New 1080p "hd Fury", HDCP stripper for all lcd panels through HDMI to VGA + others Options

[Cold Steel]

The following is something that has just hit the market. It converts a hdcp 1080p signal to a usable non hdcp 1080p signal.
I really think this will be a significant help for all us LL'rs who need to use hdmi output to be converted to a vga lcd or tv that uses vga inputs.

Make - model: Silicon Image's "1080P HDFury" Link

What is HDfury ?

HDfury is a tiny external add-on card/adapter that you can hook up on any RGB display through its SUB-D HD15 Female Input.
Once screwed, it becomes a "part of the display" itself and will permanently perform an outstanding HDCP modification. Therefore, you can connect any HDMI source in Full HD 1080p to your now "enhanced" display hooked up with the HDfury module !

Pros: cost - 130.00 (not bad for a hdcp stripper, IMO)

Benefits: Use this on a 1080P capable lcd or tv that doesn't have HDCP built in. Use your PS3 in 1080P

++++HDfury will be available in 3 editions:

(HDfury Module is the same in any editions only the supplied cable is different, therefor anyone who need the module only can get his hands on any editions)

Cable is ALWAYS optionnal, for example VGA Xtender is supplied in case your display have tiny space and a backpanel, you may need to use the VGA xtender so your back panel can fit back correctly

- BLUE : Standard Edition (RGB/VGA display with SUB-D HD15 FEMALE input)
HDfury & VGA > VGA Xtender (10-15cm) [SUB-D HD15 FEMALE/MALE]

- GREEN : Marquee/NEC Edition (5x BNC FEMALE input display)
HDfury & VGA > 5x BNC Xtender (10-15cm) [SUB-D HD15 FEMALE/5x BNC MALE]

- RED : Barco Edition (DB9p FEMALE input display)
HDfury & VGA > DB9p Xtender (10-15cm) [SUB D HD15 FEMALE/DB9p MALE

HDFury Video in action.

This post has been edited by Cold Steel: May 27 2007, 04:18 AM

[jonjandran]

It hasn't hit the market yet. Still in development and pre-order only.

Also the price keeps going up on it.

We'll see if/when it gets here.

As you can see I mentioned it back when it was first announced in March. And it was available for pre-order then and was supposed to ship on March 31.

http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=219912

Hopefully they deliver on their promises.

This post has been edited by jonjandran: May 27 2007, 12:50 PM

[Cold Steel]

I should have done a search first. sry. I was so excited about something halfway decent to get rid of the hdcp problem so I could locate a tv or lcd the size I want.
btw. thanks for your link post.

I am also thinking about using this in conjunction with a Dobie controller and a 17 inch 1080p panel. It should work shouldn't it???

This post has been edited by Cold Steel: May 27 2007, 03:12 PM

[jonjandran]

I should have done a search first. sry. I was so excited about something halfway decent to get rid of the hdcp problem so I could locate a tv or lcd the size I want.
btw. thanks for your link post.

I am also thinking about using this in conjunction with a Dobie controller and a 17 inch 1080p panel. It should work shouldn't it???

It should work fine. Over at the AVS forums it is getting a lot of interest so maybe it will finally come out and be what everyone needs

[Death Ray J]

Info direct from the manufacturer.

HDfury will be shipping monday 21 May 05

MSRP (Maximum Suggested Retail Price) for HDfury is 130 Euros

Resellers/ Group buyers may purcahse 100 units at 65 euros or 1000 units at 50 euros

HD Fury in action:

http://www.hkmod.com/HDfury.wmv

[computercowboy]

Info direct from the manufacturer.

HDfury will be shipping monday 21 May 05

MSRP (Maximum Suggested Retail Price) for HDfury is 130 Euros

Resellers/ Group buyers may purcahse 100 units at 65 euros or 1000 units at 50 euros

I joined the mailing list and they sent me an email the other day confirming this. This would be a good thing for the WXGA or WUXGA owners but I wonder what would happen if you put the 720p or 1080p signal into a 4:3 or 5:4 monitor, the product states it puts out what it gets in so it will be grate for the owners of the winmate controllers which will letter box the 16:9 content on the 16:10 panel, for the synaps, norwood or x2gen WXGA guys the controller will likely distort the image slightly (vertical streatch) for all other types of panels like 1280x1024 I think some sort of vga scaller would need to come into play because if you put a 720p signal into a panel like that it would probably look like crap (massive vertical stretch)

I am still waiting on the Kontron thing, a full digital signal is superior. If I can't get an HDCP compliant board for the Sharp panel I have I will probably scrap the 1080p project I have been planning.

Once you buy a WUXGA panel a controller a pro kit, lighting and all that and an hdfury you have spent almost enought to get into a commercial 1080p DLP projector.

[freefall]

Hey CC I've been telling my wife you can't touch a 1080p projector for under $6000. So you be quiet about that.

This post has been edited by freefall: May 28 2007, 03:32 AM

[1080p]

How does jonjandran play his xbox 360 on his 1080p pj then?

[jonjandran]

How does jonjandran play his xbox 360 on his 1080p pj then?

You don't need an Hdcp stripper for component or Vga. No Hdcp on those. Only Hdmi and Dvi has Hdcp.

[1080p]

You don't need an Hdcp stripper for component or Vga. No Hdcp on those. Only Hdmi and Dvi has Hdcp.

Im confused. So if I want to plug my Xbox 360 into my 15.4 controller via the dvi port it won't work at 1080p?

[jonjandran]

Im confused. So if I want to plug my Xbox 360 into my 15.4 controller via the dvi port it won't work at 1080p?

If you have the Elite Xbox 360 with Hdmi outputs you can play games at 1080p but not Hd-Dvd movies and standard Dvds won't be upconverted past 480p. Thank Hdcp for this.

But you can use a component cable and 1080p will work fine.

[1080p]

So this little thing is sposed to make playback over dvi work @ 1080p?

[Cold Steel]

So this little thing is sposed to make playback over dvi work @ 1080p?

Actually it's not hooked to dvi but to vga (analog RGB). It accepts dvi input to the HDFury then it attaches to the vga input of your monitor.
Here is a quote from their site:

"Permanent HDCP Modification Kit
HDCP compliance for any RGB display

Add a HD(720p)&Full HD(1080p) Digital Input (HDCP/HDMI) to any Analog RGB display !

HDfury is an amazing tiny device designed to outperform any HDCP stripper.

Picture quality through HDfury is the best possible that you can reach:
- Shortest RGB analog link as possible.
- Gold plated materials.
- Ultra Fast IC > 1.65Gbs Bandwidth (over the 1080p limit !)

It is fully compatible (HD&Full HD - 720p/1080p) with any HDMI sources such as HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, PS3, X360 Elite, HDTV cable box, HDTV SAT box or HDMI graphic card.

HDfury solves the BLACK SCREEN issue on Playstation 3 !

Any RGB display hooked up with HDfury can display a 720p or 1080p (HD & Full HD) visual fury !
It transforms any RGB display into a HDCP compliant device.

Compatible with PC monitors, HDTV, Video/Retro projectors, LCD, Plasma

HDfury is an external Add On Card for your RGB display !
Its a Plug&Play answer to any HDMI/HDCP compliance issue !
It will enhance your display's life time and its trade price !

- HDCP rules compliant: no end-user easy access to decrypted analog video.
Once screwed, this module becomes "a part of the display itself".
The HDfury module is DIRECTLY screwed to the back of the RGB display (where SUB-D15 VGA port stand)." end quote.

This post has been edited by Cold Steel: Jun 4 2007, 04:08 PM

[Cold Steel]

I found this information on the Dell 1702 fp. This information should allow the 1702fp to have a 1080p resolution ??

Screen Resolutions
1280 x 1024 at 60 Hz
Highest preset resolution :1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz
Highest addressable resolution: 1600 x 1200 at 60 Hz (UXGA)

What ya think guys.

[jonjandran]

I found this information on the Dell 1702 fp. This information should allow the 1702fp to have a 1080p resolution ??

Screen Resolutions
1280 x 1024 at 60 Hz
Highest preset resolution :1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz
Highest addressable resolution: 1600 x 1200 at 60 Hz (UXGA)

What ya think guys.

Umm no it won't have a 1080p resolution. 1080p is 1920x1080 no more , no less.

[Cold Steel]

Wouldn't it be possible but have black bars. With
this resolution. 1600 x 1200

[jonjandran]

Wouldn't it be possible but have black bars. With
this resolution. 1600 x 1200

No if you tried to put a 1920x1080 signal to that Lcd it would say "out of range". if you send it a 1600x1200 signal it would "downscale" it to 1280x1024.

[computercowboy]

Hey CC I've been telling my wife you can't touch a 1080p projector for under $6000. So you be quiet about that.

That is a pretty high number, there are quite a few commercial 1080p PJs on the market now with a street price of around $3,500. The new optoma one is quite well rated and comes with a very nice scaller for the CIH/Anamorphic guys. BenQ also has a very compedative price on their 1080p PJ, I am talkin' top notch stuff also, 3 Chip DLP.

I don't know your wife so my knowledge of the market status shouldn't be a problem.

[freefall]

CC I have only seen one. I was just buzzing through web pages. I have kept my cost down to les than $2k including the sreen and a new router. My results aren't near as good a some but I'm happy at this point.

[computercowboy]

CC I have only seen one. I was just buzzing through web pages. I have kept my cost down to les than $2k including the sreen and a new router. My results aren't near as good a some but I'm happy at this point.

Getting way OT: the DIY PJ was one of the most rewarding projects I have ever done, even if I spent a lot of money and only used it for a few months I am still happy I did. I would love to build another but I am concerned that after using the commercial PJ that I have now I won't be able to enjoy a DIY pj again. With 3Chip DLP comming into the range of affordable now, and pocket LED projectors out there that can run on batteries it is hard to compete with what is available commercially. The thing you get from DIY is the joy of DIY. It isn't as much of a cost factor these days because the commercial PJs prices are dropping faster than ever. Then there is the ever present HDCP issue. Don't get me wrong I feel like a total sell out with the commercial projector and HDMI hookups but I love watching those HD-DVDs, I am getting a Blu Ray player also, should be here next week.

[freefall]

Back on topic :HD Fury has started shipping. There are a couple of preliminary reviews on curtpalme.com

[Cold Steel]

Seems like curtpalme is the place to purchase. I might order one yet.

lol. 3am and reading posts.

quote on curtpalme.
BLUE (HD15 VGA female to HD15 VGA male cable): Choose this if your display device has a standard female VGA connector and there is not enough space to connect the HDfury directly to your display device's VGA connector.


Shouldn't this be a DVI input?? It says DVI on other web sites.

This post has been edited by Cold Steel: Jun 8 2007, 07:09 AM

[computercowboy]

Seems like curtpalme is the place to purchase. I might order one yet.

lol. 3am and reading posts.

quote on curtpalme.
BLUE (HD15 VGA female to HD15 VGA male cable): Choose this if your display device has a standard female VGA connector and there is not enough space to connect the HDfury directly to your display device's VGA connector.
Shouldn't this be a DVI input?? It says DVI on other web sites.

no
it is dvi(hdcp) > vga
the point is to upgrade analog montiors to dvi/hdmi hdcp

This post has been edited by computercowboy: Jun 8 2007, 06:37 PM

[zx168]

great device, i just received it today and i can get 1080p from ps3 with game and bluray (tested with planet earth).

[freefall]

zx168 put it through the ringer and let us now how it works.