches. This means that if you were to take the brightness of the projection on the 120" diagonal screen as "1.0" the brightness of the 150" diagonal screen would have a value of "0.6" -------------------- -- In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
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Jul 11 2006, 11:40 AM
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 Help Desk Group: Customer Posts: 325 Joined: 3-February 06 Member No.: 11276 |
Nice post Supra
One thing I noticed over the past 8 months of reading is that many people say the screen can actually be too big to watch comfortably. My screen is 54"x96" (mainly because of the Joann Fabrics material size) and most think the picture is perfect. This is also true as I am using the 15" LCD PJ. I guess this affects the picture quality at a size larger than that. Also, after people watch it for a while they tend to migrate further away from the picture. This makes it more comfortable to watch. Huge pictures without alot of room probably is not desireable. I am glad I did not make the screen bigger. Believe me the picture is amazing and big enough. Just my two cents! |
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Jan 14 2007, 12:23 AM
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I Should Be Working Group: Guest Member Posts: 174 Joined: 6-November 06 From: Kent, England Member No.: 20608 |
I was just wondering about the material.
I found some blackout cloth on ebay (not easy to find anywhere else) they said it was acrylic backed, but I have now received it and I don't think it is. It is very white, material side on one side, but on the other it feels kind of "fury" / soft. Not smooth like plastic I was expecting. Is this the wrong stuff? or should it be like this? I think I might need to return it. Thanks for your help. -------------------- HDTV Lounge - HDTV Reviews & Information
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Jan 14 2007, 04:52 AM
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Still Here Group: Guest Member Posts: 44 Joined: 8-November 06 Member No.: 20746 |
QUOTE (Ma2T @ Jan 13 2007, 06:23 PM) I was just wondering about the material. I found some blackout cloth on ebay (not easy to find anywhere else) they said it was acrylic backed, but I have now received it and I don't think it is. It is very white, material side on one side, but on the other it feels kind of "fury" / soft. Not smooth like plastic I was expecting. Is this the wrong stuff? or should it be like this? I think I might need to return it. Thanks for your help. My blackout cloth has a soft, fabric side and works wonderfully. In fact, anything that looks or feels like plastic will hotspot anyway. A little fibre is good for projectors and your diet. This post has been edited by klover: Jan 14 2007, 04:53 AM |
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May 27 2007, 05:34 PM
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Lab Rat Group: Guest Member Posts: 1 Joined: 27-May 07 Member No.: 30029 |
the blackout fabric from walmart is the same that you will find in any fabric store (ROC-LON blackout liner) except that its pre cut and sewn edge for different sizes, where as most fabric stores only have a width of 54"
MIND YOU....the ones at walmart will be panels unless you get the patio size which is 105x80 i used the 73x78 vinyl blackout stuff from lowes...grey color, it works great except for being actual vinyl (rips) and that it has major creases in it (ones that cant be steam out) they are like small lines get the blackout fabric, paint it, stretch it, frame it, dione This post has been edited by filmmakerfx: May 27 2007, 05:37 PM |
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Sep 1 2007, 02:56 PM
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Lab Rat Group: Guest Member Posts: 5 Joined: 30-July 07 Member No.: 31188 |
I am currently in posession of some 110" seamless blackout cloth. Please let me know if anyone needs some. I am running a special for Lumenlab and AVS forum members. I am selling 110" X 195" blackout cloth which give you a max 16:9 image of 223" diagonal for $78 plus actual shipping costs, for forum members only.
I am a lumen lab customer and an AVS forum member. I do not want to step on any toes at either place. I do not think that this DIY material is competing with anything that Lumenlab sells. Please let me know if anyone would like to get some of this material. I run DIY HOME THEATER SCREENS ebay store. or you can send me a message on this board. I am running my 15" DIY PJ with LL parts and a 223" blackout cloth screen. I would like to thank everyone who puts time into these forums, I love every bit of this new hobby. I also love watching matrix when Neo walks into the military building, at 223" diagonal Thanks, Mark This post has been edited by jkr1100: Sep 1 2007, 02:57 PM |
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Dec 9 2007, 03:03 PM
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 I Should Be Working Group: Customer Posts: 194 Joined: 9-December 05 From: Lunenburg, Nova Scotia Member No.: 10118 |
I thought I would post a few photos of what a projections looks on either side of BO cloth.
The left side is the smooth and slightly fuzzy side. On my particular cloth, it is a very light blue in colour. The right side is the bright white side. I find that the left side has improved blacks but the right side has improved colour. If your projector is suffering from blacks and you have ample lumens I would go with the left side. 
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Dec 9 2007, 03:06 PM
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I Should Be Working Group: Customer Posts: 194 Joined: 9-December 05 From: Lunenburg, Nova Scotia Member No.: 10118 |
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Dec 9 2007, 03:07 PM
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I Should Be Working Group: Customer Posts: 194 Joined: 9-December 05 From: Lunenburg, Nova Scotia Member No.: 10118 |
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